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jaysay 31-01-2008 09:04

The PC brigade are driving me mad
 
It seems the the term Mummy and Daddy are being band from the class room. It appears teachers have been instructed not to use the "gender specific" words to pupils. Teachers are being urge to use te term parents in an effort to boost childrens awareness of same sex couples. these new rule have been commissioned by the Department for Children, Schools and Families, which aims to teach four to seven year olds that not all children have a mummy and daddy, but some may have say two mummies or two daddies. Ministr Ed Balls has said the policy was desgned to stop bullying on children with same sex parents. Beam me up Scotty

panther 31-01-2008 09:08

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in years to come kids will be askings "whats a daddy"?:rolleyes:

but banning mummy and daddy is pathetic....iv heard it all now, whats this country coming too:rolleyes:

garinda 31-01-2008 09:15

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My mum grew up in a house without a daddy.

He'd been killed, aged twenty two, fighting for his country.

West Ender 31-01-2008 10:18

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When I was a child there were lots of children around, like Rindy's mum, who didn't have a daddy because of the war. Nobody regarded the situation as too ultra-sensitive and, basically, those kids just had to get on with it. Do you know, the majority of them became quite normal adults too? :rolleyes:

mrskitty 31-01-2008 10:28

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What about those without parents at all?What they gona start saying then? :rolleyes:

lancsdave 31-01-2008 10:41

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 524602)
Do you know, the majority of them became quite normal adults too? :rolleyes:

My mum died when I was 7. If there is such a thing as normal then I've turned out to be it :)

You really have to question if the people running our country are fit for purpose :(

cashman 31-01-2008 14:36

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Originally Posted by misskitty (Post 524604)
What about those without parents at all?What they gona start saying then? :rolleyes:

probably they willhave to say- my adopted female parent told me.:confused:as dave says if these cretins are fit for purpose i am the next pope.:rolleyes:

Less 31-01-2008 15:17

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 524568)
Ministr Ed Balls has said the policy was desgned to stop bullying on children with same sex parents. Beam me up Scotty

The way society is going there's more chance of kids with, a 'Mummy And Daddy' getting bullied for not being the normal family unit!
:rolleyes:

Lilly 31-01-2008 15:26

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 524568)
It seems the the term Mummy and Daddy are being band from the class room. It appears teachers have been instructed not to use the "gender specific" words to pupils. Teachers are being urge to use te term parents in an effort to boost childrens awareness of same sex couples. these new rule have been commissioned by the Department for Children, Schools and Families, which aims to teach four to seven year olds that not all children have a mummy and daddy, but some may have say two mummies or two daddies. Ministr Ed Balls has said the policy was desgned to stop bullying on children with same sex parents. Beam me up Scotty

Have you got a link to where you read this? I'd like to read it but can't find it.

blazey 31-01-2008 15:28

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From what I gather they aren't PUNISHING children for saying mummy and daddy, just persuading them to use the term parent or parents.

I dont see what the problem is. Maybe I'm too modern for this thread.

Lilly 31-01-2008 15:42

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 524715)
From what I gather they aren't PUNISHING children for saying mummy and daddy, just persuading them to use the term parent or parents.

I dont see what the problem is. Maybe I'm too modern for this thread.

That's exactly what I was thinking, Blazey. That's why I want to see the story for myself. I find it very hard to believe that the words Mummy and Daddy will actually be BANNED. This can't be done. I am Mummy and no-one will be able to ban that word from my children's vocabulary. :(

I think that teachers are just trying to be sensitive to those who don't live with Mummy and Daddy by addressing their carers as parents.

blazey 31-01-2008 16:04

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 524723)
That's exactly what I was thinking, Blazey. That's why I want to see the story for myself. I find it very hard to believe that the words Mummy and Daddy will actually be BANNED. This can't be done. I am Mummy and no-one will be able to ban that word from my children's vocabulary. :(

I think that teachers are just trying to be sensitive to those who don't live with Mummy and Daddy by addressing their carers as parents.

The term 'parents' is often used more by middle class children as well I've found, so perhaps they want to stop children sounding common! My mum tries to stop me saying 'nehhyt' (haha) instead of 'nowt' then 'nothing' instead of 'nowt'. Its not that she hates the fact we're from Lancashire, she just prefers me to sound 'proper' if you understand what I mean?

She doesn't BAN the words, she just tries to teach me better ways of speaking lol, which is good because the southerners get confused when you start using Lanky Language haha.

WillowTheWhisp 31-01-2008 16:28

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What about those children who are brought up by an aunt or a grandparent? Could the word 'parent' not upset them?

This is just out of hand silliness.

blazey 31-01-2008 16:29

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 524749)
What about those children who are brought up by an aunt or a grandparent? Could the word 'parent' not upset them?

This is just out of hand silliness.

I assume then its guardian? on school letters its always referred to as parent or guardian.

WillowTheWhisp 31-01-2008 16:32

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Yes I know that - I get enough of them, but I was referring to the classroom situation. If a child talking about his 'mummy' is asked to refer to her as a parent in case it upsets a child with 2 daddies all I'm saying is that the child calling her a parent could just as easily upset a child who lives with granny.

