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Jae Swift 26-11-2007 09:23

Elderly Beware!
 
The con: Elderly folk beware! Scammers are posing as your grandchildren to get money from you!

How it works: According to Consumeraffairs.com, the grandparents scam usually works like this:

You receive a phone call from someone who greets you with, "Hi Grandma."

"Hi."

"Do you know who this is?"

"Jeremy?"

"Yeah!"

Without knowing it, you just made a mistake. Instead of saying, "No, I don't know who this is," you supplied the scammer with the name of a grandchild. He then proceeds to impersonate that grandchild.

The "grandchild" claims he's gotten into some kind of trouble -- auto accident, overdue rent, minor brush with the law -- and needs money to fix the situation. "Can you please help? But don't tell mum. She'd kill me if she found out!"

This may seem like an obvious scam, but it's fooled plenty of people -- mostly because the scammers are good at what they do. They choose their targets carefully, tug on the heartstrings, and keep other family members "out of the loop" until it's too late.

One scammer "victimized dozens of seniors and found his victims by scanning the phone book for old-fashioned sounding names. One of his victims, an 86-year-old grandmother, even had to use a walker in order to get to her bank and withdraw money for him."

The scammers are cunning -- one couple could have sworn the guy REALLY was their grandson.

Recommendation: There's one easy way to expose the fraud: DO NOT fill in any "blanks" for the scammer. For example:

"Do you know who this is?"

"No, I don't. Who is this?"

"It's your granddaughter."

"Really? Which one?"

Most likely, the next sound you hear will be a click, followed by a dial tone.

That's the easiest way not to fall for the grandparents scam.

West Ender 26-11-2007 11:49

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Don't these people know the sound of their own grandchildren's voices or have they so many they've lost count? I've only got 2. The 8 year old lives with me and the 22 year old, on the very rare occasions he rings me, invariably mumbles, "Hi Nan it's Pete." Mind you, if he does ring, it's likely to be near Christmas or his birthday so he probably is hoping for a handout, being a student. Ah well, I'm not elderly - just slightly past my sell-by date.

beechy 26-11-2007 12:42

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must agree west ender grand childer seldom ring unless made to by their parents and the surely we know there voices
but if they choose the wrong name surely the scams finished :confused:

BERNADETTE 26-11-2007 12:45

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An older person might not recognise the voice especially if they are getting confused.

entwisi 26-11-2007 12:46

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just how are they gettiong cash over teh phone? Surely if they are posting cash etc they know their Gchilds addresses?

The fact it says "auto-accident" means Jae has likely copied this verbatim from a merkin site. Its also likely to be an urban myth but ICBA to google

grannyclaret 26-11-2007 14:37

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Erm thanks for that one. Its good to be aware ,,My grandchildren live in Burnley ,but i think if they neaded money they would not ask ,,,although their granddad is an easy touch,,,,,:):):).their mum pobably WOULD go mad if she thought they couldent ask her,,,,"what next."..:rolleyes:

WillowTheWhisp 26-11-2007 17:01

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Voices sometimes sound different on the phone. It does seem unlikely that they actually get the money without the grandparent cottoning on though.

nikkival 26-11-2007 17:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 497988)
just how are they gettiong cash over teh phone? Surely if they are posting cash etc they know their Gchilds addresses?

I wondered the exact same thing so I had a look at the consumeraffairs.com website that the post was taken from. The scam took place in America last year and the money was 'wired' to the fake grandchildren who obtained false ID's to cash in the money.

The full story can be found here - "Grandparents Scam" Exposed

lancsdave 26-11-2007 17:28

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I just hope if I'm ever that senile my family put me in a home first :rolleyes:

BERNADETTE 26-11-2007 17:32

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People like the scammers don't deserve to breath the same air as decent human beings. They are the scum of the earth!!

cashman 26-11-2007 19:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 498079)
I just hope if I'm ever that senile my family put me in a home first :rolleyes:

i'l ring around tomoz dave dont worry about em fogetting.:p

Margaret Pilkington 26-11-2007 19:45

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If anyone calls me and calls me that G word i will spit in their eye and bugblind them........everyone, but everyone who knows me knows that I do not answer to that term of endearment.

cashman 26-11-2007 19:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 498146)
If anyone calls me and calls me that G word i will spit in their eye and bugblind them........everyone, but everyone who knows me knows that I do not answer to that term of endearment.

can understand ya not wanting to be called GARINDA, margaret.;):rofl38:;)

lancsdave 26-11-2007 19:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 498141)
i'l ring around tomoz dave dont worry about em fogetting.:p

I might get a room next to yours :p

entwisi 27-11-2007 06:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nikkival (Post 498076)
I wondered the exact same thing so I had a look at the consumeraffairs.com website that the post was taken from. The scam took place in America last year and the money was 'wired' to the fake grandchildren who obtained false ID's to cash in the money.

So quite simply how many grandparents would 'wire' money . By this we mean use of things like Western Union. I mean its very name is now synonymous with scammers. You send cash to someone who can be anywhere in teh world and have no control over who picks it up (In these days of fake Ids or a dodgy cashier its not exactly hard to do).

I actually nearly wet myself a couple of years ago as I was watching African Cup of Nations football and teh match of Nigeria(spiritual home of the scammer) vs someone else was sponsored by WU.

Margaret Pilkington 27-11-2007 16:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 498151)
can understand ya not wanting to be called GARINDA, margaret.;):rofl38:;)

I would prefer to be called Garinda to that other G word.:D

jackyalex 27-11-2007 20:15

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[quote=Jae Swift;497927]

One scammer "victimized dozens of seniors and found his victims by scanning the phone book for old-fashioned sounding names.


i thought only your initial of your first name was used in the phonebook? how can you get an old fashion name from an initial

West Ender 27-11-2007 20:56

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[quote=jackyalex;498434]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jae Swift (Post 497927)

One scammer "victimized dozens of seniors and found his victims by scanning the phone book for old-fashioned sounding names.


i thought only your initial of your first name was used in the phonebook? how can you get an old fashion name from an initial



You can have the entry the way you want it, in this country anyway. My dad always had his full first name in the book.

What I wonder is, what's an old-fashioned sounding name? A lot of the old names have become popular again over the last 30 years.

Eric 28-11-2007 17:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 498369)
I would prefer to be called Garinda to that other G word.:D

What is the G word? I know the F word the B word the C word the other C word the M word and lots of others, but no G word.:confused:

BERNADETTE 28-11-2007 18:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 498607)
What is the G word? I know the F word the B word the C word the other C word the M word and lots of others, but no G word.:confused:

GRANDMA......

Eric 28-11-2007 19:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 498614)
GRANDMA......

And how did that get past the censorious mods! Wash your mouth out, or at least your fingers:eek:

West Ender 28-11-2007 19:40

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My grandchildren call me Nana, mainly because I was only 42 when my grandson was born and grandma seemed a bit "old". Now I'm in my 60s I couldn't care less if they decided to change it to grandma. I'm a grandmother and a rose by any name.............etc. ;)

MITZY 28-11-2007 19:43

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I hate the name nana, sounds too much like Nanny and no way am I being a goat.but each to his/her own preference.

West Ender 28-11-2007 19:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MITZY (Post 498644)
I hate the name nana, sounds too much like Nanny and no way am I being a goat.but each to his/her own preference.

Especially if you have kids. :D

MITZY 28-11-2007 19:46

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good job I have children then, or monsters as they sometimes are..............

BERNADETTE 28-11-2007 19:48

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I'm grandma but only because my mum is nan. I'm not really fussed either way, I've been called a lot worse over the years:D


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