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thomas.lee 01-12-2007 02:24

Teen & Child Hit With Firework.. (Accrington Observer)
 
Well I must say, how pathetic. Really annoys me, some people are just there to moan moan moan. If theres something to complain about these days, you bet it'll be complained about.

ORANGE DUST on a girls coat & jumper!? How very sympathetic I am. :confused: Have some people just got nothing better to do with their time than moan to the Observer, complaining that a firework gone wrong resulted in their child's coat being showered with orange dust? I mean cmon'.. its pathetic. As for the girl who was 'hit on the head' and astonishingly gave her a headache, yet no external visible injuries.. what a coincidence.

So the families of both are now calling for extra safety measures, which basically means if they take their cases further, future Christmas Lights Firework Displays at Accrington will no longer be.. its bound to happen, someone moans, and due to 'health & safety' they will cancel them in future. :mad:

Another thing to consider, we cannot blame someone for a 'stray' firework.. no-one can control what a firework is going to do or where it is going to go once it is fired in the air.. with all the safety measures there could possibly be, something could still go wrong! All I have to say, is if you're visiting a public firework display, you do so with the knowledge & understanding that as these 'explosives' are being fired into the air, something could go wrong! So therefore you watch at your own risk! Only makes sense!

Benipete 01-12-2007 02:30

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Just happy that we have so much money we can set fire to It

Jae Swift 01-12-2007 07:35

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LOL, she lives at bottom of my street LOL

blazey 01-12-2007 13:25

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Samantha was in my history class at college last year. She was a bit of a moaner but I think they have a good point about the safety issue. What if it had blown up in her or the little girls face?

People might refer to them as moaners, but if it had hit you or your child in the face I can ensure that you would kick up a fuss about it, even if it was luckily just orange dust and small marks.

They wont get rid of the firework display, because I assume it brings money to the town and looks good for the council and whatever to have all the activities going on, and they wouldnt want to lose everyone to Blackburns switch on.

accytrader 01-12-2007 14:03

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I agree with you. I bet compensation has crossed her mind. Whilst on the subject of the Accy Observer there is another brilliant letter on the letters page. Someone is explaining how Accrington's shopkeepers can increase their trade by having shop dorways big enough to fit double buggys in. In my experience the people who push double buggys about are the last people you want in your shop. I estimate it would cost me £3000 to convert my shop. How many packets of fags and cans of 8 Ace would I have to sell to recoup that.

lancsdave 01-12-2007 14:07

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They said they were stood outside B&M Bargains. Was that an official viewing point because the police seemed to have closed the street off at it's junction with Broadway at the other end. Suprised they let anyone stand down there ?

MargaretR 01-12-2007 14:14

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Double buggies are a fairly recent invention.
Who has 2 children at one time both incapable of walking
unless they are twins?

AccyMad 01-12-2007 14:17

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We usually stand on Whalley Road opposite the vets, there's a good view but you're usually far enough away not to get any debris flying at you although last year cos it was really windy, even that far away there were bits of charred paper & sparks flying around - as someone has already said you just have to be aware that things like this can happen & be as careful as you can. (That said I watched them, from the warmth & safety of my own doorway). Really don't think they should have made such a fuss over it.

blazey 01-12-2007 14:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 499405)
Double buggies are a fairly recent invention.
Who has 2 children at one time both incapable of walking
unless they are twins?

a toddler of upto 3 would still require its hand held or baby reins, so a double buggy is appropriate in quite alot of circumstances.

MargaretR 01-12-2007 14:22

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 499411)
a toddler of upto 3 would still require its hand held or baby reins, so a double buggy is appropriate in quite alot of circumstances.

At the age of 3 -I was in school -- not nursery school --full time school!!!!

derekgas 01-12-2007 15:24

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If attending a firework and bonfire display, surely the recommended attire would be wellies, a wax coat and a hat, a bit of ornge dust would do no harm to these, or am I wrong in assuming that the people concerned went with light coloured clothes, which are quite likely to get dirty!

