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broadhurst7173 12-12-2007 16:47

christmas at rhyddings or not
 
is rhyddings the only school that doesnt really celebrate christmas for the kids, ie no xmas, no tree in the main hall but when its eid they have banners and slideshows in the hall, this doesnt seem fair as we arent muslims and dont celebrate eid, and christmas is a time when christ was born and being catholic is my religion.

thomas.lee 12-12-2007 17:03

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Because, "Muslims may be offended by the Christmas celebrations". And if we don't allow Muslims to celebrate Eid, we're being Racist obviously.. =)

mez 12-12-2007 17:08

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my g/daughter is working at broadfield s/school & they have some christmas tree's there, & yes muslims do attend that school, the children have double celebrations as they celebrate eid too.

Eric 12-12-2007 19:36

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Originally Posted by thomas.lee (Post 503266)
Because, "Muslims may be offended by the Christmas celebrations". And if we don't allow Muslims to celebrate Eid, we're being Racist obviously.. =)

"We are being challenged by Islam these years. Globally as well as locally.
There is something impressive about people for whom religion imbues their existence from dusk to dawn, from cradle to grave ... There is something endearing about people who give themselves up completely to their faith. But there is likewise something frightening about such a totality which also is a feature of Islam. A counterbalance has to be found, and one has to, at times, run the risk of having unflattering labels placed on you. For there are some things for which one should display no tolerance. And when we are tolerant, we must know whether it is because of convenience or conviction."

Margrethe ll of Denmark.

Merry Christmas/Joyeux Noel.

cashman 12-12-2007 19:41

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Originally Posted by broadhurst7173 (Post 503261)
is rhyddings the only school that doesnt really celebrate christmas for the kids, ie no xmas, no tree in the main hall but when its eid they have banners and slideshows in the hall, this doesnt seem fair as we arent muslims and dont celebrate eid, and christmas is a time when christ was born and being catholic is my religion.

if thats the case its bloody disgusting, both xmas n eid should be celebrated in school if there are mixed religions, this is P.C. gone mad AGAIN.:mad:

broadhurst7173 12-12-2007 19:45

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it offends me that my children cant celebrate at school but the asians can, i dont make a fuss when they celebrate eid, so why is a fuss made when we want to celebrate, its this that is going to cause intolerance and racism in my opinion, why doesnt it matter if we are offended.

emamum 12-12-2007 19:46

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the schools i have worked in have celebrates both, it is a good time to teach the children about different religions, cultures and beliefs.....

cashman 12-12-2007 19:48

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it does matter if we are offended broadhurst, just not to the gutless policical animals that we vote for.:mad:

broadhurst7173 12-12-2007 19:48

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Originally Posted by mez (Post 503269)
my g/daughter is working at broadfield s/school & they have some christmas tree's there, & yes muslims do attend that school, the children have double celebrations as they celebrate eid too.

i have a daughter at special school, she is autistic and they celebrate no problem, it just seems to be rhyddings, they have in a few classes a few deccies, but not in the main hall. broadfield is a great school i tried to get my daughter in as its just on my doorstep but i was unlucky, although they gave advice to the school i got her about her problems.

Margaret Pilkington 12-12-2007 19:49

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Telephone the school and ask them directly what their policy is about religious celebrations.

broadhurst7173 12-12-2007 19:50

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 503353)
it does matter if we are offended broadhurst, just not to the gutless policical animals that we vote for.:mad:

how do they expect us all to get on if they are creating all this tension,

broadhurst7173 12-12-2007 19:51

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i will do margaret, also when its eid the asians get time off but not ours, veen though at christmas they are all off, i dont get it.

cashman 12-12-2007 19:52

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Originally Posted by broadhurst7173 (Post 503356)
how do they expect us all to get on if they are creating all this tension,

us all getting on is not a big vote winner i think.:rolleyes:

Neil 12-12-2007 19:53

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 503350)
if thats the case its bloody disgusting, both xmas n eid should be celebrated in school if there are mixed religions, this is P.C. gone mad AGAIN.:mad:

None of them should be celebrated in school. I don't agree in forced religion in any way, shape or form.

emamum 12-12-2007 19:56

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its not forced.. parents can opt their children out of anything they dont agree with, children are taught about many different religions, we celebrated passover, despite the fact there are no jewish children in the school....

Margaret Pilkington 12-12-2007 19:57

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I think if enough flag waving Christians were to ask questions then maybe they would be keener to advertise Christmas......somehow the fact that a lot of Christians do not wear their religion like a badge is probably what makes muslims think that we don't care much about religion....and that it is just an incidental part of our lives. It seems like you have to have a fanatical fervour to be taken seriously.

broadhurst7173 12-12-2007 19:58

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if they are to be celebrated then it should be done fairly and not onesided, i was brought up a very strict catholic but i wouldnt shove it down anyones throat and let my children decide if they want to go to church or not, but at school they havent even got the choice of celebrating.

cashman 12-12-2007 19:59

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 503359)
None of them should be celebrated in school. I don't agree in forced religion in any way, shape or form.

think theres a differance between forced religion @ taught religion, forced to me was when the teacher used to ask- what colour robe was the priest wearing in mass yesterday, learning about differant beliefs etc can only do good i think.

emamum 12-12-2007 19:59

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Originally Posted by broadhurst7173 (Post 503362)
if they are to be celebrated then it should be done fairly and not onesided, i was brought up a very strict catholic but i wouldnt shove it down anyones throat and let my children decide if they want to go to church or not, but at school they havent even got the choice of celebrating.

