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In a U turn the government has given the go ahed to charge for unrecycled waste.
* Rubbish charging given go-ahead *
Councils in England are to be given powers to introduce controversial "pay-as-you-throw" charges.
Full story:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/-/1/hi/uk_politics/7067971.stm

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How are they going to stop people dumping into other people's bins after they have gone to work?

We recycle everything it is possible to recycle.

There was some silly woman on TV last night on about using up left over food including the stuff that kids leave on their plates! No way!!! I don't want to be invited out to tea and wonder if I'm eating something their 2 year old has been playing with the day before. :s_sick:

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Maybe they could charge for the bull**** that comes from the House Of Commons, ton for ton they should pay more than anybody else for waste removal

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Sounds to me like the government dont want to be the ones to look unfavourable by putting these charges in order , so have passed the buck .. Typical

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This is stupid, I recycle everything that I can recylce, but if its going to go off weight (which I presume it is, as I can't see the bin men looking in bins to check!) then how is it going to be policed?? Because I have a baby and go through a hell of a lot of nappies, and 3 cats whose litter is changed once or twice a week, now these are all very heavy items, so am I going to get charged (if it comes in obviously) because my non - recyclable rubbish is very heavy??

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I have to agree with Bonnyboy on this. There are loads of issues which will need to be ironed out before charging begins.

Me and Sparks re-cycle everything we can do. I only stick our wheelie out once a month and even then, it is only half full. I often end up with someone else's excess bags in my bin, which I don't mind about at the moment. If charging comes in, my bin will be out once every 2 months and I'll make sure it's chocker.....:D

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I would need my bin to be LOCKABLE - I live in a flat with open plan lawns around it - my bin is accessible to neighbours and all passing persons. It is impossible for me to secure it otherwise - I am up a flight of steps and have no outside shed.

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HBC will probably use it to fund the change of name! :D

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Hmmmm, ;) I wonder if we will get a Council Tax reduction if they start charging separately for rubbish removal?????? (Walks away whistling 'Wishful Thinking' ).

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Id like to know how they would impliment this.

Plans outlined earlier this year would be for households to get an annual discount of up to £50 or extra charges of up to £50 depending on rubbish not recycled. :confused:

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makes me wonder if they will go back to
weekly collections thats hbc
we may be allocated a bin bag of a certain colour
for a certain week if you want more you could
always buy them
to many foreseeable problems will arise im sure
many have been hit upon here already
wonder if hbc will take a peep at this post and take note :(

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Why should they charge by weight? Should it not be by volume? After all its the volume of waste that fills up landfill sites not its weight.

Then again at only £2 a week difference between full discount and maximum charge many people might decide to stop recycling altogether.

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Now we all know why the 'chips' were put in the bins to weigh the amount of rubbish we averaged over a period, I suppose they will start 'rooting' through it if the amount goes up and fine you according to the weight.
This was reported in an article in the Independant newspaper last year that trials were underway in some Home counties Borough's, Will the prudent re-cyclers be rewarded with Council Tax rebates and the lazy ones punished with fines? It was stated that no government in their right mind would bring such vote loosing legislation into force, now that Gordon Brown is not going to the 'country' it gives him a rather open licence to please himself in my opinion.

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I can remember Peter Britcliffe stating at an Area Council Meeting that Hyndburn will not charge extra for rubbish as it encourages fly tipping, a problem which we already have in Hyndburn.

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This is excellent news and the sooner the policy is implemented, the better. I make an effort to buy fresh food, from local outlets with minumum packaging; thus my wheelie is rarely more than a quarter full. Why, then should I pay the same rates as my obese neighbours, gorging on junk food and stuffing their bins to overflowing with excess packaging, waste rat fodder and any other crap they so gleefully waste?

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Now it seems Peter Britcliffe has little or no choice in the matter if/when this goes through the 'Commons'. The alternative is facing nuge fines from Central Government, it will be interesting to see what HE decides.

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I read that if this system was introduced we would all be issued with lockable bins.

Let's home that before we get it in Hyndburn they decide what crest we are going to have on our bins. The current Hyndburn logo, the Accrington and Districts logo, or each specific town's coat of arms.

We could end up with three new bins if it's not done at the right time, and all those unused bins, with the wrong logos on, will be a ****** to recycle.:D

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Surely all the money they spend on bins and locks would be better spent on just dumping it all in a big shed and employing people to sort it out.

