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lancsdave 18-12-2007 11:07

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The Pogues record Fairytale Of New York has been censored on Radio 1. Apparently the word faggot is deemed to cause offence.

The censorship has not been applied to Radio 2.

Given that Radio 1 is generally aimed at a the teenage/college/uni market does this mean that todays youth are easily offended or is it because they pick up on anything not politically correct to create a storm ?

WillowTheWhisp 18-12-2007 11:12

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So where does that leave us with:




For sale only to the over 18s? (If you don't look 21 will you be asked for ID before you can buy them?) ;)

lancsdave 18-12-2007 11:16

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Are you trying to get my thread moved to the Over 18's ? :rolleyes::D

Stanleymad 18-12-2007 11:27

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They have dubbed that on music tv too, tho when released as xmas no 2 in 1987 it was quite fine to play in its entirety & thought nothing of it when nearly 12 back then :eek:

Must be a lot more 'young' cheap lousey faggots available now that get very upset:D

dannii175 18-12-2007 11:33

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it doesn't bother me in the slightest! in my opinion its a song and people should just get over it! its not like its directly aimed at anyone in specific. Its a word for crying out loud! it does my head in! (by the way i'm only 20)

kathleen_firth 18-12-2007 11:40

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they censor that word but there is another word in the verse that i think is worse than faggot

BERNADETTE 18-12-2007 11:40

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Originally Posted by kathleen_firth (Post 505191)
they censor that word but there is another word in the verse that i think is worse than faggot

What word????

WillowTheWhisp 18-12-2007 11:42

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maggot? ......

Stanleymad 18-12-2007 11:52

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Can think of a worse lyrically rude song, that the bbc did try to ban unsuccessfully 'relax' by frankie goes to hollywood :D The hardest one to play was Eamon's F.... it i dont want u back with 33 expletives & the rebuck song FURB by frankie is 22 expletives tho super furry animals song had record 49 swearies those are the record holders for the top 40.

Tho i think the music youth listen to especially rap/r&b have much worser & nasty lyrics than faggots !!

Stanleymad 18-12-2007 11:55

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Lyrics for song & yes kathleen there is a worser word lol :o

It was Christmas Eve babe
In the drunk tank
An old man said to me, won't see another one
And then he sang a song
The Rare Old Mountain Dew
I turned my face away
And dreamed about you

Got on a lucky one
Came in AT eighteen to one
I've got a feeling
This year's for me and you
So Happy Christmas
I love you baby
I can see a better time
When all our dreams come true

They've got cars big as bars
They've got rivers of gold
But the wind goes right through you
It's no place for the old
When you first took my hand
On a cold Christmas Eve
You promised me
Broadway was waiting for me

You were handsome
You were pretty
Queen of New York City
When the band finished playing
They howled out for more
Sinatra was swinging,
All the drunks they were singing
We kissed on a corner
Then danced through the night

The boys of the NYPD choir
Were singing "Galway Bay"
And the bells were ringing out
For Christmas day

You're a bum
You're a punk
You're an old slut on junk
Lying there almost dead on a drip in that bed
You scumbag, you maggot
You cheap lousy faggot
Happy Christmas your arse
I pray God it's our last

The boys of the NYPD choir
Still singing "Galway Bay"
And the bells were ringing out
For Christmas day


I could have been someone
Well so could anyone
You took my dreams from me
When I first found you
I kept them with me babe
I put them with my own
Can't make it all alone
I've built my dreams around you

The boys of the NYPD choir
Still singing "Galway Bay"
And the bells are ringing out
For Christmas Day

BERNADETTE 18-12-2007 11:58

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Stll a brilliant song IMO, these people who complain need to get a life!!!

cashman 18-12-2007 12:00

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dont bother me much cos radio1 is crap n i dont listen to it.:D i hear it on other stations no prob, so its radio1 with the problem.:rolleyes: dont think todays youth would object at all, just the fuddy duddies at 1. lol

kathleen_firth 18-12-2007 12:11

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i was in the pound shop in town when it played and the and i thought they had censored the wrong word lol

shillelagh 18-12-2007 12:53

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BBC NEWS | Entertainment | Radio 1 censors Pogues' Fairytale

They are running a poll on the bbc website - 6365 people have voted 95% say it shouldnt have been edited.

