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Acrylic-bob 17-11-2007 16:24

Memorial tattooist?
 
In times gone by, when a person was particularly affected by the death of someone close, the options for expressing grief were fairly limited. The run of the mill expressions were flowers, monuments, or memorial benches. If funds ran to it the bereaved could also endow Universities or religious organisations. The Victorians kept lockets of artfully arranged strands of hair from the dear departed or had mourning jewellery made. but in most cases the grief was something personal and private and most people had sufficient taste not to wear their grief on their sleeves (Queen Victoria notwithstanding) for too long.

In the twenty-first century it seems things have changed, personal grief is now it seems to be used as another springboard for those clamouring to be noticed.

This from the Observer...

Niece’s tattoo tribute to tragic Dave - News - Accrington Observer

Of course what this gormless creature decides to do with her body is entirely up to her, but I cannot help thinking that there is something creepy and icky about it.

garinda 17-11-2007 16:37

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Horses for courses.

Tattoos fascinate me, though I'd never have one. They're just too permanent...and I'm just too fickle.

How on earth having this self penned tribute on her back is going to make her grief any easier, is beyond me, but if it does, good luck to her.

It did make me smile when she said just having her late uncle's initals on her neck 'looked a bit bare'.

Though as she gets older, she must face the fact that the last verse will eventually slip below the Plimsoll line.

Margaret Pilkington 17-11-2007 16:38

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I don't like tattoos of any description. And, this girl may have held genuine affection for her uncle, but I am sure he would not have wanted her to deface her body in such a way.......I'm sure there are other things that would have expressed her feelings far better than this.

garinda 17-11-2007 16:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 494924)
I don't like tattoos of any description. And, this girl may have held genuine affection for her uncle, but I am sure he would not have wanted her to deface her body in such a way.......I'm sure there are other things that would have expressed her feelings far better than this.


Personally I'd have used the money to treat a third world child to have their cataracts removed. The gift of sight, a much more fitting tribute.

West Ender 17-11-2007 17:14

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I wonder what the poem's like. :rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 17-11-2007 17:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 494932)
Personally I'd have used the money to treat a third world child to have their cataracts removed. The gift of sight, a much more fitting tribute.

Yes, that would have been a much better way of having her uncle remembered.

BERNADETTE 17-11-2007 17:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 494954)
I wonder what the poem's like. :rolleyes:

Here it is.
It's hard to come to terms whan you lose somone you love
Someone so truly amazing you can never see them enough
Although you've gone forever, forever is such a short time
Because we will meet again somewhere down the line

I'll wait for that moment and thank every passing second
Because it means I'll be closer to meeting you in heaven
You enjoyed your life to the fullest and passed doing something you love
We shall all carry on with our lives knowing your watching over us>

West Ender 17-11-2007 18:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 494962)
Here it is.
It's hard to come to terms whan you lose somone you love
Someone so truly amazing you can never see them enough
Although you've gone forever, forever is such a short time
Because we will meet again somewhere down the line

I'll wait for that moment and thank every passing second
Because it means I'll be closer to meeting you in heaven
You enjoyed your life to the fullest and passed doing something you love
We shall all carry on with our lives knowing your watching over us>


Erm......right.

The sentiment and the action seem to be a bit excessive for a niece/uncle relationship, or is it just me?

Yolanda25 17-11-2007 18:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 494972)
Erm......right.

The sentiment and the action seem to be a bit excessive for a niece/uncle relationship, or is it just me?

You never know though some people grow up close to a member of the family sometimes:o

Margaret Pilkington 17-11-2007 18:23

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I was very close to my father but would never dream of having something dedicated to him tattoed on any part of my anatomy.
I would rather remember him in some other way.

MargaretR 17-11-2007 18:36

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It's on her back so she can't read it unless she uses a mirror and then it will be wrong way round - can't understand her reasoning :confused:

Yolanda25 17-11-2007 18:39

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well, i guess is the way she has of grieving, every person is different

Eric 17-11-2007 19:31

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I don't know if this is right for everyone ... people want to remember loved ones in different ways. I lost a very special dog in May of 2004; and I have her protrait tatooed on my arm with the legend "Best Friend" and her name "Hera." I am very comfortable with this. Now she will always be with me in a physical sense, as well as in memory.

BERNADETTE 17-11-2007 19:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 494972)
Erm......right.