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i wonder how much those common keys will be sold for on ebay :D

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It will lead to more fly tipping, or people burning their rubbish in their garden, whilst your washing's out on the line next door.

We should be encouraged to recycle.

Perhaps a better idea would be that the bin men should go through your wheelie bin, and post through your letter box anything that should have been recycled.:D

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Now where are they going to get the energy to perform an extra task like that Gary, They don't even pick anything up they drop or a bag left at the side, cardboard 'shall' be tied with string and not taped then wedged between wheely bins. How do you do that if you only have one bin?

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We left ours out and they didn't take it. On ringing the refuse offices we were told it had to be tied together.

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I would think the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing as per usual with HBC!!!

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I know a lot of you have trouble with the people who collect our waste/recycling, but the people who take mine away are excellent. There's even someone who comes round the next day, sweeping up anything that may have blown away. I think there must be different teams for the various parts of Hyndburn.

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I think you are all moaning about the refuse collectors when really it is only a small percentage of them at fault. I don't see them leaving things behind around here. It is also rare to see any mess afterwards. The day after we usually have the little road sweeper round making sure the place is nice and tidy.

You will probably find that most of the mess is caused by the householders with overflowing bins etc.

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Ok so next time I will read all the post before I post :D:D:D

Maybe we just have a better class of bin man up Ossy. :rolleyes:

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I wonder if Rindy & Neil's binmen are extra careful and helpful because they work within our glorious leader's own area. I can assure you that the binmen here in Peel & Milnshaw aren't quite as tidy.. However, I have never once had to tie my cardboard with string. I suppose I should be thankful for small mercys. :D

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Question time: What happens to the garbage after it is collected. I realize that space is at a premium in England; so, does the garbage go to landfills? Or is there some other way of getting rid of it? As an aside: in Kingston, each household is allowed to put out two garbage bags for the weekly collection (blue and grey boxes are picked up the same day). A third bag requires a tag, which can be bought at many local outlets. I do believe it costs a buck.

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As far as I am aware the stuff we can't recycle will go to a landfill site. That's what will go in our wheelie bins. We also have a white bag for paper, a blue bag for tins and plastic bottles, a blue box for glass (bottles, jars etc.)

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Well if it come,s to that they would charge you for your rubbish a lot of people will fly tipping and then what will the back street,s be like.

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In Darwen we do it a bit differently. Well round our end we do. We have a grey bin (it is almost black but they insist on calling it grey) for stuff that can’t be re-cycled. We have a brown bin for garden waste. A green box without a lid for glass, metal and plastic bottles and a blue box with lid for paper. The paper is supposed to stand to attention in its box.

My black bin is an oddity in that it is larger than the standard so it only goes out once every two months. My brown bin protects my milk on the doorstep from passing eyes until I get up and bring it in. The blue box sits on top of my fridge (the only place in the whole flat) and washed and peeled cans and bottles get dropped in until it is full – about 6 weeks. The green bin never gets used, because I could never get the paper to stand to attention unless it was full. In any case there was no clear floor space to put it. So it lives on top of a kitchen cupboard out of the way and out of reach. It could make a pretty neat flower container with a few more holes drilled in the bottom. Instead I have a sack for waste paper and when it is full I take it to the local waste disposal place with a small detour whilst collecting my pension.

Any rubbish that can’t be re-cycled gets put into one of the many carrier bags that supermarkets give out and with the handles tied together to prevent stuff from spilling out, it gets dumped in my black (grey) bin.

Someone asked earlier on about who owns the bins/boxes. The local authority does but you the keeper is obliged to keep them clean and safe. Much like a council house. If someone nicks your bin you might be lucky and get another for free or you might get charged for it. However if you tell them that it went missing on the day of a collection whilst it was out in the street you will get it replaced for nothing.

Someone also mentioned something about if we are to be charged for rubbish that cannot be re-cycled will the council tax be reduced to compensate. Probably but you can bet your sweet life you end up paying more overall. Then there is the problem of those people like myself whose council tax is paid by the council/government. We won’t benefit from a council tax reduction, so in my view we shouldn’t be charged either.

It’s a whole can of worms or should that be a wheelie bin full of worms?