I dont understand why theyve done it. Didnt bother them before so why now?

lancsdave 18-12-2007 13:17

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 505229)
BBC NEWS | Entertainment | Radio 1 censors Pogues' Fairytale

They are running a poll on the bbc website - 6365 people have voted 95% say it shouldnt have been edited.

I dont understand why theyve done it. Didnt bother them before so why now?


Because there is some pompous git sat in an office at BBC towers who thinks he/she doesn't like the word and wants to make us think they are doing something useful with the rip off they call a licence.

BLACKBURN RAVER 18-12-2007 14:12

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 505170)
The Pogues record Fairytale Of New York has been censored on Radio 1. Apparently the word faggot is deemed to cause offence.

The censorship has not been applied to Radio 2.

Given that Radio 1 is generally aimed at a the teenage/college/uni market does this mean that todays youth are easily offended or is it because they pick up on anything not politically correct to create a storm ?


its pathetic...

but this should be censored

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WillowTheWhisp 18-12-2007 14:38

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It's not as if it's a new song and nobody has ever heard the word before!

As for Shane MacGowan - a face only a mother could love?

Surprised they haven't banned the name of the band.

lancsdave 18-12-2007 16:58

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Due to public demand they have now done a u-turn and uncensored it.

Wonder if they can now start running the country, despite the first cock-up at least they listened and acted :)

shakermaker 18-12-2007 17:12

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It's a good job the song doesn't say 'you & your faggots', then it would be offensive :D

Seriously though, the lyrics are in 'call and answer me' form; a conversation between two fictional characters. I would like to know who exactly has taken offense at this, and give them a gigantic slap across the face with the letters R, E, A, L, I, T, Y stamped across my palm.

Radio 2 all the way :)

Eric 18-12-2007 17:50

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:confused:This is a problem in a country where cigs are fags:confused: Ah well, pass the faggots and peas. (I think there might be a joke in there somewhere ... a delicate play on the themes of man-to-man love, and the dangers of flatulence):eek: Must be a real shortage of news on that side of the pond. What you need is a blizzard to take your minds off things:D

panther 18-12-2007 18:58

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amazing what booze and fags does to ya!!......:eek:
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blazey 18-12-2007 19:08

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Anyone with any common sense would see that this is not really a question of political correctness and censorship at all, its another way of attracting publicity in the medias direction, in this case radio 1.

Young people aren't easily offended, in fact I think the majority of young people enjoy a bit of offensive banter, as do most people. Would comedians be successful if they didn't say things a bit out of line every now and again?

Look how successful the likes of older comedians, say for example Roy Chubby Brown, and younger ones like Jimmy Carr are, and they make jokes that have crossed the line all the time and people of all ages enjoy their acts. Faggot is hardly a highly offensive word, and I think everyone my age has an uncle that seems to say a swear word at every oppurtunity. If people are offended by the word Faggot then they need to get out more.

Claire Cal 18-12-2007 20:07

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What the hell is the world coming too. Absolutely fantastic song. You know when its christmas when you hear it. I heard it on TMF on freeview today and it was censored and i thought WTF it wasnt censored on Saturday when i heard it! It draws more attention to it when its censored than when it isnt. STUPID

lancsdave 18-12-2007 20:59

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 505340)
Anyone with any common sense would see that this is not really a question of political correctness and censorship at all, its another way of attracting publicity in the medias direction, in this case radio 1.

Amazing how everybody who responded to this thread never spotted it. We just needed some expertise and wisdom to point it out :D

blazey 18-12-2007 21:07

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 505399)
Amazing how everybody who responded to this thread never spotted it. We just needed some expertise and wisdom to point it out :D

Well I wasn't implying that the people who had already commented had no common sense, but its pretty obvious that they censored it for the attention.

The radio has never been shy to banning songs that they thought where unsuitable, I believe one of Alanis Morisettes songs got banned from air completely rather than censored, and that was in the 90's, when nobody even mentioned the term 'politically correct'.

If it was a new song then I may feel more compelled to say it is just a simple censorship and perhaps a PC issue, but when the song is an old favourite at xmas time, I just get the impression that its to attract attention to the radio station. Only no publicity is bad publicity.

