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mrskitty 11-12-2007 12:07

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I am sick to death of people i know and strangers(!) making comments about me being 'at home on my behind all day whilst i get benefits'.....excuse me.........even if i did it would be none of their business but it makes me even more mad because....
I DONT GET BLINKING BENEFITS ANYWAY :mad::mad::mad:
Fair enough when i was on benefit then they had a point to an extent and i just used to take the stick i got for it....even though i worked from when i was 14 till i was 8 months pregnant, with only a 6 months gap when i first moved up here,so i feel i paid enough tax to justify recieving benefits for 2 years so i could be at home with Jack.
When i started seeing my new fella i moved him in with me quite quickly for two reasons-1) because i love him so much:o and 2)because i didnt want to be seen as a benefit cheat even though he wasnt even living with me/giving me money he did come over nearly every day.At that point ALL my benefit stopped.I informed the benefit people the day BEFORE he moved in-which i know most people dont bother doing.

I was on the bus a while ago ago and a women was sat near me and Jack with her lad....she had obviously just been shopping for new shoes for him but he didnt like any of them and he said 'mummy i want ones like that boys got' pointing at Jacks boots to which she replied 'you cant have them,Clarks shoes are too expensive sorry babe' and muttered 'shes obviously on income support'!!!!:mad::mad::mad: i just got off the bus....i didnt know what to say to her cos i was so mad.

Another time i went for a brew at the local surestart centre with Jack and an old couple said to me 'must be hard surviving on benefits and being a single mum eh?!.....erm excuse me IM NOT EITHER!!!!


People should not just assume.


Sorry.......rant over.

flashy 11-12-2007 12:09

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Kitty are you ok?

Yolanda25 11-12-2007 12:15

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Why u get so mad? what happens in ur life is no ones bussiness, if u had to care about what everybody elses says, thinks or mutters then u will have no life, at the end of the day what u recieve or not is up to you and no one else.
I work and im on benefits too, little amount but every little helps, sometimes it makes me angry when people says that i moved from spain to get benefits, well i didnt and i know that and i dont have to explain myself to anyone and neither shud u so stop getting angry about what people says, its not worth it,
Oh and about the clarks shoes bit, my son has them but they have been either given or bought in charity shop or ebay, not because i cant afford it but simply cuz i think they are too expensive and would not pay what they ask in shops.

flashy 11-12-2007 12:18

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get down to tommy balls, all there shoes are clarks :D

Yolanda25 11-12-2007 12:19

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i know my friend buys them there, where is this place?

mrskitty 11-12-2007 12:19

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 502717)
Kitty are you ok?

I am now i have had my rant,cheers.....just pees me off when people say stuff about things they dont have a clue about.

flashy 11-12-2007 12:23

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Originally Posted by Yolanda25 (Post 502725)
i know my friend buys them there, where is this place?


in Blackburn, near Morrisons

flashy 11-12-2007 12:23

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Originally Posted by misskitty (Post 502726)
I am now i have had my rant,cheers.....just pees me off when people say stuff about things they dont have a clue about.



i know what you mean

cashman 11-12-2007 12:55

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miss kitty, people that make comments like that, are just saddos,making up for their own inadequacies, tell em to SWIVEL.;)

emamum 11-12-2007 13:01

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i know exactly how you feel kitty.....

mrskitty 11-12-2007 13:07

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Thanks for your replies.....much appreciated.

beechy 11-12-2007 13:13

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you dont have to explain anything to anyone kitty
your friends dont need explanations
and your enemies wont believe them
so as said before let em swivel ;);)

Stanleymad 11-12-2007 13:14

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Know how that is Kitty had that rant most of my kids life still feel it too to an extent, im a stay at home parent have been for well over a decade [feels longer lol] not really by choice because kids interests have to come 1st & always the priority a pigging nitemare getting a job around it, now my life is a little more lenient, its still a barrier not for want of trying see job apps thread - been doing it long enough to know the rejection & the employment industry being more competitive with the foreigners, im slipping more by the wayside well feels like it, well it shows it means nowt to employers but assume the layabout parent label too despite the voluntary & college inbetween:( - my rant soz:o

Yeh i get the prejudgment comments of sitting on my arse scrounger opinions & im far from it, boring life waiting on yer loved ones & housejobs, its like blumming groundhog day:rolleyes: hence i try & get involved in something like osc & community stuff to least keep me sanish:D otherwise u lose your identity as a person, but some people are only too happy to labelise people to make themselves feel better, its a hard thankless job at times being a responsible stay at home parent & not a career choice LOL!!

