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Ber999T 20-12-2007 05:59
May She live long and prosper
 
BBC NEWS | UK | Queen reaches oldest monarch mark

The Queen will reach a new milestone when she overtakes Queen Victoria to become the oldest British monarch.

cashman 20-12-2007 08:33
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as shes one of the few in the royal household that actually works for the country,i hope she makes it.

WillowTheWhisp 20-12-2007 08:46
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So do I, and hope that she passes Victoria's other milestone too - but that makes me feel very old because I always used to think of Victoria as having reigned impossibly long and yet I was alive when our present Queen was crowned! http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/i...milies/eek.gif

Eric 20-12-2007 10:01
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I saw her coronation on TV. A great Queen ... a model for all heads of state.

Eric 20-12-2007 10:02
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By the way, in case anyone doesn't know it, she is also Queen of Canada.

jambutty 20-12-2007 17:40
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Well she’s not my queen.

It is high time that the monarchy and the aristocracy that goes with it was ditched and the land owned by them was given back to the people it was stolen from.

Imagine, no lords and dukes etc. No government sleaze in granting peerages.

The monarchy and all the hangers on are a parasite on decent folk struggling to make a decent living.

There should be no monarchy whilst we have one single person living on the streets, the mentally afflicted struggling to survive in a society that is alien to them, old people not getting the medical treatment that they need or having to wait months and even years before help comes their way. People are literally dying to get into hospitals.

And don’t give me that washed up argument that the monarchy is great for the tourist industry. I doubt if one tourist in ten thousand actually sees any of them. Even if they manage it, it will only be a glimpse in a carriage or car or balcony somewhere. In any case the tourists come to see the buildings, mainly from the outside, so whether we have a monarch leech or not it will not affect the tourist figures. The building will still be there and if opened to the public would at least earn enough for their upkeep instead of being yet another burden on the tax payer.

Monarchy! Bah!

BERNADETTE 20-12-2007 17:59
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I think she does a sterling job for the country. Long may she stay as Our Queen

mallard 20-12-2007 18:01
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Yes i saw it on the new,s my self and i think it is something to be proud of and i think its the only one that dose her job right.

shillelagh 20-12-2007 19:24
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If you look Jambutty there is only one official residence that is closed to visitors and that is St James Palace, all the rest open for the public to visit at least 3 days a year.
The Royal Residences > About the Royal Residences

cashman 20-12-2007 19:42
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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 506029)
If you look Jambutty there is only one official residence that is closed to visitors and that is St James Palace, all the rest open for the public to visit at least 3 days a year.
The Royal Residences > About the Royal Residences
3 days a year pmsl, us n the tourists havent a bloody clue when those days are:confused: fat lot of good,springs to mind.:rolleyes:

flashy 20-12-2007 19:57
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good for her, i cant really say i take much notice of the monarchy, but hey whatever floats yer boat :D

Lilly 20-12-2007 20:54
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I have a lot of time for the Queen. I think that she is a hard worker and is devoted to her role as Sovereign.

lancashire lad 20-12-2007 21:46
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Well said Jam But.
What has she ever dun for me?

katex 20-12-2007 22:29
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Long live Her Majesty the Queen, says I .. :p

lancashire lad 20-12-2007 22:34
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As the Sex Pistols said in 77... God save the Queen. There is no future , and Englands dreeming...

katex 20-12-2007 23:00
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Originally Posted by lancashire lad (Post 506072)
As the Sex Pistols said in 77... God save the Queen. There is no future , and Englands dreeming...
Well, they had long qualifications to make such a statement, didn't they !