The sentiment and the action seem to be a bit excessive for a niece/uncle relationship, or is it just me?

I also think it is to much but who are we to judge?

Margaret Pilkington 17-11-2007 19:47

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Yes, you are right Bernie, we shouldn't judge.

Yolanda25 17-11-2007 19:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 495056)
Yes, you are right Bernie, we shouldn't judge.

u not judging neither am i, im just giving my opinion, thats why we are in the forum

garinda 17-11-2007 19:56

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It's up to her what she does to her body, but I wonder why she went to the papers?

Without the Observer being informed, nobody would be none the wiser, as to what's on her back.

BERNADETTE 17-11-2007 20:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yolanda25 (Post 495057)
u not judging neither am i, im just giving my opinion, thats why we are in the forum

Nobody said you were judging:confused:

WillowTheWhisp 17-11-2007 20:29

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She may live to regret it someday - like on her honeymoon.

Yolanda25 17-11-2007 20:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 495074)
Nobody said you were judging:confused:

I know , i was just saying :D

Lilly 17-11-2007 20:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 494962)
Here it is.
It's hard to come to terms whan you lose somone you love
Someone so truly amazing you can never see them enough
Although you've gone forever, forever is such a short time
Because we will meet again somewhere down the line

I'll wait for that moment and thank every passing second
Because it means I'll be closer to meeting you in heaven
You enjoyed your life to the fullest and passed doing something you love
We shall all carry on with our lives knowing your watching over us>

It's a bit of a long spiel for a tattoo. It must go all the way from her shoulders to her bum! :eek:

Unless the writing is very small.

BERNADETTE 17-11-2007 20:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yolanda25 (Post 495085)
I know , i was just saying :D

Okay.......:p

West Ender 17-11-2007 20:54

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It's a good job she didn't go for Gray's "Elegy" or it would have reached her ankles. ;)

Sorry, I can't take this seriously. I could, perhaps, understand a picture of the deceased but this is just weird and the poem is ......... no, I'm too polite to say.

Yep - I'm judging again! :eek:

BERNADETTE 17-11-2007 20:59

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I think I know where your coming from!!!

cashman 17-11-2007 23:28

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well grief is a terrible thing,and everyone has there own way of dealing with it, some hit the drink big time, affecting others, summat like that tattoo aint my bag,the lass may well regret it in years to come,but its her way of dealing with things, if it aint ours so what?

slinky 17-11-2007 23:30

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As long as she isn't holding me down to tattoo it on my back, I don't give 2 hoots what she does with her own body!

BERNADETTE 17-11-2007 23:50

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We all know that grief affects people in different ways and having a tattoo done is her way but why the need to broadcast it??

Bonnyboy 17-11-2007 23:52

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If the girl deals with her grief in that manner, it’s her choice. Grief is generally a very private emotion and as pondered by garinda , earlier in this thread, what’s the motive for contacting the Observer ?

cashman 18-11-2007 00:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 495213)
If the girl deals with her grief in that manner, it’s her choice. Grief is generally a very private emotion and as pondered by garinda , earlier in this thread, what’s the motive for contacting the Observer ?

its certainly an odd thing to me, but that thought never entered my head,cos does it really matter?what i mean is some like to talk to all and sundry about it, some will not talk/dont want it mentioned, theres no right or wrong with it,

steeljack 18-11-2007 00:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 494989)
It's on her back so she can't read it unless she uses a mirror and then it will be wrong way round - can't understand her reasoning :confused:

If she use two mirrors , the one behind her will reflect the opposite image to the front mirror and she should be able to read it that way ( its an old trick used by the porn industry for up close camera shots from difficult angles) :D ;)

slinky 18-11-2007 00:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 495220)
If she use two mirrors , the one behind her will reflect the opposite image to the front mirror and she should be able to read it that way ( its an old trick used by the porn industry for up close camera shots from difficult angles) :D ;)

:eek::eek: and you know this because ........................?? :D

Bonnyboy 18-11-2007 00:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 495214)
its certainly an odd thing to me, but that thought never entered my head,cos does it really matter?what i mean is some like to talk to all and sundry about it, some will not talk/dont want it mentioned, theres no right or wrong with it,

I just thought it odd, but then we all deal with things in a different way. There is no right or wrong way to deal with grief as you say. Does it really matter ? I dont think so really, if the girl gets some solace from it all well and good. :)

steeljack 18-11-2007 00:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slinky (Post 495221)
:eek::eek: and you know this because ........................?? :D

think National Geographic or the discovery channel did a program on filming inside difficult to access places ........;) ;) :cool: ....I'm pleading the fifth on this ..:D

garinda 18-11-2007 00:31

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Just a thought.