Claire Cal 11-12-2007 13:17

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I have my lad in nursery for 3 days a week. I love being able to spend more time with him. But years ago it was mothers duty to stop at home and look after the kids. Why is it now that women are frowned on when they arent at work!!!!

kathleen_firth 11-12-2007 13:33

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i am 20 but look about 15 so people always think im a silly teenager who has gotten pregnant and now im going to be a single parent. ............. well there wrong because i was trying for a year before i managed to get pregnant and me and my boyfriend are still together with no intentions of splitting up... why are people so old fashioned with there opinions

kathleen_firth 11-12-2007 13:34

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apparently young mums just want benefits and a council flat.... id love to be back living at home with my mum again

lancsdave 11-12-2007 13:40

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Originally Posted by kathleen_firth (Post 502764)
apparently young mums just want benefits and a council flat.... id love to be back living at home with my mum again


Council flat is old hat, it's a house they want nowadays :D

Margaret Pilkington 11-12-2007 13:43

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all of us are inclined to make generalisations......it has been done in this thread......and it is something that has always happened in one way or another.
All I would say is live your life and disregard what other people think. You cannot control their thoughts, anymore than they can control yours.

kathleen_firth 11-12-2007 13:48

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 502767)
Council flat is old hat, it's a house they want nowadays :D


lol ...........................

blazey 11-12-2007 14:13

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Originally Posted by kathleen_firth (Post 502763)
i am 20 but look about 15 so people always think im a silly teenager who has gotten pregnant and now im going to be a single parent. ............. well there wrong because i was trying for a year before i managed to get pregnant and me and my boyfriend are still together with no intentions of splitting up... why are people so old fashioned with there opinions

It's funny you say that its an old fashioned opinion because I think its quite a new thing. Most people seem to frown upon teenagers getting married and starting families, yet alot of older people I know seemed to have done all that before they were 20.

I dont think there is anything wrong with young parents or single parents, my mum had me when she was young, and now she is a single parent and I think she does a brilliant job (though some on here might suggest that I turned out badly :p ) , and I'm sure my brother and sister will both turn out well too.

I think the only thing I have a bit of a problem with is older women getting pregnant, but perhaps that isn't right of me, i'm not sure.

WillowTheWhisp 11-12-2007 16:16

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Whatever other people say only reflects their own ignorance. You can't control their opinions but you can control your reaction to them. Just ignore them.

When my mother was ill she spent some time in a nursing home and two old biddies in the next street once said in a stage whisper as I went past "That's her, put her mother away in a home. Can't be bothered with old folks these days."

blazey 11-12-2007 16:22

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 502858)
Whatever other people say only reflects their own ignorance. You can't control their opinions but you can control your reaction to them. Just ignore them.

When my mother was ill she spent some time in a nursing home and two old biddies in the next street once said in a stage whisper as I went past "That's her, put her mother away in a home. Can't be bothered with old folks these days."

Isn't that what nursing homes are for :p I think I personally would be hesitant though of nursing homes, perhaps it might be just because my interest is in the health care/medical secter of law, but there are so many cases of the nurses mistreating and even killing the elderly people in their care, there is even a couple currently in the news for it, and its not a rare thing. Its horrible.

WillowTheWhisp 11-12-2007 16:31

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This wasn't a residential home, this was a sort of recuperating place between hospital and home. The doctor wouldn't release her to come home as he considered she needed 24 hour care but hospitals are for ill people not for recuperating people.

blazey 11-12-2007 16:42

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 502872)
This wasn't a residential home, this was a sort of recuperating place between hospital and home. The doctor wouldn't release her to come home as he considered she needed 24 hour care but hospitals are for ill people not for recuperating people.

Carers, minders, anyone with responsibility for looking after people in some way neglect people. It's not even safe to have your own family care for someone who's ill or in need of care at times, and its not just elderly people, its disabled people and children and those with severe illnesses. Its hard to find someone you genuinely can rely on to have that kind of responsibility for your loved ones i think. There are just so many cruel people out there :(

Margaret Pilkington 11-12-2007 17:04

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There are thousands of carers out there who do the work for very little money and do not ill treat the people in their care......because a few hit the headlines does not mean that they are all like that. Newspapers and TV programs love to make much out of a minority.
Many carers go above and beyond the call of duty, because they become attached to the people they are caring for.