WillowTheWhisp 18-12-2007 22:02

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But Radio 1 wasn't the only one to censor it - and it's not as if the song needs publicity.

steeljack 19-12-2007 00:04

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Does this also mean that the BBC will no longer be "beeping" out the name of Guy Gibsons dog whenever they show the original Dambusters film ? :confused: :confused:

shillelagh 19-12-2007 00:27

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Havent listened to radio 1 for about 3 years might even be longer.

WillowTheWhisp 19-12-2007 08:33

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 505514)
Does this also mean that the BBC will no longer be "beeping" out the name of Guy Gibsons dog whenever they show the original Dambusters film ? :confused: :confused:


Did they actually DO that?


:rolleyes:

janet 19-12-2007 10:18

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It has always been a favourite Christmas song of mine, and always will be.
Radio 1 just trying to get publicity for a rubbish music station, in my opinion.

blazey 19-12-2007 10:51

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 505170)

Given that Radio 1 is generally aimed at a the teenage/college/uni market does this mean that todays youth are easily offended or is it because they pick up on anything not politically correct to create a storm ?

I dont know anyone who listens to radio one :p its all Rock FM and The Bee, though I dont mind radio 1 sometimes if theyre too busy yapping on the others.

beechy 19-12-2007 11:03

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 505336)
amazing what booze and fags does to ya!!......:eek:
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never thought you looked better panther :D

steeljack 19-12-2007 17:39

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 505559)
Did they actually DO that?

:rolleyes:

yep , it (the dog) was/is a black Lab. whose named sounded like digger , but began with a different letter :confused: :confused:

Eric 19-12-2007 18:45

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 505721)
yep , it (the dog) was/is a black Lab. whose named sounded like digger , but began with a different letter :confused: :confused:

But when you are off to flood the Nazi armaments factories the odd racial slur doesn't matter ... Thing is, when the movie first came out, the dog's name probably passed unnoticed, or if it was noticed, no one thought it racist. Maybe we can deconstruct the movie around "Nigger" the dog, and see the film as the last gasp of British Imperial Power ironically spending itself on the crushing of a rascist state. Some aspiring Ph.D. student could make a name for herself with that one:rolleyes::rolleyes:

panther 19-12-2007 18:49

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Originally Posted by beechy (Post 505588)
never thought you looked better panther :D

oh thankyou:thefinger:tongueout

blazey 19-12-2007 18:49

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Surely the dog was called Nigger in an affectionate way and so cant really be seen as being racist. After all, a name is just a name. Some people call their little girls Fanny, or their little boys Dick, should we just take it to mean the first thing we associate it with. I think we should be open minded about things like that.

steeljack 19-12-2007 19:16

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 505771)
But when you are off to flood the Nazi armaments factories the odd racial slur doesn't matter ... Thing is, when the movie first came out, the dog's name probably passed unnoticed, or if it was noticed, no one thought it racist. Maybe we can deconstruct the movie around "Nigger" the dog, and see the film as the last gasp of British Imperial Power ironically spending itself on the crushing of a rascist state. Some aspiring Ph.D. student could make a name for herself with that one:rolleyes::rolleyes:

just pointing out the fact that all the folks crying and whinging about the words to a song being censored are in all probability the same ones who would never use and raise holy hell if the dogs name was being used in any context .
:gooddog::gooddog:
um ....let me think ..what would Bono and Bob Geldorf say .....:confused: :confused:

:D :D

Eric 19-12-2007 19:33

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 505805)
just pointing out the fact that all the folks crying and whinging about the words to a song being censored are in all probability the same ones who would never use and raise holy hell if the dogs name was being used in any context .
:gooddog::gooddog:
um ....let me think ..what would Bono and Bob Geldorf say .....:confused: :confused:

:D :D

I don't think I was being serious ... although there is a thesis in the deconstructionist idea. Maybe if I get my self a cute little pot-bellied pig I could call it Moh .... oops, better quit while I am more or less ahead:D:D:D

WillowTheWhisp 19-12-2007 21:26

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I knew what the dog was called, just couldn't believe they would edit it out. It's silly. You can't change history.

andrewb 19-12-2007 21:40

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People listen to the radio?

steeljack 19-12-2007 21:42

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Originally Posted by Cyfr (Post 505858)
People listen to the radio?

yep, and some of us even listen to the wireless :D :D


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