Made a good living outta' their insult and England. !!

cashman 20-12-2007 23:04
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Originally Posted by lancashire lad (Post 506072)
As the Sex Pistols said in 77... God save the Queen. There is no future , and Englands dreeming...
not overkeen on royalty but it has more future than the sex pistols:D

Ber999T 21-12-2007 06:19
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When you look at what the Royal family do with bringing tourists to this country because of all the pomp and ceremony that our economy would be as good as it is!!!

jambutty 21-12-2007 07:50
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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 506029)
If you look Jambutty there is only one official residence that is closed to visitors and that is St James Palace, all the rest open for the public to visit at least 3 days a year.
The Royal Residences > About the Royal Residences
Meaning that for 362/3 days a year the buildings are NOT open to the public.

jambutty 21-12-2007 07:53
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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 506049)
I have a lot of time for the Queen. I think that she is a hard worker and is devoted to her role as Sovereign.
The queen wouldn’t know a hard day’s work if it smacked her in the gob.

She, her family and the hanger on parasites are a total waste of time.

Lilly 21-12-2007 20:51
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 506140)
The queen wouldn’t know a hard day’s work if it smacked her in the gob.

She, her family and the hanger on parasites are a total waste of time.
I've got to disagree. I think the Queen works very hard. All her public engagements for a start and there will be an awful lot of other jobs we don't know about that she does as Head of State.

I agree that there are several hangers on and the civil list needs cutting down but I'm sure that the Queen herself is worthy of being on it. :)

grannyclaret 21-12-2007 23:59
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...GOD SAVE OUR QUEEN...
....LONG MAY SHE REIGN.....

shillelagh 22-12-2007 00:09
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The civil list the people on it are The queen and Prince Phillip, how can you cut the list down further?

Other than The Queen, The Duke of Edinburgh is the only member of the Royal Family to receive an annual parliamentary allowance to enable him to carry out official public duties supporting The Queen.

Since 1993, The Queen has repaid to the Treasury the annual parliamentary allowances received by other members of the Royal Family.
(That has come from the monarchy website)

shillelagh 22-12-2007 00:19
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 506140)
The queen wouldn’t know a hard day’s work if it smacked her in the gob.

She, her family and the hanger on parasites are a total waste of time.

The Monarchy Today > How the Monarchy works > The Queen's working day

Have a read jambutty

WillowTheWhisp 22-12-2007 07:34
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I wouldn't want to work like she does at her age anyway that's for sure.

jambutty 22-12-2007 10:05
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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 506398)
Why?

When the queen struggles to work every morning on overcrowded roads and then struggles back home on the same overcrowded roads and struggles to find the mortgage/rent payment every month and waits months for a hospital appointment and has to make the choice of keeping warm or buying food, then I will concede that she works hard. Until then she and her lot are just parasites.

She carries on as head of state for purely selfish reasons WillowTheWhisp. She wants to go down in history as the oldest and longest reigning monarch in the world.

***--- ABOLISH THE MONARCHY AND ARISTOCRATS ---***

***--- GIVE THE LAND THAT HER FOREBEARS STOLE
FROM THE PEOPLE BACK TO THE PEOPLE ---***

Lilly 22-12-2007 16:56
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 506432)
Why?

When the queen struggles to work every morning on overcrowded roads and then struggles back home on the same overcrowded roads and struggles to find the mortgage/rent payment every month and waits months for a hospital appointment and has to make the choice of keeping warm or buying food, then I will concede that she works hard. Until then she and her lot are just parasites.
That's never going to happpen though, is it? She can't help being born into her role, a role she never would have had to take if her uncle hadn't abdicated. She's always done her best. She's never going to have to queue for her pension or wait for a hospital appointment like us because she's the Queen and she's never experienced poverty but she can't help that.

Poverty is hard work and the Queen has her every need catered for so she wouldn't know much about that but that doesn't mean that she doesn't work hard as Head of State with her engagements, meetings etc.

Lilly 22-12-2007 17:01
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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 506394)
The civil list the people on it are The queen and Prince Phillip, how can you cut the list down further?

Other than The Queen, The Duke of Edinburgh is the only member of the Royal Family to receive an annual parliamentary allowance to enable him to carry out official public duties supporting The Queen.