I worked in Nursing for almost 30 years and never saw anyone ill treat a client/patient...and if I had seen that kind of treatment I would have reported it in an instant.....I have, however seen nurses hit, scratched and bitten by people under the influence of alcohol....but that doesn't mean that all people who drink alcohol will treat nurses in that way

blazey 11-12-2007 17:05

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 502911)
There are thousands of carers out there who do the work for very little money and do not ill treat the people in their care......because a few hit the headlines does not mean that they are all like that. Newspapers and TV programs love to make much out of a minority.
Many carers go above and beyond the call of duty, because they become attached to the people they are caring for.

I worked in Nursing for almost 30 years and never saw anyone ill treat a client/patient...and if I had seen that kind of treatment I would have reported it in an instant.....I have, however seen nurses hit, scratched and bitten by people under the influence of alcohol....but that doesn't mean that all people who drink alcohol will treat nurses in that way

Obviously they arent all like that, but what i'm saying is that its a horrible world when you have to worry about such possibilities when its meant to be a help to everyone including the person who is being treated there.

Margaret Pilkington 11-12-2007 17:10

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mentioning the fact that some carers do abuse those in their care, does offend the vast majority of those who do their job diligently and to the best of their ability, and may perpetuate fears in people who are currently in the situation of looking for somewhere to place an elderly or infirm relative.
Although I take your point that it must be considered, it is a sweeping generalisation.

WillowTheWhisp 11-12-2007 17:22

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There are a lot of good dedicated carers out there who do not neglect those they are looking after.

panther 11-12-2007 18:22

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theres nowt wrong with single mothers on benefits, they do a good job on their own, probably better than most couples.
I have no problem with them whatsoever.

mallard 11-12-2007 19:01

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Just look at it this way you have payed your tax,s but there is a lot that has not so don,t let them get you down.

Eric 11-12-2007 19:46

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Originally Posted by kathleen_firth (Post 502763)
i am 20 but look about 15 so people always think im a silly teenager who has gotten pregnant and now im going to be a single parent. ............. well there wrong because i was trying for a year before i managed to get pregnant and me and my boyfriend are still together with no intentions of splitting up... why are people so old fashioned with there opinions

Some people are so old fashioned (in the bad sense) with their opinions because they need something to fill up their boring sh***y lives. Screw what strangers think; or better still, tell them what you think of them.

grego 11-12-2007 19:48

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I dont think you should listen to people's generalisations, this Govt doesn't make it easy for a mother to return to work, childcare costs are high and I agree a lot of employers aren't flexible enough. You dont have to prove yourself to anyone.

BERNADETTE 11-12-2007 21:05

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BlazeyCarers, minders, anyone with responsibility for looking after people in some way neglect people.
That is a ridiculous statement to make and I am deeply offended by it. I was Iantos carer and I resent you implying that I was neglectful in my care for him. You really should think before you speak or do you just not care about other peoples feelings????

kathleen_firth 11-12-2007 21:11

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i totally agree with bernadette. that was a nasty thing to say i know loads of carers that love the people they care for and do a very good job at it aswell...

cashman 11-12-2007 21:51

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there are quite a few members who have been carers for loved ones,and to generalise like that is abysmal blazey, sometimes you should look at the big picture before engaging yer big gob.:(

emamum 11-12-2007 22:01

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does your statement apply to anyone careing for someone?? this must include teachers, nursery nurses and mothers as they care for children... so does your mother neglect her children?

katex 11-12-2007 22:22

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Originally Posted by kathleen_firth (Post 502763)
i am 20 but look about 15 so people always think im a silly teenager who has gotten pregnant and now im going to be a single parent. ............. well there wrong because i was trying for a year before i managed to get pregnant and me and my boyfriend are still together with no intentions of splitting up... why are people so old fashioned with there opinions

So why do you just no get married then, if you were trying for a year to become a family unit? OK.. old-fashioned opinion maybe. :confused:

WillowTheWhisp 11-12-2007 22:24

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Getting married seems to be an old fashioned idea these days but I hope it makes a come back.

firth_dawn 11-12-2007 23:19

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i know what ur saying ive been married 24 years now been together 25 years but for our kids to get married now a days it is so expensive i think thats one reason why they dont seem intrested to get married.

mrskitty 12-12-2007 00:02

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Originally Posted by firth_dawn (Post 503096)
i know what ur saying ive been married 24 years now been together 25 years but for our kids to get married now a days it is so expensive i think thats one reason why they dont seem intrested to get married.


