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Ianto.W.

29-11-2007 07:55

Flouride In Fizzy Drinks.

Just read this sggestion in the lancashire telegraph letter page, make fizzy soft drinks makers putflouride in the teeth, decaying drinks, instead of taking it out as they do. We that have no need, or desire this poison in our system can be spared the lousy taste.

emamum

29-11-2007 08:47

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but what about the children that drink nothing but fizzy drinks...there is evidence that it is dangerous The Flouride Debate | Welcome to the Discussion...

MargaretR

29-11-2007 11:59

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Fluoride: Wide Range of Serious Health Problems
I agree with Ian - fluoride is poison
What was once thought to be a low safe dose now isn't
Re-examination of acute toxicity of fluoride

BERNADETTE

29-11-2007 12:57

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 498793)

but what about the children that drink nothing but fizzy drinks...there is evidence that it is dangerous The Flouride Debate | Welcome to the Discussion...

Come on Em no child should be drinking nothing but fizzy drinks in fact the amount they do drink should be kept to a bare minimum. There are so many additives in these drinks they have a detrimental effect on childrens behaviour in many instances.:(

emamum

29-11-2007 13:08

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that is my opinion too but some parents will give them to trhier childre

MargaretR

29-11-2007 13:11

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Here is a site which lists fizzy drinks and what is in them
| Interactive fizzy drink ingredients | Fizzy Interactive | Spaghoops.com |

BERNADETTE

29-11-2007 13:43

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 498841)

that is my opinion too but some parents will give them to trhier childre

You are one of the sensible ones, none of my grandchildren are allowed fizzy drinks(thank goodness):)

emamum

29-11-2007 14:07

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my lad has no added sugar robinsons, water or milk....

mallard

29-11-2007 14:45

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It won,t stop them drinking pop and everthing else children will do there own thing when they go in to the shop,s on there own.

emamum

29-11-2007 15:00

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my lad knows he is not allowed them, he doesnt drink them when i am not there.. there was a parent in a magasine recently that gave it 2 her baby in a bottle.. some parents either dont care or dont know.. i have worked in nurseries where the 3/4 year olds have rotten teeth.

WillowTheWhisp

29-11-2007 16:17

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 498850)

my lad has no added sugar robinsons, water or milk....

It may be no added sugar but what about the rest of the additives? Does it have artificial sweetener? If it has aspartame that's worse than sugar.

We don't need yet more additives in our food ad drinks.

emamum

29-11-2007 16:40

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he drinks that because he likes juice sometimes and diluted pure juice gives him the runs....he eats home made food, not processed and i little bit isnt gunna harm him

jambutty

30-11-2007 13:08

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ON NO ACCOUNT WHATSOEVER should we allow the addition of medication into our drinking water or to bottled drinks. Because that’s what fluoride is – a medication. What will be next? A tranquilliser because the populace has finally twigged that the government is continually selling us down the river and start to revolt.

I don’t care if it is for the good of children’s teeth. It is the parent’s responsibility what their kids eat and drink and to clean their teeth twice a day. If the state wants to interfere – again – in our daily lives then make fluoride toothpaste free as part of the Child Benefit or whatever it is called these days.

emamum

30-11-2007 19:42

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if it was given with child benefit then it would have to be vouchers and, just like milk tokens, these can be sold...... milk tokens came in strips of four that could be sold for £1.50 each, making £6 which will buy a packet of cigarettes or cans of lager...

jambutty

30-11-2007 20:42

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 499174)

So that is enough reason to put fluoride in the water/drinks just because a few parents sell their tokens?

I’m pretty sure that the greater majority of parents would prefer to receive a token for a fluoride toothpaste of their choice rather than being force fed with fluoride.

There are hundreds of thousands of people in this country who have a full set of false teeth. What good will fluoride do them? I hasten to add that I am not one of them.

emamum

30-11-2007 20:47

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i am saying that the children that needed it the most would be the ones that didnt get it

BERNADETTE

30-11-2007 20:49

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 499204)

i am saying that the children that needed it the most would be the ones that didnt get it

That's the way of the world unfortunately:(

WillowTheWhisp

30-11-2007 21:55

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And now the ones who would be most better off without it are going to be force fed it.

BERNADETTE

30-11-2007 21:58

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 499236)

And now the ones who would be most better off without it are going to be force fed it.

Can you taste it in your water Willow? Ian keeps complaining but don't know if it's just his tastebuds:confused:

jambutty

30-11-2007 22:11

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As far as I know United Utilities do not put fluoride in the water.

If I remember correctly the government chickened out on this issue and left it to the various water companies whether to add fluoride or not. But it had to be with the approval of their customers.

blazey

30-11-2007 22:12

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Why on earth would they put fluoride in drinks? How would they be able to ensure children dont have too much intake of it and do damage to themselves?

Its bad enough that there is loads of rubbish in the drinks already being covered up by advertising saying its 'good' for children. Yeh it might be good that its making them drink plenty of water, but theyre also getting children to drink chemicals and crap that isnt necessary.

