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andystanley 02-02-2008 20:51
Re: The old commercial pub
 
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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 525709)
The area would look nicer if they both fell down. On second thought it would look better if everything within 500 yards of the traffic lights fell down.
Good to see that people appreciate our industrial heritage

lindsay ormerod 02-02-2008 21:00
Re: commercial
 
Apologies there andystanley but if you have a look at that particular bit of "heritage" it's an eyesore, derelict shops on one side, derelict pub and warehouse on the other. Now it would seem it's a dangerous eyesore.
You can't blame folk who live near it and pass it on a daily basis for being a bit cheesed off really; it's been like that for donkey's years and nothings been done.
Hardly sits well with the regeneration and new health centres does it? Not exactly a welcoming sight if you are a visitor coming to Accrington for the first time is it ?:rolleyes:

andystanley 02-02-2008 21:07
Re: commercial
 
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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 526003)
Apologies there andystanley but if you have a look at that particular bit of "heritage" it's an eyesore, derelict shops on one side, derelict pub and warehouse on the other. Now it would seem it's a dangerous eyesore.
You can't blame folk who live near it and pass it on a daily basis for being a bit cheesed off really; it's been like that for donkey's years and nothings been done.
Hardly sits well with the regeneration and new health centres does it? Not exactly a welcoming sight if you are a visitor coming to Accrington for the first time is it ?:rolleyes:
I would rather drive past a building like "that" than any of the new health centre, projectss etc. It's a G2 listed building for good reason. and probably more deserving of a CPO and restoration than any of the other "regeneration" CPOs down that way

b-sound 02-02-2008 21:10
Re: commercial
 
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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 526003)
Apologies there andystanley but if you have a look at that particular bit of "heritage" it's an eyesore, derelict shops on one side, derelict pub and warehouse on the other. Now it would seem it's a dangerous eyesore.
You can't blame folk who live near it and pass it on a daily basis for being a bit cheesed off really; it's been like that for donkey's years and nothings been done.
Hardly sits well with the regeneration and new health centres does it? Not exactly a welcoming sight if you are a visitor coming to Accrington for the first time is it ?:rolleyes:
Knock them all down, make more room for the caravans.

lindsay ormerod 02-02-2008 21:13
Re: commercial
 
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Originally Posted by b-sound (Post 526008)
Knock them all down, make more room for the caravans.
That's all you get on it if it was razed to the ground !
The whole area needs thoughtful redevelopment, the Commercial was/ is a substantial building and the area at the rear of it next to the canal could be really pleasant, sadly the proximity of the rather noxious Blythes and Ashworths factories will hinder any plans.

andystanley 02-02-2008 21:19
Re: commercial
 
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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 526003)
Apologies there andystanley but if you have a look at that particular bit of "heritage" it's an eyesore, derelict shops on one side, derelict pub and warehouse on the other. Now it would seem it's a dangerous eyesore.
You can't blame folk who live near it and pass it on a daily basis for being a bit cheesed off really; it's been like that for donkey's years and nothings been done.
Hardly sits well with the regeneration and new health centres does it? Not exactly a welcoming sight if you are a visitor coming to Accrington for the first time is it ?:rolleyes:
"particular" piece of heritage in question is the warehouse, not the derelict pub and shops. if you cant appreciate a piece of architecture like that, and it's significance in the "commercial" history of church, then that explains your response.

lindsay ormerod 02-02-2008 21:37
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I was simply replying to the earlier responses that the whole surrounding area is such a mess that no one could tell which bit had actually collapsed. I have a great affection for Accy and it's environs, it's really sad that the remaining parts of our industrial heritage are in this appalling state of disrepair, if folk were less blinkered and more open to new ideas on conservation then this wouldn't happen ... Owl Hall (I rest my case.)

andystanley 02-02-2008 21:55
Re: commercial
 
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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 526018)
I was simply replying to the earlier responses that the whole surrounding area is such a mess that no one could tell which bit had actually collapsed. I have a great affection for Accy and it's environs, it's really sad that the remaining parts of our industrial heritage are in this appalling state of disrepair, if folk were less blinkered and more open to new ideas on conservation then this wouldn't happen ... Owl Hall (I rest my case.)
That's the difference. some "Blinkered" people like Neil, would have the whole lot knocked down, maybe in their place build some nice canalside dwellings for the workshy types....but I assume you are on the conservation/preservation side, so fair play.

I am not sure what your point is on Owl Hall, it's a contentious one, there are a number of differing opinions, mostly nimbies who bought houses built on green belt nearby (Colroy / Brookside estate) in the eighties, with no regard for surrounding residents, and now think that its wrong to allow development close to their houses. Having also had the play area removed from Arden Hall because their own chavvy kids were on there being noisy at night they now seek to prevent the restoration of Owl Hall. If the planners exercise a bit of common sense then they could probably persuade the developer to sympathetically restore the Hall before allowing any further development. (then maybe knock down some of them brooksidey houses that spoil his view!)

lindsay ormerod 02-02-2008 22:02
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I'm very much in favour of the conservation of these buildings, but we need to look at the bigger picture; for example when Oakhill mansion was literally falling down there were calls for demolition and objections to it being redeveloped as a nursing home, it's still there, looks great as a nursing home and has had the renovation needed. That building would have been lost to us all without the renovation, granted it's not a museum open to the public, granted it's a private concern but we can still see it and appreciate it's architecture. Better than nothing eh !

andystanley 02-02-2008 22:19
Re: commercial
 
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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 526026)
I'm very much in favour of the conservation of these buildings, but we need to look at the bigger picture; for example when Oakhill mansion was literally falling down there were calls for demolition and objections to it being redeveloped as a nursing home, it's still there, looks great as a nursing home and has had the renovation needed. That building would have been lost to us all without the renovation, granted it's not a museum open to the public, granted it's a private concern but we can still see it and appreciate it's architecture. Better than nothing eh !
So... It seems that we agree. Conserve not demolish. Preserve (albeit with another use) these grand buildings!

lindsay ormerod 02-02-2008 22:22
Re: commercial
 
Looks that way ! Blimey, doncha just lurve a happy ending !:)

ANNE 03-02-2008 00:40
Re: commercial
 
Dose anybody know how long it's going to be blocked off. I was pretty peed off yesterday when I was going to work at 5.00 and couldn't get through.
No way round except though all the mud at fox hill. It was dark muddy n horrible. just glad I had decided to put my boots on. I don't usually wear them for work.
I was not an happy bunny when I got to work.
Luckily I got a lift home at 10.00

panther 04-02-2008 08:36
Re: commercial
 
well blackburn rd must still be blocked off this morning, ya should have see all the traffic coming along harvey street in ossy!, even union rd is chocka block!

Lilly 05-02-2008 21:35
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Blackburn Road at traffic lights is open again! :D

Thank God. The traffic in Ossy has been horrific this week.

Mick 14-02-2008 06:09
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i found these on the camera i forgot to put them on while the road was closed sorry:)


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