I think this is definately one of the reasons....getting wed really does cost over the top amounts of money these days if you want whats considered a 'nice wedding'.To most it would mean getting into debt....something alot of people dont want to do,but thats a whole new topic :D

Neil 12-12-2007 00:13

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 502785)
It's funny you say that its an old fashioned opinion because I think its quite a new thing. Most people seem to frown upon teenagers getting married and starting families, yet alot of older people I know seemed to have done all that before they were 20.

That is because we did it and now we know better. In my opinion 20 is too young to have children. You should be enjoying time with your other half while you still can. Children make a massive change to your life. You wont realise how massive till you have one.

I thought the trend now was to sort out your life/job/house etc then have children later in life, maybe in your 30's.

Except the ones who want council houses and free council tax of course :rolleyes::D:D

Neil 12-12-2007 00:17

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Originally Posted by misskitty (Post 503099)
I think this is definately one of the reasons....getting wed really does cost over the top amounts of money these days if you want whats considered a 'nice wedding'.To most it would mean getting into debt....something alot of people dont want to do,but thats a whole new topic :D

I don't agree with that either. It depends why you want to get married. Is it because you want to be married or because you want to have a nice day? A friend of mine recently got married at the registrar office with just their parents there. They told hardly anyone about it until after the event. They did not need to get wed for any 'other' reason, they just wanted to be married to each other.

mrskitty 12-12-2007 00:28

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 503104)
I don't agree with that either. It depends why you want to get married. Is it because you want to be married or because you want to have a nice day?


BOTH! maybe im just greedy?:D

Neil 12-12-2007 00:56

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Originally Posted by misskitty (Post 503108)
BOTH! maybe im just greedy?:D

Thats another reason for doing the marriage bit first and the baby bit second. After the baby bit you will never have enough money for the wedding bit :D

I know, I did the baby bit first, but he did look smart in his top hat at the wedding :).

mrskitty 12-12-2007 00:59

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 503114)
Thats another reason for doing the marriage bit first and the baby bit second. After the baby bit you will never have enough money for the wedding bit :D

I know, I did the baby bit first, but he did look smart in his top hat at the wedding :).


I was determined never to get married before Jack came along....

Neil 12-12-2007 01:04

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Originally Posted by misskitty (Post 503116)
I was determined never to get married before Jack came along....

Sorry I am a little confused by that

Do you mean you

Intended to never get married but now you have Jack you would

or

That you wanted to have children before getting married

mrskitty 12-12-2007 01:11

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Lol erm neither (i think?).....
I never intended on getting married EVER.

Neil 12-12-2007 01:17

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Originally Posted by misskitty (Post 503119)
I never intended on getting married EVER.

Why not?

Yes I am noisey :D

mrskitty 12-12-2007 01:23

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Noisey AND nosey Neil...poor Romps lol

erm various reasons really-i came from a family that has lots of broken bad marriages,i think its a very expensive piece of paper and felt it wouldn't change much in a relationship....my views have changed obviously, but before they had a little gorgeous thing called Jack appeared (just call me Mary) ;)

Neil 12-12-2007 01:29

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Ok so my browser at work does not a spell cheker and I am naff at spelling Mary

mrskitty 12-12-2007 01:33

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Il let you off seeing as its so early in the morning x

yerself 12-12-2007 17:15

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Originally Posted by firth_dawn
i know what ur saying ive been married 24 years now been together 25 years but for our kids to get married now a days it is so expensive i think thats one reason why they dont seem intrested to get married.

What a load of old ballcocks. It's no more expensive to get married now, in real terms, than it ever has been.

WillowTheWhisp 12-12-2007 18:15

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It's possible to have quite a reasonably priced wedding (don't want to say cheap) if you plan it carefully.

Mind you, it helps when as a Latter-day saint we don't have to pay for the church, or the organist, or the person who conducts the ceremony, or even the registrar! (the last one is me!)

emamum 12-12-2007 18:16

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so can accywebbers get a cheaper wedding by asking you?:D;)

WillowTheWhisp 12-12-2007 18:21

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No, unfortunately I only have authority to register weddings in our church.

Lilly 12-12-2007 21:08

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 503104)
I don't agree with that either. It depends why you want to get married. Is it because you want to be married or because you want to have a nice day? A friend of mine recently got married at the registrar office with just their parents there. They told hardly anyone about it until after the event. They did not need to get wed for any 'other' reason, they just wanted to be married to each other.

You're right there, Neil. How much does it cost to get married at the registry? I think it's about £40 for the necessary license. It need not cost any more than that.