Since 1993, The Queen has repaid to the Treasury the annual parliamentary allowances received by other members of the Royal Family.
(That has come from the monarchy website)
Thanks Shillelagh. :)

I didn't realise that the Queen and Prince Phillip are the only ones on the civil list. What am I thinking of then? :confused:

I remember a big hoo hah a few years back when it was revealed how much money is claimed by some of those referred to as 'hangers on' with their grace and favour houses. Princess Michael of Kent was one and there were many others. :confused:

jambutty 22-12-2007 18:54
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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 506527)
That's never going to happpen though, is it? She can't help being born into her role, a role she never would have had to take if her uncle hadn't abdicated. She's always done her best. She's never going to have to queue for her pension or wait for a hospital appointment like us because she's the Queen and she's never experienced poverty but she can't help that.

Poverty is hard work and the Queen has her every need catered for so she wouldn't know much about that but that doesn't mean that she doesn't work hard as Head of State with her engagements, meetings etc.
No it is never going to happen, but that isn’t the point.

She knows as well as did her father, grandfather/mother before her that the privileged position that they hold/held was down to their forbears who killed and pillaged the land for that land to take possession of it. Some they gave away to ‘favourites’ for services rendered. Like boot licking. But the rest was kept for themselves and granted to off spring.

No death duties there. Yet we get clobbered if we leave a substantial amount of property to our off spring. A land owning farmer cannot leave his land to his son/daughter without losing a chunk of it to the state because of death duties.

If poverty is hard work and the queen has every need catered for then life must be a doddle.

Royalist sycophants always trot out the ‘she works hard’ excuse without defining what hard work is.

Hard work is getting up each and every morning (except holidays) at some ungodly hour, battling your way to work to spend some four hours at the desk, shop, factory or behind the wheel of a lorry etc, taking a break for a quick snack and then another four our stint working for a wage only marginally above the legal minimum, then battling your way home to do some housework before tumbling into bed exhausted.

I doubt if the queen has ever had a duster in her hand let alone loaded a washing machine and then ironed the contents.

Hard work! She doesn’t know the meaning of the word let alone actually done some.

Eric 22-12-2007 19:15
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Originally Posted by grannyclaret (Post 506392)
...GOD SAVE OUR QUEEN...
....LONG MAY SHE REIGN.....
I second that. How many other world leaders bring to their jobs the dedication, aherence to duty, and profound love of country that Queen Elizabeth does? Sure she's old fashioned and has a horrible taste in hats, but she stands for, and lives her life by, the values that so many on this forum decry the loss of.

jambutty 23-12-2007 13:20
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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 506592)
I second that. How many other world leaders bring to their jobs the dedication, aherence to duty, and profound love of country that Queen Elizabeth does? Sure she's old fashioned and has a horrible taste in hats, but she stands for, and lives her life by, the values that so many on this forum decry the loss of.
She’s not my queen and if you are relying on some mythical deity to save her then your case and cause is lost.

I’m old fashioned, I don’t wear hats and I would like to adopt the values that you claim that she lives by but I live in the real world where you have to bend with the wind or go under.



***--- ABOLISH THE MONARCHY AND ARISTOCRATS ---***



***--- GIVE THE LAND THAT HER FOREBEARS STOLE
FROM THE PEOPLE BACK TO THE PEOPLE ---***

Ber999T 23-12-2007 22:14
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well my son has just come back from iraq and he was out there for queen and country the monarchy i'm afraid is the only thing this country has that is respected by other nations lose that and we'll have no respect at all i take it jam butty didn't watch the monarchy the working royals lol i just hope my son's not doing iraq and stan in vain but i think he might be!!!! (bers partner heather)

garinda 23-12-2007 22:56
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She'll hang on until Camilla's popped her clogs, mark my words.

Not a monarchist.

