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blazey 18-12-2007 21:57

The crib in Oswaldtwistle, near the Co-op
 
I think the council has been a bit inconsiderate with the Crib near the co-op. My brother recently started going out on his baby reins when we go to the shops rather than in his pram, and like all toddlers venturing outside for the first time he's into everything, and he wants to look in the crib every time we go to the co-op.

The problem is that the window is way too high, and he has to be lifted to see into the little shed to see the display. If he was in his pram it would be too much hassle to bother at all as we'd have to get him out and he'd kick up a fuss if we tried to put him back in.
How can the little ones enjoy a traditional aspect of xmas if they make things this way? Whoever decided to put it in a shed with the window that high clearly wasn't really considering visibility were they?!

lancsdave 18-12-2007 21:59

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 505440)
If he was in his pram it would be too much hassle to bother at all as we'd have to get him out and he'd kick up a fuss if we tried to put him back in.


With your parenting skills you should know how to deal with that :rolleyes:

blazey 18-12-2007 22:11

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 505441)
With your parenting skills you should know how to deal with that :rolleyes:

Need I mention the people complaining about 'buggy bays' on the bus? Surely with their high and mighty parenting skills they should be able to deal with that too :rolleyes:

Yolanda25 18-12-2007 22:14

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Nah blazey dont get confused, the bus is something we havent go control of but putting the child back in the pram we do, honest little young lady you need to learn a lot

WillowTheWhisp 18-12-2007 22:14

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How high is this window?

MargaretR 18-12-2007 22:17

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Glass below waist height would have to be toughened glass.
It is probably the way it is for safety/economy reasons

blazey 18-12-2007 22:18

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 505455)
How high is this window?

Well my brother tries to tiptoe to see into the window but at the height he can manage to get to without being lifted he'd only just manage to see the back of the shed, he wouldnt be able to see the ornaments at the bottom.

As for getting him back into the pram, I should point out that I am not the one left with putting him back into the pram every time he wants to look, my mum is seen as its her who normally takes him out during the week, and she has the same difficulties putting him back into the pram when he wants to walk, and I'm pretty sure my mother does just as good a job at parenting as everyone else on this forum.

Yolanda25 18-12-2007 22:19

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im sure she does so learn from her , it will come handy for when u have ur own

blazey 18-12-2007 22:21

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 505457)
Glass below waist height would have to be toughened glass.
It is probably the way it is for safety/economy reasons

The one in accrington goes down to the floor. If the council can provide one thing for one area and not another then its a poor do!

Speedy 18-12-2007 22:36

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I noticed that this morning, not only is the window way too high, its tiny. Walking past from a distance i thought it was just a shed, surely they could put something on the back wall to stop it looking so plain from a distance.

katex 18-12-2007 22:56

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No matter re. the sniping comments, think this is a constructive and valid point Blazey ..E-mail Councillor Britcliffe or Graham Jones (who intends to go on the Lights' committee next year) .. sure has been an oversight and will be taken on board.

cherokee 18-12-2007 23:34

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well if the hanging baskets are anything to go by then ossy should think itself lucky they even got a crib..
look how high they were and they still got destroyed ..

cashman 18-12-2007 23:58

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gotta say, i'm with blazey on this one,n if that dont suit some.:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:

cherokee 19-12-2007 00:16

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Originally Posted by cherokee (Post 505494)
well if the hanging baskets are anything to go by then ossy should think itself lucky they even got a crib..
look how high they were and they still got destroyed ..

OH AND FOR THE RECORD THAT AINT A STAB AT THE FOLKS IN OSSY .... IM AN OSSY LASS MYSELF .. ITS FOR THE MINDLESS CHAVS THAT DONT DESERVE OWT NICE..
I remember the crib used to be one big window and very festive . shame things have to change in such a way..

blazey 19-12-2007 03:16

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Well I have to say that the location isn't the best anyway if we take into account that its the local 'hang out' area for the chavs in particular other than the rhyddings street memorial, but there isn't anywhere else particularly suitable for it that comes to mind.

I dont want to come across as a highly religious person, because I'm not particularly, but I think its sad that one of first symbols of a religion that children can appreciate is not given the visibility it deserves, nor are they given a chance to appreciate it properly.

Chavs might not appreciate flowers and hanging baskets, but I have never witnessed the naticity display being vandalised or neglected, not even a scribble of graffiti on it.

If the glass is an issue, fine, but I wouldve thought that could be solved by shatter proof plastic, or even a slightly raised bench fixed to the floor for the little ones to stand one, and the display inside raised by putting it on a table or something, but to put the window so high up and the display so low down is just a bit too thoughtless in my opinion, and needless to say, a pointless display. Who thinks up of a display that you cant see from a distance, that if you're a child you have to be lifted up to look down on it?

Ber999T 19-12-2007 04:35

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Blazey when I worked on the buses the crib was outside the Library and got wrecked at least once a year.

Where it is situated now there is a CCTV across the road and I dare say the Op's have been told to scan that on a regular basis.

But they have to see them and then hope that a police patrol is nearby if anything happens

WillowTheWhisp 19-12-2007 08:36

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I haven't seen it but from your description it does sound a bit odd. I'm sure with some thought the council could come up with a better alternative.

blazey 19-12-2007 10:45

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Originally Posted by Ber999T (Post 505538)
Blazey when I worked on the buses the crib was outside the Library and got wrecked at least once a year.

