who represents Hyndburn 9Accrington and district) in Europe
 

ok , Britcliffe seems to be the 'godfather' of the local council and Greg Pope is the local M.P. but who is the local represenative in Brussels/Strasburg ? just curious since I have never seen any mention of this person and it seems more and more decisions are coming from Europe , is this person a user of "accy web" ?
just wondering , thanks :confused: :confused:

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I may be wrong but I dont believe there is a representative for every single district for international conferences...

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I found this
MEPs are elected on a regional basis which means that
each MEP in a region represents each and every person
living there. In June 2004 the people of the North West
elected nine members to the European Parliament
here-
European Parliament UK Office - UK MEPs
I have never heard of their involvement in any local issues

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I think, and perhaps someone else in the Labour party can confirm it, that the representative that covers our area is Gary Titley.

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I'm not a labour party member but their website does confirm it :)

Who is my Labour MEP?

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Confirmed, he gave a talk at college last year :D

One of the most pro European Union people I've met

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think his names very apt if its europe he represents.:D

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Gary Traitor would be more apt.

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You've exported your goverment to Brussels and are paying through the nose for it. I read this week that the House of Commons voted to increase hugely the amount Britain pays to the EU. Add to this the extra money you must shell out for the EU's crazy regulations and quotas....which push up prices for food, energy bills and petrol. All of these things impact negatively on your way of life.

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I don't always agree with you, but this time you've hit the nail right on the head. What makes me laugh (in a cynical sort of way) is that you get so many people on here talking about how proud they are to be British/English and how they love their country. Wake up...you're part of the United States of Europe! And Gordon Brown didn't even give you a vote on it!

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and i bet you they had some impact in the rules that cancelled the stanley game today.the pitch was playable and remember them orange balls they used to play with when it snowed.:rolleyes:

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Ok that's a fact but I for one am not bloody happy about it.:(

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Indeed, its time Britain got some courage and stood up for itself instead of blindly following the path of a the United States of Europe.

Give us back our sovereignty! The EU should be for trade purposes, only.

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spot on with that.:)

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BBC NEWS | Scotland | Mini EU 'referendum' to be staged

Fantastic! We were cheated out of a referendum by Gordon Brown. If he didn't want to adhere to their 2005 election manifesto commitment of a referendum then he should actually have an election with his own manifesto!

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Strange how so many people are afraid to be a part of a federal Europe, but look back so fondly when we were part of a much bigger organisation, indeed one that covered a quarter of the globe's land mass...the British Empire.:D

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differance with the British Empire is we pulled the strings.;)

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...that was going to be my punchline, but I'd thought I'd leave it for you to say.:D

Personally I'm not pro-European, and would pull out tomorrow.

It was sold as an economic union back in the 60's/70's, and it certainly isn't that anymore.

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What is the British Empire? :D

I hate politics and things like this. I've just started EU law and its so difficult to get my head around. Art blah blah blah says this and Article blah blah of this treaty does that.

Wish we werent in the EU :D

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wrong question, should be What was.:D

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I liked it when it was The Common Market. That made it sound like a huge communal shopping spree where we could get crêpes and würstchen in exchange for black puddings and Lancashire hot pot.

Somewhere along the way the 'market' became a 'union' and the shop stewards were all in Brussels. :(

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I disappointingly lost a debate between the yorkshire pudding and the lancashire hotpot the other day. I still stand by my opinion that the hotpot is better though, though i do love yorkshire puddings :D

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We still have a British Empire but to cut down on travelling expenses we let them all move here :p

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There was a report on immigration about a year ago now in The Times and it had statistics that showed just as many people moved out of the country to foreign countries. Think the top 2 destinations where spain and australia if I remember rightly.

Point I'm trying to make is, many people come to live in England, but just as many leave, but obviously we wouldn't notice that as easily and so it looks like its just a free for all here.

Though I think you referred to me as 'Accywebs immigration represenative' or something ridiculous earlier so maybe I should just be quiet.

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In the first vote on the ratification of the European Reform Treaty which took place in parliament the other day, Greg Pope voted "for", so it's pretty clear where he stands on the subject!

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I voted for the Lisbon Treaty because it is good for Britain to be part on an enlarged EU. We got all our the opt-outs and in other areas there will be majority voting - something which is necessary now that the EU has 27 countries in it.