Getting married is as expensive as you make it. You can spend thousands on the day if you want but it's not compulsory.

Neil 12-12-2007 23:53

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 503310)
No, unfortunately I only have authority to register weddings in our church.

How does that work then?
I thought CofE ministers ( or whatever you call them) can marry people, apart from that I thought it was only the registrars who could do it at licensed places. Many hotels are licensed now.

If you get married in a catholic church don't you need a registrar there?

WillowTheWhisp 13-12-2007 06:43

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I am what is known as the "Responsible Authorised Person" for our chapel, but only for the designated chapel. I have two additional assistants who can act on my behalf in my absence. Any wedding which takes place in our chapel must have one of us present to do the paperwork or the wedding would not be legal. The Bishop conducts the actual ceremony and does all the "Will you Fred Whojamathump take this woman Jane Whatsername" stuff but that's not the legal part that's only half of it. I have to have the required info before the wedding takes place and then complete the certificate during the ceremony. I try to get it done whilst the "Do you and does he?" bit is going on so that the actual signing is quite short and the congregation doesn't get bored. There are 3 things for them to sign anyway and they have to be signed by bride and groom 2 witnesses and the Bishop as well as me and that can take long enough!

A Responsible Authorised Person is authorised by the Registrar General not by the church. I am answerable to Smedly Hydro!

If none of the three of us are available then someone from the Register Office is asked to do it but they charge for their services.

Neil 13-12-2007 09:25

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 503455)
A Responsible Authorised Person is authorised by the Registrar General not by the church. I am answerable to Smedly Hydro!

If none of the three of us are available then someone from the Register Office is asked to do it but they charge for their services.

Is that unique to your church or do other non CofE churches do it as well?
Is it a new thing as I thought only CofE ministers and registrars could do weddings.

mrskitty 13-12-2007 10:42

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I suppose i could cut costs a bit cos my grandads a vicar :)

cashman 13-12-2007 10:52

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getting wed needn't cost the earth, got stretch limo, licence,flowers,witnesses, video,lovely chapel, etc etc, cost around 250 dollars, ya just need to suss things out. that was approx 6 yrs ago, ya can book a package with a tour operator n will cost a fortune, use yer head n jobs a good un.;)

mrskitty 13-12-2007 11:44

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I can think of more important things to spend our money atm though eg our house,Jack.
He reckons he is gona marry me eventually.....thats if i say yes ;)

WillowTheWhisp 13-12-2007 12:05

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 503436)
How does that work then?
I thought CofE ministers ( or whatever you call them) can marry people, apart from that I thought it was only the registrars who could do it at licensed places. Many hotels are licensed now.

If you get married in a catholic church don't you need a registrar there?



I think CofE vicars are the only ones who don't need an additional Registrar type person as being the authorised church of the land they already have that authority (or summat like that). That's why we have the additional person acting on behalf of the Register Office (ie me). I don't know for sure but I would presume that any other church can apply if they have a congregation member willing to do the 'job' - of course they may well charge the regitration fee though. We are authorised by the Register Office to charge that fee. It would be my fee for services rendered. But LDS members never charge each other for things - like we got our organist from another Ward as we don't actually have one at Blackburn who can do all that fancy stuff but she would never have dreamed of charging us for doing it. Of course we bought her something as a thank you because she had to come all the way from Chorley and we brought her over a couple of times for a practice on our organ.

If you wanted to know for sure if other churches can appoint their own Authorised Person to register weddings you could always ask the Registrar General's office. I only know what happens in our church. Some of our Wards don't have anyone who does it because no-one in the ward wants to volunteer to do it so they just get someone in from the Register Office. I can't register a wedding that takes place anywhere else but our chapel in Blackburn. Perhaps the Catholic church just doesn't see the need to have one of their congregation do the job when there are people who come and do it for you. Oh yes, the church has to have somewhere same and secure and approved by the powers that be to store the certificates and records etc too.

Sounds like a good idea to ask a relative who is a C of E vicar, that would cut down on the he costs.

Neil 13-12-2007 17:38

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 503506)
Sounds like a good idea to ask a relative who is a C of E vicar, that would cut down on the he costs.

It just so happens that a friend of ours is a C of E Vicar, I will ask him what he knows about it all when I see him next. I suspect he could only do it in a C of E church after all the license bit has been done.

