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As anybody been watching that?
i dont know about you lot but i had to turn it over when the little animals walked thier last walk down that aisle.....killing them baby animals...........i just couldnt watch it, if i did it would have put me off my bacon sarnie:(

and then watch it bein ripped open then cooked, and then having to eat it after.....:eek:.......i couldnt do it...could you?

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and whats for breakfast tomorrow morning

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i used to work in a few slaughterhouses, i havent got a problem with it, the one thing i do find strange about veggies, a lot of them keep pets, and feed them meat, well 1 of the places i used to work many moons ago was a pet food place and they dont have any of the same restrictions as human consumption

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yep, I could. I have no qualms about it. I know where that meat in my tea comes from.

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I couldn't do it, the last time I watched something like that I went veggie for 8 years!

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thats why i didnt watch it, i love my meat:rolleyes: plus im squeamish:o

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i wouldnt be able to watch anything like that it would be to up setting.

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the round up of the week is on now on bbc3

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Not sure if I could do it... but then again if it was a case of survival then it may well be a different matter.

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no one on this planet would want to eat my feet they would be scared they WOULDN'T survive :p

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im watching it now, and ive been watching every night, it does sadden you to see them being killed but it is done in a humane way

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its explaing about all they have killed in the last few nights it must be last one tonight bbc3 if anyones interested

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dont bother me at all, me first job, at 15 yrs was a butcher.:)

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Didn't see this one but I did watch the programme presented by Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall with Jamie Oliver .....did anyone else watch that?

He was highlighting the case of battery chickens. 2500 live chickens were crammed into a shed for 39 days and fed constantly to reach target weight. The ones that failed to reach target weight were killed even though there was nothing wrong with them.

Male chicks, which are not profitable because they do not lay eggs, were put into a chamber and gassed.....quite unpleasant to watch but interesting to learn what goes on.

The shed stank of wee and poo and the chickens had what were referred to as 'hock burns' on their legs. This happens when the bird cannot bear the weight of its own body due to overfeeding so sits down with no room to move. The bird is sitting in wee and poo all the time and this burns through the flesh leaving these red burn marks....all so the supermarkets can sell chickens at two for a fiver. :mad:

I'm not vegetarian but I do like to know that the animal produce that I consume has been treated humanely whilst alive, even though they are bred for slaughter if you know what I mean.

I buy free range eggs and free range chicken. The programme said that battery eggs and anything using battery eggs as an ingredient would be banned by 2012 and I hope they are.

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watched the last series of this and caught the last ten mins of the piglets other night
Dont know why but i couldnt have watched the piglet one from the start cus they were only 6 weeks . but the others ... cow , pigs , sheep , chickens etc have never bothered me . but when i tuned in other night and discovered the piglets i just couldnt watch .
dunno why:confused:

Must say though we do have a very humane way and if every slaughter house lives by the law then our animals feel very little . compared to other countries and the old days even in this country

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I saw the program and having worked in an abattoir in before now packing meat the sight of blood in general didn't bother me, although I did find it an intresting programme

It was the slitting of the throat that got me though and the look of the animals head as it was hanging, but apparently once stuned they can't feel a thing thats it nowt, which is obviously a relief.

It hasn't put me off eating meat as I like it, but I was glad to hear that in Britain they are looked after properly as was said on the programme as I wouldn't like to see an animal suffer just for the sake of it.

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thought it was a fascinating programme to watch, from the first stage to the dinner plate...I dont know why folk get sqeemish about it all - how many folk on here eat meat ?..where did they think it all comes from ? - its not born in a wrapper...I dont have any problem with it..

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i`ve been finding all the recent programmes that have gone behind the scenes of food produce very interesting and enlightening, i`ve been a veggie for 18 years but the wife will be buying organic chicken from now on! one thing i never thought about was the use of battery eggs as in gredients, suppose its all down to cost, at least hellmans mayonaise are starting using free range eggs in the products from february.:egged:

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I watch it often, so far ive watched the young pigs, veal, kid goat. I wouldn't eat meat if I couldn't accept the way it was killed, but the only thing I found hard to see was how far they hacked into the calves neck, but at the end of the day, I enjoy eating it and I'd be a hypocrite if I couldn't bear watching how it was killed and complain about it.