Nice enough old woman, one of thousands in the country, many of whom have really worked their arses off, and all with the help of some liveried flunkey to squeeze their toothpaste onto the brush for them.

garinda 23-12-2007 23:04
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 506766)



***--- GIVE THE LAND THAT HER FOREBEARS STOLE

FROM THE PEOPLE BACK TO THE PEOPLE ---***
Which people though? The Celts? The Angles? The Saxons? The direct descendents of the acorn gathering druids?

Will we all get a little plot, like in Zimbabwe?:D

katex 23-12-2007 23:25
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 507098)
Which people though? The Celts? The Angles? The Saxons? The direct descendents of the acorn gathering druids?

Will we all get a little plot, like in Zimbabwe?:D
No Garinda, will probably be used to build housing for our immigrant friends.

If you look at the income these lands generate i.e. Duchy of Cornwall, then sure will be better left as it is in my opinion. Give back to the people ? As stated Garinda, that's a laugh innnit ?

Can't be assed to argue the point with Jambutty about the Queen, she has done the duty she was obliged to carry out in a professional and 'hardworking' way.

Jambutty appears to be envious of anyone that is not brought down to a downtrodden poverty existence, (which we do not lead in our country).

In my opinion, celebrities such as footballers, pop stars and actors who are paid ridiculous amounts of money and worshipped as the new Gods of Society are the new pseudo royalty, and have no idea now of what Jambutty describes as a 'real' job. How can they be paid more than a Head of State .. blooming madness.

Mr Aleks 24-12-2007 14:54
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Can anyone tell me why we have these scroungers?

Apart from money from tourism what do they actually do for us?

jambutty 24-12-2007 17:03
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Originally Posted by Ber999T (Post 507073)
well my son has just come back from iraq and he was out there for queen and country the monarchy i'm afraid is the only thing this country has that is respected by other nations lose that and we'll have no respect at all i take it jam butty didn't watch the monarchy the working royals lol i just hope my son's not doing iraq and stan in vain but i think he might be!!!! (bers partner heather)
Your son was out in the middle east Ber999T not for queen and country but because some despot dictator under the guise of democracy was pretending to be a world leader whilst hanging onto the Bush’s coat tails.

However I am extremely please that your son came home presumably safe and sound. Sadly hundreds have not. Nearly 200 killed and who knows how many with varying degrees of injuries only to be shabbily treated by the government. Which now has the effrontery to demand a 10% pay rise.

The UK is the laughing stock of Europe and many parts of the world where our European neighbours take advantage of us to their benefit.

You are darned right – I didn’t watch that monarchistic propaganda. But it just goes to show that the royalists are getting desperate to push the ‘how hard she works’ message to the nation.

jambutty 24-12-2007 17:08
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 507095)
She'll hang on until Camilla's popped her clogs, mark my words.

Not a monarchist.

Nice enough old woman, one of thousands in the country, many of whom have really worked their arses off, and all with the help of some liveried flunkey to squeeze their toothpaste onto the brush for them.
Please engage brain before putting fingers to keyboard.

You might get your message across.

jambutty 24-12-2007 17:31
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 507102)
No Garinda, will probably be used to build housing for our immigrant friends.

If you look at the income these lands generate i.e. Duchy of Cornwall, then sure will be better left as it is in my opinion. Give back to the people ? As stated Garinda, that's a laugh innnit ?

Can't be assed to argue the point with Jambutty about the Queen, she has done the duty she was obliged to carry out in a professional and 'hardworking' way.

Jambutty appears to be envious of anyone that is not brought down to a downtrodden poverty existence, (which we do not lead in our country).

In my opinion, celebrities such as footballers, pop stars and actors who are paid ridiculous amounts of money and worshipped as the new Gods of Society are the new pseudo royalty, and have no idea now of what Jambutty describes as a 'real' job. How can they be paid more than a Head of State .. blooming madness.
Once upon a time the Duchy of Cornwall belonged to the Cornish people but their land was raped and pillaged and given to some duke or other for services rendered to the crown.