I have got to say that this idea has clearly not been given much thought and if they implement it then its just blatantly irresponsible.

Bonnyboy

30-11-2007 22:48

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It looks like Big Brother has been taking care of the nations fluoride needs in our drinking water for some time. I don’t really see the need to have it added to fizzy drinks. Apparently our intake is monitored in any event.

United Utilities

BERNADETTE

30-11-2007 22:54

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 499266)

So they don't add any to ours? Or am I reading tht wrong:confused:

MargaretR

30-11-2007 22:57

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It is very easy to install your own water filter system with its own tap on the sink
Water Gem - made by Aquacure of Southport

blazey

30-11-2007 22:58

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 499267)

So they don't add any to ours? Or am I reading tht wrong:confused:

As far as I am aware they add it to different water supplies around the country. I know dentists used to prescribe the fluoride tablets to children round here so i'm guessing it isnt added to our water supply.

Does it have anything to do with 'soft' and 'hard' water does anyone know?

Bonnyboy

30-11-2007 23:02

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 499267)

So they don't add any to ours? Or am I reading tht wrong:confused:

I'm assuming that the levels in each area are monitored and adjusted accordingly to suit any deficiencies "at the request of the Strategic Health Authority" :confused:

BERNADETTE

30-11-2007 23:31

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 499273)

I'm assuming that the levels in each area are monitored and adjusted accordingly to suit any deficiencies "at the request of the Strategic Health Authority" :confused:

Was just wondering!!:confused: I'm still no wiser really:p

MargaretR

03-02-2008 09:32

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:mad:I have resurrected this thread because today the Times published this

Minister orders fluoride to be added to water - Times Online
ALAN JOHNSON, the health secretary, will this week tell health chiefs in areas of England with the highest rates of tooth decay to add fluoride to the water supply to improve the dental health of poor children

I wish they would stop meddling with what goes down our throats:mad:

jambutty

03-02-2008 11:09

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 526103)

I have not changed my view since my last post on this issue so there is no point in repeating it again.

However I wonder if anyone else whose views are the same as mine actually bothered to make those views known to the minister responsible and their own MP. Or is it too much of a bother and in any case leave it to someone else.

Alan Johnson the MP for Hull West has a web site at http://www.alanjohnson.org/ and there is a contact form. It couldn’t be easier to make your views on the Fluoride issue known to the minister responsible for this latest government interference in our lives.

If I knew how I would launch a petition on the Downing Street web site. Maybe we could do it together?

On the squillion to one chance that Johnson will read this thread let me make it quite clear to him and to anyone else with similar ideas.

NO FLUORIDE ADDED TO FOOD, DRINKS AND WATER.

SPUGGIE J

03-02-2008 11:27

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Spug says add bromide to all the drinks teenagers drink - cut down on pregnancy rate

This is jen by the way - spugs walking around....in a daze

jambutty

03-02-2008 11:53

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I have used the contact from and sent the following:

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On no account should fluoride or any other medication be added to the food that we eat and the fluids that we drink just because a few children have bad teeth.

First of all have you considered that some 90% of the water produced by the water companies doesn’t even go down the throats of the population? It is flushed down the toilet, the sink or bath and used by industry. Not forgetting the trillions of gallons that are wasted in leaks. I do not have access to any figures but I would hazard a guess that barely 5% of the water would be drunk. In fact you are knowingly wasting 95% of public funds in this crackpot idea.

Secondly, for at least half of the population, the added Fluoride will have no effect on their teeth. Mainly because most of them do not have natural teeth. I am nearly 71 years of age and I have 90% of my teeth in good working order. Why? Because as a child and during the whole of my life I have brushed my teeth at least once a day. And today I use a toothpaste that contains Fluoride and have done ever since that type of toothpaste became available. As a child I drank milk and during the war we were given calcium tablets.

Thirdly and equally as important, adding a medication to the water supply establishes a precedence. What next - the addition of some tranquilliser because Joe Public starts to think for himself and creates political waves.

Fourthly, I am one of millions who has to take medication on a daily basis, has anyone done any research on what the effect of Fluoride in the water would have when mixed with other medicines?

If you are so all fired concerned about the nations teeth, then target the children with bad teeth and not the nation as a whole. Or is this yet another labour minister ploy in trying to use the public to gain yourself some political Brownie points?

Targeting children is the answer and this could be done by issuing each family with a “Dental Certificate”. This would entitle them to receive FREE, either from their local chemist or Health Centre, a toothbrush and a tube of Fluoride toothpaste upon production of the certificate. A new toothbrush or tube of toothpaste would be issued on the production of the spent item and of course the certificate. Thus the system would be very difficult to abuse.

Let me make it quite clear:
NO FLUORIDE ADDED TO FOOD, DRINKS AND WATER.

If your crackpot idea does come to fruition then you can rest assured that Janet Anderson, my MP, WILL NOT get my vote next time round nor will the Labour Councillor in my ward.

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