If there werent butchers and slaughtermen and women to do it for us then we'd have to do it ourselves. All I have got out of the programme is a great appreciation for those people, because its quite a gruesome job, particularly the actually slitting of the throat anyway.

Nothing that I didn't expect on the show, nothing that I could say made me want to cry or be upset, just the throat slashing that I find a bit stomach churning, but I think after several viewings of the show I'm getting used to it, so its not that bad.

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I have no problem with buying the 'cheaper' products either, although if I have enough money whilst I'm shopping I tend to opt for the free range. Being a student I am on a tight budget, but I dont mind paying a bit more for eggs, and meat I tend to get from the butchers as its local produce as are alot of the eggs in the local spar, plus the markets here tend to use local produce aswell thats been kept well, as alot of people tend to ask now.

I think the government is changing its attitude towards battery farming as the publics attitude is changing and there is a greater demand for free range. Hopefully the laws will continue to change and eventually outlaw battery farming and the government will give greater consideration to free range farmers. I think economic values are what has kept the laws from changing, but as people are buying their food with ethical values in mind now instead, the government will hopefully take that into consideration.

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Thing is Blazey, if we all went for free range, the production could not keep up with the demand, due to lack of land.

Same with vegetarianism, if we all suddenly became vegetarian, again, there would be a shortage of land suitable for growing crops to feed us all.

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It takes more land to feed animals than it does to raise crops of equivalent food value. I have read somewhere (will find it if you require me to) that if all pasture land was used for food crops - no-one in the world would starve

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There is alot of land wasted in the world aswell, and I dont believe for a second that there isn't a way to produce enough food to feed everyone without battery farms, because battery farms can't have been existance for that long, from what I can find they are a 20th century creation.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7180018.stmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7180018.stm

Theres the ban on battery eggs that is going to eventually happen across the EU.

It is 1 step towards many so I guess if you are right katex we should prepare to starve. Or move out of the EU countries, i'm sure america would never outlaw it.

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Did anyone watch the baby lambs getting slaughtered and the first one that they tried to shock it didnt work and the slaughterman turned his back to the camera and used the stun gun instead (and they used it there after) but why did that happen in the first place??? Are there no pre checks done on the equipment to make sure its working correctly?

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what i would like to know is how do they know they cant feel anything after being stunned!, have they tested it on themselves.....?, i think not

and why is there different killing methods for different animals?

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cos some animals are much bigger n others.:) you could kill a mouse with a slug gun, but not a cow.:D

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I imagine neurologists would be able to check for brain signals in an animal after it has been shocked and see if it is feeling pain and feels pain when its throat is slit. It can't be that complicated with todays technology.

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well you would know wouldnt ya:rolleyes:.....you being so clever an all:rolleyes:

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That just sounds like a jealous jibe, which is pretty pathetic.

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jealous..... me???.............:rofl38:
:lol:.........you on drugs?!!:mosher:

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well you come out with alot of nasty comments relating to me being a student. What exactly where you doing at my age?

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working if ya must know, you wouldnt know though ya was only about 1 or 2yrs.....so come come out with some bull****!

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oooooooooooo handbags at dawn ;)

come on ladies quit the bitchin ;)

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me bitchin.........never....lol, i havent even started............yet;)

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HAHAHAHAHAHA:D

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A few days at Pontins doesn't count. I've never even seen you with a job in the whole 18yrs I've known you.

What went wrong?

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i worked somewhere else ya daft cow, you know nowt!!

oh and i had kids,......so dont even go there!!

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Yes blame the children for your failures.

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who said iv failed??
im a failure cuz i dont work.....get a life chelle....LOL

my kids are everything to me and i wouldnt change a single thing!!

what have you got...............????

go away........and dont come back!!......lol.failure....lol

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oh how your making me laugh, i have a stitch in my fat tummy now :D

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I have my freedom, my education, my home, my youth... just to name a few.

Also children are fabulous to stay at home for when they're at school, but what happens when they grow up and you haven't worked for 20 years and everythings well past your experience? Do you stay at home and home they have grandchildren and just live for them instead?