the exact reason my son goes to catholic school

Margaret Pilkington 12-12-2007 20:00

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I do not agree with enforced religious instruction, but you can't make choices about whether to follow one religion or another, if you are not exposed to any religious tenets.

emamum 12-12-2007 20:03

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singke faith schools now have to admit children from other faiths.. this means that the children are taught about their own religion and the religions of others...my lad knows about many religions, but thats because it interests me

lancsdave 12-12-2007 20:21

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I can tell you Hollins haven't taken the opt out. Apparently there's a massive one in reception :D

Eric 12-12-2007 20:30

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It seems that what is happening to you guys is not tolerance but surrender. I don't think that the answer is a return to a christian society but a return to the good old-fashioned (in the positive sense) Lancashire values that many of you put forward in your posts. Any one coming from abroad to live in your communtiy should subscribe to these values or go somewhere else, or just stay home. This is not a popular opinion, and by proposing it, one runs the risk of being called "rascist." But it is that, or losing your identity, losing what our great-grandfathers, our grandfathers, and our fathers fought and died for. I know that my ancestors did not slog thro' mud, and blood, and the assorted body parts of their mates so that some pussy govt. should give England away without a fight.

The people of Quebec are in the process of forming new rules for immigrants. They are suggesting that anyone who wishes to settle in their province should sign a document agreeing to conform to the historical and settled values of la belle province. Among them: a commitment to democracy, and agreement to have their children educated in the French language, and a recognition of the equality of the sexes. We can all learn from this. The only people in Quebec who are complainig about this are the muslims. They are particularly offended by the "equality of the sexes" item. Evidently they want to come to Quebec and still be free to treat their women like s**t. It is not a long journey from this attitude to the "honor" killings which so rightly shock and digust us all.

This is my rant from the colonies. Maybe, living here, it is none of my business. But Canadians know what it is to be Canadian, and I damn sure we will not surrender our values and our identity to anyone. Many Americans think of us an image of them, a 51st state in waiting, but they aren't in Canada for long, before they realize that we are Canada not America, and we are damned proud of it.

Lolly 12-12-2007 22:49

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When I was at Rhyddings (94-99) we always decorated for Christmas. We used to have a fabulous tree in The Arts Centre and one in the main reception area, the teachers usually put up some sort of decoration in their classrooms aswell.

The one in The Arts Centre got a clobbering one year during the school production, we were doing a battle scene and someone tripped and fell right into it! lol.

WillowTheWhisp 13-12-2007 07:00

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There are Christmas trees of sorts at Moorhead - sort of weird modern things but at least they are there.

I think you'll find that it isn't Muslims who object to Christmas or are offended by it (after all they do revere Jesus as a prophet) it's the over zealous PCness which has taken over this country and which is actually having the opposite effect from the intended.

I also agree that it's unfair that the Muslim children have extra holidays with Eids as well as Christmas and Easter, yet the non-Muslim children must go to school at Eid or they would be chased by the truant officers. Why can't they all have a day off? That would be equality.

When Emz was little she announced one day that she wanted to convert to Islam and when I asked her why it was because her best friend, a Muslim girl, had more holidays than her.

emamum 13-12-2007 12:55

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i still worked at eid, one year there were 5/6 children in every class so we brought them together juniors in one class and infants in another.. we spent most iof the day playing games and watching dvd's... not my idea of an education!! the only thing i was happy about is that i got 3 hours extra work the children should have got the day off but then parents would have had to take the day off or pay for childcare....

panther 13-12-2007 19:02

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my daughter goes to rhyddings and she also says that there isnt a tree in the main entrance, but when it comes to eid they put alsorts up!
doesnt seem fair to me.
BUT....she does say they DO have some trees in SOME classes and bits of decorations, but not like they used to have:(
what is this country coming too??....:(

Eric 13-12-2007 19:25

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 503600)
my daughter goes to rhyddings and she also says that there isnt a tree in the main entrance, but when it comes to eid they put alsorts up!
doesnt seem fair to me.
BUT....she does say they DO have some trees in SOME classes and bits of decorations, but not like they used to have:(
what is this country coming too??....:(

If your question isn't rhetorical, I would say that under a smokescreen of political correctness you guys are losing your national and regional identity:(

Lilly 13-12-2007 20:55

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Rhyddings, Hollins and Moorhead are not church schools. Is this the reason that they are not paying much attention to Christmas? It is a religious occasion after all. Just wondering....:confused:

cherokee 13-12-2007 21:11

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Maybe writing to the governers amd also a copy to ofsted might give you some answers.

Eric 14-12-2007 17:22

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I don't know if this will surprise anyone, but I had no idea what Eid was until I looked at this thread. I asked a few friends and the closest anyone came was that it had something to do with artificial insemination. But here in the middle of nowhere, in the backwoods and the boonies, information comes slowly. Most of us are backward enough to still wish one another Merry Christmas. We also buy Christmas presents and have Christmas dinner and a Christmas tree. Joyeux Noel, eh.:rolleyes:

I wonder if the AI thing will put me on some Islamic extremist's s**t list:confused::D

mallard 15-12-2007 21:20

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I would get on to them because they do get funding for that sort of thing.

WillowTheWhisp 16-12-2007 07:53

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Do they? Maybe Caspar could enlighten us on that one. Where IS Caspar these days?


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