There has been a lot of rubbish written about the Treaty (although not on Accyweb!) but Parliament is surely the right place to ratify it, where it will be debated in detail for a full month in the Commons in great detail. Someone mentioned earlier in thread that we had joined a Common Market and not a European Union, and I think that's right. Perhaps we should have a vote once and for all if we want to stay in EU? For all its faults I think we are much better off in it.

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Agreed, Greg! Could you possibly have a word with your boss about it please? :)

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I wish I could bring myself to take interest in whats going on with the Lisbon Treaty, we've been recommended to follow it by my EU law tutor because obviously its a pretty important change going on thats going to impact what we're studying and it throws our text books out of date when we've only just paid for them :( £35 a book too.

Strangely enough there didn't seem to be much care for it in the past days Times though, unless I'm missing something.

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Does this "rubbish" include the recent report by the Labour-dominated Foreign Affairs Select committee which concluded that the treaty cedes vital powers to Brussels and that ministers are misleading the public by saying that it does not?

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I find it quite exciting that greg pope posts on accyweb, does peter britcliffe post aswell?

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...or perhaps this is the "rubbish" you're referring to, "Looking at the content, the result is that the institutional proposals of the constitutional treaty...are found complete in the Lisbon Treaty, only in a different order and inserted in former treaties...Above all, it is to avoid having referendums, thanks to the fact that the articles are spread out and the constitutional vocabulary has been removed." quoted from former French President, Valery Giscard d'Estang, ardent EU supporter and architect of the original European Constitution.

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Hardly seems that way to me, when you read quotes from the report like this, "We conclude that there is no material difference between the provisions on foreign affairs in the Constitutional Treaty which the Government made subject to approval in a referendum and those in the Lisbon Treaty on which a referendum is being denied."

As for the extension of majority voting, it may seem "sensible" to a federalist, but to someone like me who believes in the independence of the UK, it appears less so. It basically means that there are now more areas where laws which the people of this country do not want, can be imposed upon them simply because other countries do want them. I'm given to understand that majority voting replaces unanimity in 62 new areas under the Reform Treaty. Under the abandoned Constitution, it was 61.

It seems more and more apparent that the Lisbon Treaty is a European Constitution by any other name. We were promised a referendum on the former...why can't we have one on the latter?

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This is exactly why I argued against putting the line in about the foreign policy aspects of the Treaty being the same as the Constitution, as people would read it out of context (as all the newspapers have) and conclude that the Treaty and the Constitution are the same, which they are not. Incidentally, the FAC report runs to two volumes and over 250 pages, is largely supportive of the Treaty and is opposed to a referendum - something which was specifically rejected by the Committee several times.

I am not, by the way, a 'federalist' but it is just common sense to have majority voting in a 27 member state organisation. By all means argue the case for leaving the EU if that is what you want, but it makes no sense at all to want to remain in the EU and at the same time wreck it by giving Lithuania or Cyprus or Malta a veto over everything!

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I'm not really bothered about Lithuania or Cyprus or Malta...I'm quite content to let them run their countries the way they want to. I'm far more concerned about the UK and what happens when there's a majority vote on something which is against the wishes of the British people. As for whether the Lisbon Treaty is the same as the European Constitution, I reckon that wiley old fox, Valery Giscard d'Estang had it about right...same old thing in a different order!

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Way to go, Wynonie!

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Seems since there is now majority voting in Brussels and Strasbourg (see Greg Pope's comments above) the EU is now in fact the United States of Europe , so when are you guys going to start sending only ONE team to the Olympics and ONE team to the World Cup not 27 ? ....logic says that if you Europeans can have 27 teams in the Olympics and more in the World Cup, the USA should be allowed 50, Canada 14, and Australia 6 .
just curious, look forward to comments :D :D

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Think you're quite right and as the European Superstate takes hold, I reckon it may well happen. What puzzles me is that most people in the UK seem curiously indifferent to the fact that they are slowly but surely losing their independence, effectively leaving the way open for Greg and his fellow-Europhiles to do their worst!

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Weel your side of the discussion has not been lost on me.

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a peter britcliffe groupie what ever next:D:D:D:D:D

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I think Mr Popes stance on this issue could see him losing his seat at the next election.

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Well, if Acrylic Bob decided to stand against him, I reckon ole Greg wouldn't have a cat in hell's chance!