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Yolanda25 05-02-2008 10:47

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 526945)
Yolanda .. you have the intelligence to find this article,but then you claim not to understand.. you aint thick are you? ..so why do you ask for other people to explain?.:rolleyes:


Well my mum used to tell me that i was a cleaver girl, of course im not thick, is just a way to write a thread to make it interesting.
Anyway so, after all ur comments, is there anything it can be done to prevent this or we just have to let the goverment do it???

MargaretR 05-02-2008 12:39

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This is what 'cleaver' girls do- :D

Lizzie Borden took an axe and gave her mother 40 wacks
When she saw what she had done she gave her father 41

WillowTheWhisp 05-02-2008 12:44

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 526930)
Is the stoning to death for adulterers to be allowed in the U.K., because that is practiced in some Muslim countries, and in not doing so we aren't allowing religious freedom here?


Well they don't seem particularly keen on upsetting people who commit 'honour killings' either so who knows how soon we'll have hands chopped off for stealing and stonings for adultery.

Acrylic-bob 05-02-2008 15:12

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 526951)
Polygamy is illegal in this country. Anyone claiming to have more than one wife in this country should be arrested and if appropriate deported or taken through the legal process for polygamy.

Simple isn't it.

Pardon the pedantry but, actually, the criminal offence concerned is Bigamy.

MargaretR 05-02-2008 15:20

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These extra 'wives' are not legal wives under british law - only under Islamic law - so bigamy is not being committed.
When Income Support payments included them in the past, they were treated as Adult Dependants extra to the one Wife.
Adult depandants could be, for example, an elderly aunt or sister, who was not capable or eligible for any income/benefits in her own right.

Wynonie Harris 05-02-2008 15:34

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 527211)
an elderly aunt or sister, who was not capable or eligible for any income/benefits in her own right.

An aunt or a sister is a relative. These women are not relatives and not "wives" under UK law, so the man should not be able to claim for them. If I had a couple of live-in girlfriends, apart from my wife, would I be able to claim benefit for them? I think not!

MargaretR 05-02-2008 15:35

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 527219)
An aunt or a sister is a relative. These women are not relatives and not "wives" under UK law, so the man should not be able to claim for them. If I had a couple of live-in girlfriends, apart from my wife, would I be able to claim benefit for them? I think not!

If I remember right, some men claimed for women who weren't relatives and were described as 'looking after the children'

PS such claims were RARE!

Wynonie Harris 05-02-2008 15:46

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 527220)
If I remember right, some men claimed for women who weren't relatives and were described as 'looking after the children'

PS such claims were RARE!

I'm sure they're still relatively rare, but it's a question of principle. Incidentally, I see that Greg Pope hasn't appeared to defend his government's stance on this...but, then again, how can you defend the indefensible?

Yolanda25 05-02-2008 21:57

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for the person who left me negative feedback if u are gonna live feedback have the guts to sign your name, no need for negative u moron

Royboy39 05-02-2008 22:15

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Originally Posted by Yolanda25 (Post 527482)
for the person who left me negative feedback if u are gonna live feedback have the guts to sign your name, no need for negative u moron

No pasa nada chica..........You can communicate in English far better that the 'Nerd' who left you negative feedback.....Spanish would be lost on them and probably basic English. :mad:

Yolanda25 05-02-2008 22:24

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 527499)
No pasa nada chica..........You can communicate in English far better that the 'Nerd' who left you negative feedback.....Spanish would be lost on them and probably basic English. :mad:


thanks for that, that has put a smile on my face:)

jaysay 06-02-2008 09:08

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 527227)
I'm sure they're still relatively rare, but it's a question of principle. Incidentally, I see that Greg Pope hasn't appeared to defend his government's stance on this...but, then again, how can you defend the indefensible?

Its not like me to defend Greg Pope, but I believe that is not the political parties at fault its actually the men in wigs where the problem is. We are still using laws which were made for the 19th century and to be quite honst its not the easiest thing in the world to change them. When anyone tries to change anything like this, the dogooding branch of British society comes out screaming the usual "HUMAN RITES" crap or its their culture init. Well I think its about time that the powers that be started looking to the rites of the indigenous population of this country, not continually pandering to those people who have come to our country to make a better life for themelves and their families. Enough is enough, I've had my rant now I'm going back to sleep:D

Wynonie Harris 06-02-2008 12:32

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 527569)
Its not like me to defend Greg Pope, but I believe that is not the political parties at fault its actually the men in wigs where the problem is. We are still using laws which were made for the 19th century and to be quite honst its not the easiest thing in the world to change them. When anyone tries to change anything like this, the dogooding branch of British society comes out screaming the usual "HUMAN RITES" crap or its their culture init. Well I think its about time that the powers that be started looking to the rites of the indigenous population of this country, not continually pandering to those people who have come to our country to make a better life for themelves and their families. Enough is enough, I've had my rant now I'm going back to sleep:D

This government passed the Human Rights Act in 1997, thereby opening the floodgates for all manner of spurious claims that would otherwise never have seen the light of day, so they have largely brought this situation on themselves. However, I still think that if the will was there, the goverment could end this anomaly if it wanted to - the problem is that it's so PC-obsessed, it daren't.

Must say though, I always get a little nervous when people start talking about "the rights of the indigenous population". Are you suggesting that people who have come from elsewhere should somehow have less rights? As far as I'm concerned, every citizen of this country, white, black or brown, British-born or born elsewhere, should have exactly the same rights...no more and no less!

jaysay 06-02-2008 17:15

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 527600)
This government passed the Human Rights Act in 1997, thereby opening the floodgates for all manner of spurious claims that would otherwise never have seen the light of day, so they have largely brought this situation on themselves. However, I still think that if the will was there, the goverment could end this anomaly if it wanted to - the problem is that it's so PC-obsessed, it daren't.

Must say though, I always get a little nervous when people start talking about "the rights of the indigenous population". Are you suggesting that people who have come from elsewhere should somehow have less rights? As far as I'm concerned, every citizen of this country, white, black or brown, British-born or born elsewhere, should have exactly the same rights...no more and no less!

Could not agree more with the second part of your post
Wynonie, but in reality it doesn't work like that, we livein a christian country but are made to feel outsiders and are put down for being christians, not by oher religions but by our own pc brigade, and this is only one instance. Is it any wonder that people who were born and bred in this country are leaving in droves. believe me If I were 20 again and things were like they are now, I'd have been out of here like a shot

Wynonie Harris 06-02-2008 19:25

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Right, Jaysay, I've decided to take the "If you can't beat 'em..." approach and I'll shortly be asking Mrs H if we can import two "female adult dependents" from Peru. I'm sure she'll see the wisdom of this...


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