Speedy 01-12-2007 15:44

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Like someone else has said, you go to these events knowing that something can go wrong and obviously the closer you are the more chance there is, surely if it was that bad the people involved would have gone to hospital not the local paper?

WillowTheWhisp 01-12-2007 17:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blazey (Post 499411)
a toddler of upto 3 would still require its hand held or baby reins, so a double buggy is appropriate in quite alot of circumstances.

There's 3 years age difference between my two girls and I never needed a double buggy. By the time the second one was born the first one was walking and holding the handle of the pram, connected to me by a wrist strap.

emamum 01-12-2007 17:48

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Originally Posted by accytrader (Post 499394)
I agree with you. I bet compensation has crossed her mind. Whilst on the subject of the Accy Observer there is another brilliant letter on the letters page. Someone is explaining how Accrington's shopkeepers can increase their trade by having shop dorways big enough to fit double buggys in. In my experience the people who push double buggys about are the last people you want in your shop. I estimate it would cost me £3000 to convert my shop. How many packets of fags and cans of 8 Ace would I have to sell to recoup that.

:mad:I have a double buggy, thankyou very much!! why would you not want me in your shop?? people with twins, children that are close together and childminders push double buggies what is wrong with us that says you dont want us in your shop?

derekgas 01-12-2007 19:03

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I think we digress slightly, but have to agree that double buggies are better even for children 2 - 3 years apart, they are under control, and mum/childminder isn't under any pressure, if it is a toss up between getting these in the shop, and some of the children that come in under no such control and wreck the place, I know who i'd prefer! Besides, if the world wasn't the place it has become, people would be able to leave double buggies outside, like they used to do, without the fear of theft...of the children!

WillowTheWhisp 01-12-2007 20:37

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Oh wouldn't it be lovely to be back in those days?

A lot of small shops just don't have enough space inside them for a double buggy. It's bad enough trying to get wheelchair access to places. Some are just too small.

derekgas 01-12-2007 20:45

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Wouldn't it just? willow, I am one of the unfortunates who is stuck in a timewarp, though I still have my values, morals and itegrity intact, and my children know right from wrong, so it isn't a bad thing to be old fashioned in my humble opinion.

BERNADETTE 01-12-2007 21:08

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 499523)
Oh wouldn't it be lovely to be back in those days?

A lot of small shops just don't have enough space inside them for a double buggy. It's bad enough trying to get wheelchair access to places. Some are just too small.

All public places are supposed to be wheelchair friendly, if they aren't they could find themselves in trouble if a wheelchair user complains. It is discrimination against disabled people!!!

Speedy 01-12-2007 21:52

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Yeah but the point is a lot of shops these days are just too small to be able to fit a wheel chair in(not the shopkeepers fault). As a couple of examples the 3 mobile phone shop, and arndale news are both tiny and would struggle to accomodate a wheelchair. But i agree where possible shopkeepers should make an effort to make there stores accessible to everyone.

entwisi 01-12-2007 22:16

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 499543)
All public places are supposed to be wheelchair friendly, if they aren't they could find themselves in trouble if a wheelchair user complains. It is discrimination against disabled people!!!

Not 'quite' accurate bernadette, you have to make all 'reasonable' modifications.

e.g. our local Church has just converted a cellar for use with youth worship. Its down a load of steps either from the outside or internally. It would not be practical to make it accessible to wheelchair bound children. It was investigated whether a stair lift or something could be installed but we were advised that it was neither practical or safe in case of emergency exits. As it is it is not possible except of they were carried down . This is fully covered and there is no case for a discrimination case as due diligence was undertaken

WillowTheWhisp 01-12-2007 22:38

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Automatic sliding doors are a great asset for wheelchair users but they just wouldn't fit in some shops, so how do they go about getting through the door if they are unaccompanied?

harwood red 01-12-2007 22:43

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I had a double pram, except it was a tandem one (baby in back, toddler in front) my two children are only 17months apart and as the eldest was a late walker (preferred bum shuffling :D) there was no way he could have walked any distance on reins!!