Where it is situated now there is a CCTV across the road and I dare say the Op's have been told to scan that on a regular basis.

But they have to see them and then hope that a police patrol is nearby if anything happens

Well I've never seen it vandalised in the amount of time lived in Oswaldtwistle, my entire teenage years, and from the perspective of the youth, i've got to say that I've never witnessed anyone in my age group vandalise the nativity scene.

panther 19-12-2007 18:34

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it looks like a bloody shed to me!!

matches the rubbish tree too....hyndburn council ya should be ashamed of yourself!!

flashy 19-12-2007 19:11

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ok what about the lights in ossy? went through tonight on the bus and the 'candles' look like mens genitals :D

blazey 19-12-2007 19:15

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 505798)
ok what about the lights in ossy? went through tonight on the bus and the 'candles' look like mens genitals :D

thats just your filthy mind

flashy 19-12-2007 19:16

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no blazey seriously they do lol

panther 19-12-2007 19:16

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 505798)
ok what about the lights in ossy? went through tonight on the bus and the 'candles' look like mens genitals :D

LOL.....im gonna have to have a look next time i pass.....flashy ya got a dirty mind...lol:rolleyes:

flashy 19-12-2007 19:29

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 505807)
LOL.....im gonna have to have a look next time i pass.....flashy ya got a dirty mind...lol:rolleyes:


lol i HAVENT they really do, look at them from a distance and they do :D

BERNADETTE 19-12-2007 19:32

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 505817)
lol i HAVENT they really do, look at them from a distance and they do :D

Is it not your hormones playing up?:p

flashy 19-12-2007 19:33

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 505820)
Is it not your hormones playing up?:p



well Richards been at work the last 4 days so probably ;)

BERNADETTE 19-12-2007 19:36

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 505822)
well Richards been at work the last 4 days so probably ;)

Thought as much;)

emamum 19-12-2007 19:58

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where is this???????

WillowTheWhisp 19-12-2007 20:08

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Maybe it IS a shed. Happen they got it from B&Q.

mallard 19-12-2007 20:31

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Well this is why they won,t put the crib back it ashame because it was good but now there are to menny yob,s about and they damage everything thats why there is cambra,s up there but i think it still going to be as bad as it s alwayy been up there and till they get them who do it and find them i think it will stay the same up there.

Lilly 19-12-2007 21:40

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 505583)
Well I've never seen it vandalised in the amount of time lived in Oswaldtwistle, my entire teenage years, and from the perspective of the youth, i've got to say that I've never witnessed anyone in my age group vandalise the nativity scene.

This crib that we have now is a new one this year. The old one was badly damaged by vandals last year. It was in the paper. All the front of the crib was smashed open and all the figures taken out and thrown all over the ground so that they too smashed to pieces. :(

Madhatter 22-12-2007 02:09

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Bring back public flogging, cctv is great but they know if they are caught they'll get a holiday to disneyland out of it.

WillowTheWhisp 22-12-2007 06:50

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 505859)
This crib that we have now is a new one this year. The old one was badly damaged by vandals last year. It was in the paper. All the front of the crib was smashed open and all the figures taken out and thrown all over the ground so that they too smashed to pieces. :(

I saw some of the damaged figures being restored and although they were chipped they weren't smashed to pieces. Some did need a bit of restructuring and then all of them needed touching up with paint. I haven't seen the finished result but it's a shame to have them inside a shed with a window so high they can hardly be seen. Even if it is a new one surely it could have been made like the one in Accy (which also had restoration work done on the figures) so that children can see in. Must try to get round there over Christmas and have a look at the thing.

WillowTheWhisp 30-12-2007 15:42

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I have now finally been to see this shed, er crib. Clearly the figures are not the ones which I saw being restored as these are much smaller and quite clearly brand new. Perhaps the restoration just didn't result in something which was able to be put on display. With these ones being so small why couldn't they have been put on a raised platform like the ones in Blackburn market? A star or something on the outside of the shed wouldn't have gone amiss and a bit of a 'hillside around Bethlehem' scene on the back wall. There is absolutely nothing to indicate that this is a crib. It just looks like the Co-op have taken to selling sheds.

panther 30-12-2007 17:55

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at least the floor looks nice!..;)

derekgas 30-12-2007 18:13

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Originally Posted by Madhatter (Post 506402)
Bring back public flogging, cctv is great but they know if they are caught they'll get a holiday to disneyland out of it.

Oh Yes! Bring it on. :pnowink:

WillowTheWhisp 30-12-2007 18:14

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Here's the inside of the shed. :D

Acrylic-bob 30-12-2007 18:33

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And this is put on display by the council which is sooooo anxious to encourage tourism in the borough. Clueless. Absolutely bluddy clueless!

garinda 30-12-2007 18:57

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 509926)
And this is put on display by the council which is sooooo anxious to encourage tourism in the borough. Clueless. Absolutely bluddy clueless!

What were you expecting?

Thee wise men form HBC?

We should count ourselves lucky to have an ass.

katex 30-12-2007 20:05

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Seen the one in Barnes Square, Clayton-le-Moors over last few days .. lovely ... down to the floor which looks like some sort of laminated glass. Doesn't seem to be a problem, particularly as youngsters hang out here most nights. So, in my opinion, get it right you Osssie.

blazey 01-01-2008 01:59

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The one at the bottom of dill hall lane looks lovely, though i've only passed in the car so didnt get chance to have a proper look, and I probably wont get chance to see it til next year now!


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