Gayle 31-01-2008 16:44

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It's going to get too longwinded to say 'please pass this note to your parent, guardian or whoever makes up your family unit'.

When I was at school they used to say 'parent or guardian', and I went to a conservative (with a small 'c') catholic school - perhaps we were ahead of our time and didn't know it! :D

lancsdave 31-01-2008 16:46

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Don't say mum and dad... teachers told not to assume pupils have heterosexual parents| News | This is London

jaysay 31-01-2008 16:47

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 524714)
Have you got a link to where you read this? I'd like to read it but can't find it.

Sorry Lilly I haven't, I swap my paper with a mate most mornings and it was in the Daily Star he left with me this morning, sorreeeeeee

forceten 31-01-2008 16:54

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Absolutely ridiculas!!

I remember when my kids were small and whilst at school they obviously made mothers day and fathers day cards to bring home. However there were children there who didn't have a mum or a dad for whatever reason, and the teachers were aware of it and worked with those children helping them to make a card for whoever they wanted. No fuss was made at all and the children were happy.

It makes it seem now that you are penalised for getting married, having children and having a mummy and daddy at home.:(

blazey 31-01-2008 17:09

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 524756)
It's going to get too longwinded to say 'please pass this note to your parent, guardian or whoever makes up your family unit'.

When I was at school they used to say 'parent or guardian', and I went to a conservative (with a small 'c') catholic school - perhaps we were ahead of our time and didn't know it! :D

I went to a catholic school as well. Thats obviously why I don't understand the fuss, parents were parents, guardians were guardians. I dont think we bothered ceebrating fathers day at school, though I remember making mothers day stuff.

I dont think I found much opportunity to talk about either parent either, though I would be interested to know what they would do about readers if that was the case, as early reading books teach the words 'mum' and 'dad'.

lancsdave 31-01-2008 17:13

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Somebody better tell David Cameron to be politically correct now. Here's one of his recent comments;


Mr Cameron said there was a need for "a culture change in Britain" to encourage couples to stay together. "It's not a moralising point, it's not a religious point but the evidence shows that kids do best if mum and dad are there to bring them up, and the evidence shows that marriage is a good institution which encourages people to commit to each other and to stay together."

banjoman 31-01-2008 18:22

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Its getting ridiculous now with what you cant say. Oh you cant call it that in case you offend XXXXX. And I`ll sue you or fine you if you do say it!

Ding Ding loony land station everyone off!

Seriously though I can see a large change coming soon. I can see a politician or someone senior standing up one day and going "this is stupid". He`ll get pelted by all the PC brigade (of which I am sure there is only 3 in the entire country who have made this little cottage industry for themselves) and secretly everyone else will be going "good on you".

a good example is one I saw in the paper. Burglar was headbutted after trying to escape (the owner was a kick boxer). The judge actually said "You deserved it and you are lucky you didnt get more" . Now if he stands for parliament he`ll get my vote. Get more of these judges. Give the silent majority a voice. My son (currently 2 1/2) can call me daddy, dad , pater, father, old man, oi you whatever but Parent is so impersonal. Can you imagine him introducing his friends to me in future years..." And this is my parent"...load of smelly whatnot...

Eric 31-01-2008 18:58

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I often wonder if the politicians who come up with this bs actually believe in it. And in the long run does it really matter. George Carlin discusses pc-ism in his hilarious book "When Will Jesus Bring the Pork Chops": when confronted with the pc-ism "differently abled" he comes up with this, or something like it: Barry Bonds can't play the cello, Yo Yo Mah can't hit the curve ball ... they are differently abled.

Lilly 31-01-2008 20:27

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Thanks, Lancsdave. :)

The link confirms what I thought. No-one is suggesting banning the words Mummy and Daddy, they are just asking teachers to make the children aware that not everybody has a Mum and Dad and to show consideration when talking to such children. That seems fine to me.

Less 31-01-2008 20:42

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Originally Posted by forceten (Post 524765)
Absolutely ridiculas!!

I remember when my kids were small and whilst at school they obviously made mothers day and fathers day cards to bring home. However there were children there who didn't have a mum or a dad for whatever reason, and the teachers were aware of it and worked with those children helping them to make a card for whoever they wanted.

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 524777)
I dont think we bothered ceebrating fathers day at school, though I remember making mothers day stuff.

Perhaps blazey YOU were one of the children the teachers took extra care with, without someone telling them what to do? All they did was make sure you could be involved while other children wrote Fathers day cards?

Benipete 31-01-2008 20:52

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How do gays and lesbians get pregnant(question asked by 9yr old child on first sex education lesson)and why do they have more money than other people

Lilly 31-01-2008 21:01

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 524940)
How do gays and lesbians get pregnant(question asked by 9yr old child on first sex education lesson)and why do they have more money than other people

Gay people have more money than other people? How have you arrived at that conclusion? :confused:

Benipete 31-01-2008 21:14

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quoting a 9yr old

Lilly 31-01-2008 21:15

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 524960)
quoting a 9yr old

What made the 9 year old think that? :confused:

blazey 31-01-2008 21:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 524936)
Perhaps blazey YOU were one of the children the teachers took extra care with, without someone telling them what to do? All they did was make sure you could be involved while other children wrote Fathers day cards?