When you lose someone you love, it's really hard to understand that the world is going on as normal all around you, and after all the fuss and inital sympathy has died down, it seems like everyone but you has forgotten the deceased. Perhaps that's why she decided to share what she's done, by going to the press.

slinky 18-11-2007 00:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 495224)
think National Geographic or the discovery channel did a program on filming inside difficult to access places ........;) ;) :cool: ....I'm pleading the fifth on this ..:D


Tut TUT :p:D

steeljack 18-11-2007 00:41

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I suppose it could used as a sort of quality control test for prospective husbands to find out how literate they are :rolleyes: ;) ;)

Ianto.W. 18-11-2007 17:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 495097)
It's a good job she didn't go for Gray's "Elegy" or it would have reached her ankles. ;)

Sorry, I can't take this seriously. I could, perhaps, understand a picture of the deceased but this is just weird and the poem is ......... no, I'm too polite to say.

Yep - I'm judging again! :eek:

Does it start like this; Curfew tolls the knell of parting day?

West Ender 18-11-2007 19:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianto.W. (Post 495389)
Does it start like this; Curfew tolls the knell of parting day?


Yes, it does and there are about 12 verses. ;)

MargaretR 18-11-2007 19:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 495418)
Yes, it does and there are about 12 verses. ;)

It gives new dimension to 'book at bedtime' - what will her future husband make of it? - better that she lies on her back ALWAYS ;)

Eric 18-11-2007 19:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 495224)
think National Geographic or the discovery channel did a program on filming inside difficult to access places ........;) ;) :cool: ....I'm pleading the fifth on this ..:D

A little late for the fifth when you have already incrimiated yourself:D

emamum 18-11-2007 20:01

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she obviously loved him and she wanted a permanent reminder of him.... if it makes her feel better about losing him, who are we to judge... she isnt forcing anyone else to have one or for any one to look at it.... its her choice.
i dont have any tattoos but i have been thinking about it and if i do, it will be my choice! i say good for her, if it helps

BERNADETTE 18-11-2007 20:14

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I don't think people are judging as such Em just wondering why it had to be broadcast. Think most of us see grief as a very personal thing. So yes if a tatto makes you feel better then have one but why the need to put it in the local paper???

emamum 18-11-2007 20:16

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maybe it was her way of making sure he was remembered?

BERNADETTE 18-11-2007 20:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 495475)
maybe it was her way of making sure he was remembered?

I really don't think people are going to forget him whether she tells the paper about the tattoo or not:confused:

emamum 18-11-2007 20:25

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but we are all speaking about the tattoo, which is about her uncle so we are kind of passing on the memory of her uncle???? if that makes sense lol

BERNADETTE 18-11-2007 20:31

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It does make sense but if she hadn't told about it we wouldn't know about it!!

emamum 18-11-2007 20:32

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which is why she did tell us... so we could pass it on.....

West Ender 18-11-2007 20:34

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She could have had a permanent memorial to her uncle by putting up a plaque or paying for a memorial bench somewhere. This is all about drawing attention to herself, not him.

emamum 18-11-2007 20:36

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but a public memorial would have been graffiti'd thanx to the very respectful people that like doing these thing for a laugh! that can be just as upsetting as when they die!

West Ender 18-11-2007 20:51

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I said permanent, not public. Think about it, in a few years when she walks along with her back exposed (hopefully not in Winter) few people are going to have a clue who the poem is about. They will, however, look at the tattoo, so who's going to be centre stage? Who will be the one being noticed? Not the uncle.

emamum 18-11-2007 20:52

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that is a permanent tribute.... any way people have different views.. can we agree to disagree about this one?

West Ender 18-11-2007 21:00

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Of course we can. We all have our own slant on life and it would be a dull old world if we didn't. :)

Eric 19-11-2007 07:14

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There was a young lady from Ossy

Who tatooed a poem on her body

This literary lass

Had rhymes on her a**

And metaphors, none of them shoddy.

I don't like the last line ... but it came off the top of my head, like my hair is doing. Someone help me out.


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