A whole country, Wales, was given to the prince of the day as his domain and the people had no say in the matter.

I have never stated that the queen hasn’t done her job dutifully, but hard work – NEVER in a million years. You can’t equate what she does with a nurse in A & E, or a fireman or a member of the RNLI or even a mother who stays at home to look after the kids.

It’s not envy katex but injustice that gets up my nose. So I agree with you about footballers, pop and film stars. At least it was the public who put them where they are by paying the exorbitant fees to attend a match or buying the records and watching the films and at least the public were entertained by the ‘stars’. The public did not put the monarchy in place, it was imposed on them by force.

Some fifty years ago the top footballers, like Stanley Matthews, were capped at £20 per week with a small win bonus if they won the match but no bonus if the match was lost. All footballers had regular full time jobs – plumbers, painters, carpenters, builders, electricians and so on so that when their football career came to an end they would have a trade to fall back on.

Ber999T 24-12-2007 18:10
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Thanks for the good wishes about the lad and yes he is home safe and sound (but did have a few scarry moments while out there) and we heard some of the bombs exploding when he had chance to ring home.

The Royal family have not been enforced on to us as they used to have total power before the civil war.

WillowTheWhisp 24-12-2007 21:16
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 506585)

Hard work is getting up each and every morning (except holidays) at some ungodly hour, battling your way to work to spend some four hours at the desk, shop, factory or behind the wheel of a lorry etc, taking a break for a quick snack and then another four our stint working for a wage only marginally above the legal minimum, then battling your way home to do some housework before tumbling into bed exhausted.

I doubt if the queen has ever had a duster in her hand let alone loaded a washing machine and then ironed the contents.
There are plenty of working people don't spend 8 hours a day working and who do have proper lunch breaks. There are also working people who employ cleaners to do their housework and have never pushed a vacuum cleaner or held a duster. Because they pay someone else to do that- and that gives someone else a job. The Royal Family have many employees. Would you want them to be out of work?

garinda 24-12-2007 23:29
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Originally Posted by Aleks (Post 507275)
Apart from money from tourism what do they actually do for us?
Would that be different from money that's brought in from tourism in a country like France, which hasn't had a monarchy for over two hundred years, and where you get to look round all the rooms in their former royal palaces, not just a few shabby ones for fifteen quid?

grannyclaret 24-12-2007 23:30
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MERRY XMAS TO OUR LOVELY QUEEN
http://d21c.com/AnnesPlace/Xmas4/SnoSant2.gif

Wynonie Harris 24-12-2007 23:53
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Bloomin' 'eck, Granny. and there's me thinking you were a Labour-supporting socialist!

garinda 24-12-2007 23:58
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 507312)
Please engage brain before putting fingers to keyboard.

You might get your message across.

Message came across loud and clear, to anyone with their brain engaged.

I'm a republican, but bear no personal malice to the old girl. However I would have more respect for an eighty odd year old woman who had been elected head of state.

katex 25-12-2007 00:09
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 507323)
You can’t equate what she does with a nurse in A & E, or a fireman or a member of the RNLI or even a mother who stays at home to look after the kids.
Know I am going to get slated for this remark Jambutty, but we all have our slots in life and why do you suppose that a nurse or a firemen is more important than a dustbinman or an insurance clerk ? Only because they are dealing in human lives rather than human resources who make more life more comfortable, bearable and sustainable econimically to our race to survive!

My daughter is a highly qualified nurse, and has saved many a life in her time, but never considerd her job any more important than my own job as sales in a textile industry helping to support employment for our people, to sustain a decent life style.

As is Her Majesty's, promoting the face of the U.K., which she does without faltering. We have to use every talent we have, emergency services are just part of the whole picture and should not be put on pedestals above all other segments of the equation.

