Doubt over Babysitter's conviction
 

It's mentioned here
BBC NEWS | UK | Doubt cast on baby death verdict

As I read this report I am flabbergasted that the defence barrister didn't question more about the eye adn the fact there was no external injuries.

Just goes to show we really should have the death penalty as this person would not be here now and not be wasting the courts time for a possible wrongful conviction:rolleyes:.

Just wonder how many people were clammering for her to be killed in 2005?

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Well not me, for one, because particularly after Sir Roy Meadow and the disgraceful way he made up scenarios to suit himself I'm very wary of Court evidence in cases like this. Too often it's a case of a conviction at any price.

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This sort of thing happens a lot. injusticebusters 2005 > > How the faulty findings of Dr. Charles Smith led to erroneous murder charges and ruined lives It could be the tip of the iceberg.

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The silence on this thread is deafening ... If we were discussing the conviction of a babysitter who had killed a child, there would be lots clamoring for all kinds of medieaval punishments to be inflicted on the perp. But this case is an argument against capital punishment.

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It doesn't surprise me Eric. This case is an example as to why the death penalty is abhorrent.

The thing is when she was convicted a vast amount of the populace would have been "disgusted by her actions" and asking "how could she swing a young child into a bannister with that force, she should be removed from the genepool."

Yet when one of the strongest arguments against capital punishments is thrown into the arena everyone shuts up tighter than a clam.

This woman is entitled to our sympathy just as much if not more than the victim as she has been tarnished as a child killer and suffered who knows what abuse during her incarceration.

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Totally agree with you and I said as much about poor Stefan Kishko, who spent 14 years inside after being wrongly convicted for the murder of Lesley Molseed. However, the problem is that murderers seem to get away with ridiculously light sentences these days and I think people get frustrated by this. As far as I'm concerned, anyone convicted of murder in cold blood should be locked up for the rest of their natural lives. If they are proved to be innocent at a later date, then they can be released, but if not, then justice has been done!

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If it turns out to have been a false verdict, I’m struggling to see how Suzanne Holdsworth
will ever manage to fully integrate in society for the remainder of her life. There will always be a stigma about this, be it real or perceived. I know if I was her I would never feel at ease, you’d always be thinking people were talking about you, if someone attempted to befriend you then you’d quiz there motives. Her life is pretty much trashed I feel.

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think wyns got a good point, if Life meant Life instead of about 8/10 yrs if yer a good little convict, i think there would be very few people yelling- Top-Em.;)

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A prime example on tonight's news. Some poor bloke got stabbed to death because he went outside his house to remonstrate with a group of youths who were making a lot of noise. The perpetrator received life imprisonment with a recommendation that he should serve a minimum of 14 years. Why?...why didn't he get locked up for the rest of his life? After all, the victim's widow and his two little girls are now serving a life sentence of grief...why should he be able to walk out of prison after 14 years?

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Actually the key word is MINIMUM his sentence is LIFE with a recommendation he serves AT LEAST 14 years, he therefore is not eligible for parole until he has served 14 years. He will then have to convince the panel he is suitable for release at that time (see the case of Beverly Allit and her tariff of 30 years)
BBC NEWS | England | Lincolnshire | Child killer Allitt's tariff set

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So if this piece of scum keeps his nose clean for 14 years and then says sorry to the parole panel, there's chance he'll be released. Disgraceful. He should be locked up for the rest of his life.

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Its a woman not a bloke, not that it makes difference to the things she did, i read about her on a magazine a while ago .

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You're getting two different cases mixed up. Yolanda. The person who got a 14 year minimum was a guy who stabbed someone to death for complaining about the noise he and his mates were making. The woman was a childkiller who killed four and got a 30 year minimum. No matter - both sentences were way too short.