I had a father, so unless they knew how much I hated him I doubt it. I never said I was brought up by a single parent family did I? Did I miss something?

Benipete 31-01-2008 21:36

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Called Peter not Kreskin

Lilly 31-01-2008 21:44

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 524988)
Called Peter not Kreskin


Ok :tongueout

garinda 31-01-2008 21:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 524940)
How do gays and lesbians get pregnant(question asked by 9yr old child on first sex education lesson)and why do they have more money than other people

Instead of Family Allowance lesbians and gays get money from the government in the form of Vogue benefits, which must be spent on home furnishings, and more sytlish clothes, thus giving the illusion of more oppulent wealth.

lancsdave 31-01-2008 21:47

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 524996)
Instead of Family Allowance lesbians and gays get money from the government in the form of Vogue benefits, which is must be spent on home furnishings, and more sytlish clothes, thus giving the illusion of more oppulent wealth.


I never knew that, I'm going to become a lesbian :)

Benipete 31-01-2008 22:09

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No wonder I'm a scruffy get

Less 31-01-2008 22:15

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 524964)
I had a father, so unless they knew how much I hated him I doubt it. I never said I was brought up by a single parent family did I? Did I miss something?

No you haven't mentioned it in this thread and I don't think I missed anything, just think back a few months, do you expect us to have forgotten what was said back then?
:p

blazey 31-01-2008 22:18

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 525021)
No you haven't mentioned it in this thread and I don't think I missed anything, just think back a few months, do you expect us to have forgotten what was said back then?
:p

You know what, I dont think you need to sign anything, I think they will carry you into the asylum against your own will.

Just because I didn't live with my biological father doesn't mean I didn't have a dad. Do you think my brother and sister are the immaculate conception too? Silly old git.

Less 31-01-2008 22:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blazey (Post 525023)
You know what, I dont think you need to sign anything, I think they will carry you into the asylum against your own will.

Just because I didn't live with my biological father doesn't mean I didn't have a dad. Do you think my brother and sister are the immaculate conception too? Silly old git.

Hey, I wasn't getting at you you silly girl,

Oh, sod it, why take time to explain anything to you? You just aren't worth it!

blazey 31-01-2008 22:33

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 525028)
Hey, I wasn't getting at you you silly girl,

Oh, sod it, why take time to explain anything to you? You just aren't worth it!

Well you were assuming I had no father and so didn't make fathers day cards. It was very clear what you were assuming and so your still a silly old git for being so naive.

Less 31-01-2008 22:44

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 525030)
Well you were assuming I had no father and so didn't make fathers day cards. It was very clear what you were assuming and so your still a silly old git for being so naive.

I wasn't assuming anything You already told us when you first came on site that you had a rather nasty biological father, indeed he came on site a few times just to prove it!

What a shame you are showing tendencies to be just like him.

Now unless you wish for a real slanging match cut out the juvenile name calling.

blazey 31-01-2008 23:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 525038)
I wasn't assuming anything You already told us when you first came on site that you had a rather nasty biological father, indeed he came on site a few times just to prove it!

What a shame you are showing tendencies to be just like him.

Now unless you wish for a real slanging match cut out the juvenile name calling.

I came on this forum long before me claiming he was a bad person. You ARE a silly old git. You been wittering on about Countess Street for god knows how long recently, and how you don't know where it is when it's round the corner from you, and you start threads saying you cant cope with caring for a cat. I class that as being a silly old git.

Where's m.pilkie today anyway, I haven't seen her around and I bet she's thought your a silly old git at times, as well as some others :p

You can practically call me a bastard but I cant call you a git? Give over.

blazey 31-01-2008 23:39

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[quote=Less;524936]Perhaps blazey YOU were one of the children the teachers took extra care with, without someone telling them what to do? All they did was make sure you could be involved while other children wrote Fathers day cards?[/quote]

this is an assumption that I had no father to write a card to. I have made it very clear Less and I would love to see you or someone else show me how this is anything other than an assumption that I had no father to write a card to.

lancsdave 01-02-2008 06:19

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[quote=blazey;525073]
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Originally Posted by Less (Post 524936)
Perhaps blazey YOU were one of the children the teachers took extra care with, without someone telling them what to do? All they did was make sure you could be involved while other children wrote Fathers day cards?[/quote]

this is an assumption that I had no father to write a card to. I have made it very clear Less and I would love to see you or someone else show me how this is anything other than an assumption that I had no father to write a card to.


Maybe because it's what you posted in the past ?

Originally Posted by blazey http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/i...s/viewpost.gif
I should probaby speak up here. At the end of the day, I think the court was quite capable of making the right decision with the scenario and I think although the decision wasn't what anyone wanted, I dont think its fair to lay the blame on the other person.
My mum did very well for me without a dad and there isnt anything in the world to blame her for, especially not a courts decision!

panther 01-02-2008 09:31

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yet again blazey shouting her gob off!!!


Go away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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