Eric 25-12-2007 06:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 507521)
Message came across loud and clear, to anyone with their brain engaged.

I'm a republican, but bear no personal malice to the old girl. However I would have more respect for an eighty odd year old woman who had been elected head of state.
But in a sense she is elected. She did get her position by the chance of birth, but she retains it with the consent of the people. If a majority of voting English people were moblilised to get rid of the monarchy surely it would be done. There are no doubt millions in England who would be happy to see the end of the monarchy, or who don't give a s***. But there are probably more millions who wish to see it retained. (This may be because of the character of the present Queen; and it could change after her death.)There seems to be a lot of the democratic in the monarchy.:confused:

jambutty 25-12-2007 09:29
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Nice enough old woman, one of thousands in the country, many of whom have really worked their arses off, and all with the help of some liveried flunkey to squeeze their toothpaste onto the brush for them.
I don’t know what sort of English you are using garinda but that sentence reads that thousands of hard workers have a liveried flunky to squeeze their toothpaste. Now if you had written ‘all WITHOUT’ then it would have made sense.

Why are you putting words into my mouth katex? I never stated anything about nurses etc. being more important than dustbinmen etc. My quoted selection of jobs was meant to represent all jobs compared to the pseudo job done by the queen.

Oh! I get it! You haven’t got a bona fide example to make to back up your claim so you try to twist what other people state to deflect their point.

In no sense whatsoever was the monarchy elected Eric. She retains her outdated position not with the consent of the people but because the people do not have a means of kicking her out short of using force. There are fewer pro royals than there are anti and couldn’t give a Tinker’s cuss royals.

I have nothing against her personally, my beef is against the institution and what it represents. I am a citizen of the UK (England) not a subject of the monarchy.

garinda 25-12-2007 10:14
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 507569)

I am a citizen of the UK (England) not a subject of the monarchy.
Strange choice of phrase, 'UK'.

United Kingdom.

'Kingdom'.

Strange place for a supposed republican to say he's from.:eek:

I'm English first, British second, and come the revolution the name United Kingdom will be consigned to the history books.:D

jambutty 25-12-2007 11:01
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 507587)
Strange choice of phrase, 'UK'.

United Kingdom.

'Kingdom'.

Strange place for a supposed republican to say he's from.:eek:

I'm English first, British second, and come the revolution the name United Kingdom will be consigned to the history books.:D
Considering that the whole world knows these islands are called the United Kingdom it is not so strange. It’s like calling a spade a spade.

Go on you can have the last facetious word on this Xmas Day. I have much better things to do than to pander to your nit picking.

garinda 25-12-2007 17:32
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 507598)
Considering that the whole world knows these islands are called the United Kingdom it is not so strange. It’s like calling a spade a spade.

Go on you can have the last facetious word on this Xmas Day. I have much better things to do than to pander to your nit picking.
I refer to this sceptred isle as Great Britain, and not the eighteenth century name which, came about by the union of royal kingdoms, which as a republican I prefer to ignore.

As for the last word, it's terribly sweet of you, but I need no-one's permission to claim that.:)

garinda 25-12-2007 17:47
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Happily I take after my great uncle, Joe Aspinall. When he was Chairman (Mayor) of Oswaldtwistle District Council in the '60's, he had to go to a garden party at Buckingham Palace, and as a staunch republican and socialist, refused to stand for the National Anthem, as the Queen arrived.

Forty years later I was at a concert at the Barbican in London. It was announced that would we all rise for her Royal Highness Princess Michael of Kent.

Er...yeah right.

She was sat in the row in front of us, and I was the only one to remain seated as the Austrian/Australian former hairdresser took her royal seat.

As I sat there, I knew Uncle Joe would be looking proudly down at me.:D

WillowTheWhisp 26-12-2007 10:12
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I thought Great Britain only meant England, Scotland and Wales and that to include N. Ireland you have to say United Kingdom, as in "the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland."


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