What will be your legacy?

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just be careful blazey, there are quite a few 'stay at home mums' on accyweb...is this going to turn out to be another 'i hate fat people' thread?

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when my kids grow up ill be probably in my forties then........life begins at 40........bring it on!!!!:theband::tongueout:drunk::thefinger

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Yeh my mum stays at home at the moment, but she worked for a good part of my life and will do so again when my younger brother is at school.

Only there is a stark difference between her and most stay at home mothers.

And now I've said enough.

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wow you've said enough? my god


my goodness how off topic has this thread gone

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And it wasn't me who took it off topic either, it was comments about my education that took it off topic. Not my problem if she cant accept information off someone without making nasty comments about it.

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as anyone ever tasted venison?

if so whats it taste like, iv never seen any in the shops

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can't afford it, it's dear :D

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they have horse meat in Belgium, dont fancy it myself though

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HAHAHAHAH......:rolleyes::tongueout

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It is very dark strong flavour which can vary from like strong flavour beef(nice) and nasty 'off' game taste. It depends what type of deer it was and whether it fed on grass or pine needles.

I got some from Asda a few months ago -was the nasty version - got binned.
I used to eat it regularly 30 yrs ago, but then I had whole carcasses delivered and prepared it myself for home freezing - knew what it had eaten by the food remains in the ribcage. (It had been skinned deheaded and gutted before delivery - I don't think I would have coped with it otherwise).

That was a time when I was married to that nutter half-Iti, who wouldn't eat beef, lamb or pork, and insisted on wild meat only. The other wild meat we ate, were mallard duck and pheasant which can only be got in the game season and needed a seperate 10ft freezer to store a years supply. (which is a further demonstration of how I let that nut case control my life -grr :mad:)

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iv tried duck, that was kinda dry of what i can remember.....i was drunk when i ate it:rolleyes:

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i'm surprised he didnt want you to go out and catch pigeons Margaret ;)

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we had duck the other week, it was awfully fatty, cant say that i liked it

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stringy too i think it was....:p

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when i was cooking it i put it on a rack on top of the glass dish i was cooking it in, the amount of fat that dripped off it was horrible

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lol when did you turn into yoda?

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Duck breast fillets from supermarkets are nice roasted- only get tough if overcooked - put crumpled tinfoil under them so they dont sit in the fat while roasting. They are not like the wild mallard ducks which have no fat.

PS as for pidgeons - Quail are similar and are farmed in the Ribble valley and can be got all year round - have eaten wild wood pidgeon

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IM not sure where your coming from on this!! i do voluntary work at my kids school and im a stay at home mum, education is one of the things you can do anytime in your life, even after 20 yrs of being at home,you say you have your freedom education and home, who is paying for all this ? (just a question) and do you work?

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I dont do any paid work, as I think Neil said, the Poles take them all so we can't find work, and technically I pay for it as I pay it back with interest when I am earning I certain amount of money.

My mum is a stay at home mum, what I'm saying is that SHE isn't the type of stay at home mum I approve of. And yes there are different types.

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I wonder if thats what i had:confused:, all i know i had it at a cantonese restaurant:D

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Ducks are bred in captivity too and eat the same stuff as chickens and get fat. Wild birds eat natural stuff and don't get fat (same as humans that way :) )

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Whilst you have brought it up, are there battery farms for ducks? I guess Bernard Matthews probably has a battery farm for turkey, but I have never heard of anyone doing the same with ducks.

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http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...6/ai_n14275413
Birds
Animal Liberation Front Rescue Ducks from Factory Farm Misery | aucklandanimalaction.org.nz
They do

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Hmm, i have never eaten duck, but I didnt realise they were demanded enough to produce them like that.

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I would imagine over here there isnt as much demand as there is in the oriental countries, i myself am not too keen on duck and venison is a bit rich, in the land next to us they have shooting parties where they shoot game on private land, its unfair but it keeps the numbers down, well according to them

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Wild meat does taste better than farmed meat most of the time.
Like any meat animal - the taste depends on what IT ate, and whether it had stress in its lifetime.