I used to avoid shops that I knew I would have problems getting around in.

And to go back to the original subject...I haven't read the complaints but feel it is down to parents to judge what is safe and what isn't

AccyLass 01-12-2007 22:54

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The off licence I work in, you would have great difficulty getting a wheel chair in and certainly a double pram. Doesn't mean we can't be of assistance tho. We have a sign asking wheelchair users just to open the door. We then serve them from the door. No hassle for them trying to get in and out

derekgas 01-12-2007 22:58

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Nice one accylass, more and more today, my faith in human kindness is being restored!

BERNADETTE 01-12-2007 23:09

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Originally Posted by AccyLass27 (Post 499575)
The off licence I work in, you would have great difficulty getting a wheel chair in and certainly a double pram. Doesn't mean we can't be of assistance tho. We have a sign asking wheelchair users just to open the door. We then serve them from the door. No hassle for them trying to get in and out

Really nice to read that sort of attitude:)

BERNADETTE 01-12-2007 23:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 499566)
Not 'quite' accurate bernadette, you have to make all 'reasonable' modifications.

e.g. our local Church has just converted a cellar for use with youth worship. Its down a load of steps either from the outside or internally. It would not be practical to make it accessible to wheelchair bound children. It was investigated whether a stair lift or something could be installed but we were advised that it was neither practical or safe in case of emergency exits. As it is it is not possible except of they were carried down . This is fully covered and there is no case for a discrimination case as due diligence was undertaken

But you know what I mean????

Neil 02-12-2007 01:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 499576)
Nice one accylass, more and more today, my faith in human kindness is being restored!

Unless you are in Sudan ;)

steeljack 02-12-2007 04:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blazey (Post 499411)
a toddler of upto 3 would still require its hand held or baby reins, so a double buggy is appropriate in quite alot of circumstances.

seems to me most Mothers with a baby and a toddler use a buggy board these days :confused: :confused:

Mr Aleks 02-12-2007 13:13

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Originally Posted by Jae Swift (Post 499325)
LOL, she lives at bottom of my street LOL

Then give her a slap and tell her from me if she doesnt like it then dont go see fireworks in future. Or better still go to another contry and take all the other PC,health and safety arseholes with her.

Its just like saying when I went out round town last night and had a few drinks and this morning i could smell beer on me so i think ill go for compensation.

blazey 02-12-2007 13:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 499599)
seems to me most Mothers with a baby and a toddler use a buggy board these days :confused: :confused:

What's a buggy board?

derekgas 02-12-2007 13:42

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You are showing your age blazey, I don't know, but I wasn't about to ask!! Thank you for saving me the trouble!

blazey 02-12-2007 13:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 499669)
You are showing your age blazey, I don't know, but I wasn't about to ask!! Thank you for saving me the trouble!

If you don't ask questions you don't get answers. I think there's a saying about not asking questions, but I dont know that either off the top of my head :p

blazey 02-12-2007 13:48

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Just googled buggy board, do you think my mum will fit one for me to stand on? She insists on walking everywhere but my legs get tired.


babyworld - product reviews - Universal Buggy Board

the toddler stands on it.

derekgas 02-12-2007 13:55

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Beats walking anyday, I don't do walking. I drive, I am on my feet all day at work so I don't see the need to walk more.

blazey 02-12-2007 13:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 499678)
Beats walking anyday, I don't do walking. I drive, I am on my feet all day at work so I don't see the need to walk more.

My boyfriend says that, except, he works (or should I say worked) in an office, so he sat at a computer all day lol.

He says public transport is the scruffy smelly people as well, charming eh!? I am a student, its my only mode of transport other than walking!

thomas.lee 02-12-2007 13:58

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This whole conversation has turned into buggies =P Haha

derekgas 02-12-2007 14:01

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I know Thomas, and it was I who posted yesterday that we had digressed. Point of order against me I think!


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