Margaret Pilkington 13-12-2007 17:42

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I think we paid something like 17/6 to get married.....my suit was 12 quid....the taxi up to the register office was a couple of quid....both hubby and I travelled there in the same one.....we didn't have a reception, someone made us a cake as a gift. OK, all this was 42 years ago....but he has asked many times if I wanted to do the church thing with a swish do.....but my answer has always been NO.
Getting married was the important bit.....not the flash clothes or the posh do.......and if I could go back, and had more money I wouldn't change a thing.

WillowTheWhisp 13-12-2007 18:10

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 503570)
It just so happens that a friend of ours is a C of E Vicar, I will ask him what he knows about it all when I see him next. I suspect he could only do it in a C of E church after all the license bit has been done.

I'd be interested to know if your friend the vicar is limited to the church where he does his vicaring (been fishing round for the right word but can't think of one!) in the same way that I'm restricted to the one Ward of our church. I couldn't for instance register a wedding in Burnley or Lancaster, only in our Blackburn chapel.

Lilly 13-12-2007 20:44

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 503579)
I'd be interested to know if your friend the vicar is limited to the church where he does his vicaring (been fishing round for the right word but can't think of one!) in the same way that I'm restricted to the one Ward of our church. I couldn't for instance register a wedding in Burnley or Lancaster, only in our Blackburn chapel.


C of E vicars are not limited to the church at which they are incumbent (is that the word you were looking for?) for weddings, funerals or christenings. :)

WillowTheWhisp 13-12-2007 22:23

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Incumbent, that's the word! Thank you. :)

That's like our Bishops they can conduct weddings in other Wards of the church but the wedding has to be registered by the authorised person for the Ward where the wedding takes place. So for instance if a wedding took place in our Ward and the Stake President conducted it I would still be the registering person but if our Bishop did a wedding at Chorley (for whatever unlikely reason) it would be registered by the authorised person for that building. Just like a registrar from Blackburn can't do a wedding in Accrington. It has to be an Accrington one.

So I wonder how it works that a vicar can do it anywhere. Maybe the C of E have different rules to the General Register Office. I was thinking they came under the same jurisdiction.

Lilly 13-12-2007 22:40

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Incumbent, that's the word! Thank you. :)

That's like our Bishops they can conduct weddings in other Wards of the church but the wedding has to be registered by the authorised person for the Ward where the wedding takes place. So for instance if a wedding took place in our Ward and the Stake President conducted it I would still be the registering person but if our Bishop did a wedding at Chorley (for whatever unlikely reason) it would be registered by the authorised person for that building. Just like a registrar from Blackburn can't do a wedding in Accrington. It has to be an Accrington one.

So I wonder how it works that a vicar can do it anywhere. Maybe the C of E have different rules to the General Register Office. I was thinking they came under the same jurisdiction.


You would need to ask your chosen vicar if he was willing and you would also need to okay it with the incumbent of the church you'd chosen. I know that our vicar has done weddings elsewhere and that we have had other vicars officiating in our church.

Neil 13-12-2007 23:01

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we have had other vicars officiating in our church.

I hope he cleaned it up afterwards :rolleyes:

WillowTheWhisp 14-12-2007 11:51

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Yes but that still doesn't answer my query about the registering part of it. I feel a phone call to Southport coming on.

mrskitty 14-12-2007 12:59

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Yes but that still doesn't answer my query about the registering part of it. I feel a phone call to Southport coming on.

Im ringing my grandad tonight,do you want me to ask him?

Lilly 14-12-2007 20:29

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Yes but that still doesn't answer my query about the registering part of it. I feel a phone call to Southport coming on.

They can conduct weddings in any church as long as they have the permission of the incumbent.

If you wanted the vicar at St Paul's in Oswaldtwistle to conduct your wedding and you were getting married in Cambridge this would be ok as long as the vicar of the church in Cambridge gave his permission.:)

mallard 14-12-2007 20:41

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miss kitty don,t you let them work you up in any way just get on with your life and you keep a smile on your face and everything will work out for you.

WillowTheWhisp 14-12-2007 22:51

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They can conduct weddings in any church as long as they have the permission of the incumbent.

If you wanted the vicar at St Paul's in Oswaldtwistle to conduct your wedding and you were getting married in Cambridge this would be ok as long as the vicar of the church in Cambridge gave his permission.:)

Yes I understand that part but was wondering if the vicar is legally authorised to register the wedding in another parish or if the registrar or vicar from that registration district has to do it.

I never did get around to phoning Southport, got busy this afternoon and evening. Did you ask your Granddad Kitty?


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