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shillelagh 11-02-2008 15:09

Street lighting
 
Return of the blackout: Crime fear as councils switch off streetlights to save the planet | the Daily Mail

Can you imagine if Lancashire did this round here. I'd probably be ok with the street lights as im on a main road but what about the new estates they are putting up, on the steets that arent anywhere near main roads would they turn the lights off there.

Hope lancashire dont.

Just think of what fun the vandals and the burglars will have. Cctv would have to be infrared otherwise it would be no good, speed cameras exactly the same.

panther 11-02-2008 17:03

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bloody typical council for ya:(, whatever next?Attachment 10810

jaysay 11-02-2008 17:09

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 529653)
Return of the blackout: Crime fear as councils switch off streetlights to save the planet | the Daily Mail

Can you imagine if Lancashire did this round here. I'd probably be ok with the street lights as im on a main road but what about the new estates they are putting up, on the steets that arent anywhere near main roads would they turn the lights off there.

Hope lancashire dont.

Just think of what fun the vandals and the burglars will have. Cctv would have to be infrared otherwise it would be no good, speed cameras exactly the same.

Don't hold your breath shillelagh, somebody has probably read it this morning at county hall and will be having a meeting about it soon:rolleyes:

panther 11-02-2008 17:13

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I bet they dont switch of the lights where they live etc...

Madhatter 11-02-2008 18:23

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They debated this down here in Warwickshire, most of the borough did seperately, North Warwicks, Nuneaton, rugby, and all voted against it. It was decided it was too dangerous and would be unpopular. The council is risking claims if properties get broken into, there's accidents with people or even cars.
We did of course have lights that went out at 12 and came back on at 6 up until about 15 years ago. They all eventually got photocells put on which replaced the timers and thus the need to go round twice a year and reset the clocks.

cashman 11-02-2008 20:18

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i,m thinking lancashire may already be doing it, theres been a light up owd bobs off for near 12 months, have reported it to the point,i dont bother any more, but its very bad up that ginnel for young girls or women to be walking at night.:(

Bonnyboy 11-02-2008 20:30

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 529798)
i,m thinking lancashire may already be doing it, theres been a light up owd bobs off for near 12 months, have reported it to the point,i dont bother any more, but its very bad up that ginnel for young girls or women to be walking at night.:(

It's probably not right good for a bloke on his own to be there, never mind a woman or young lass :(

cashman 11-02-2008 20:32

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 529807)
It's probably not right good for a bloke on his own to be there, never mind a woman or young lass :(

yer probably right, i go up nearly every night, but then i'm nuts.:D

Busman747 11-02-2008 21:58

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I totally disagree with the idea of switching lights off in towns/villages and rural "A" roads, but I have long held the opinion that alternate Motorway lights should be switched off during part of the night.

Many stretches of motorway have no lights at all so why can't timer switches be fitted to turn every other light off on the stretches that ARE illuminated?

WillowTheWhisp 11-02-2008 22:02

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I agree with what he said ^^^ (Am I feeling ill? :D)

Madhatter 11-02-2008 22:28

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To be honest busman I dont understand why motorway junctions are lit other than at the top of slip roads. Many of them aren't at all, as you know, and then some are lit for miles before and after a junction.
On the carbon emissions point, Our Aldi and co-op, Asda, and Sainsbury's all leave the store and car park lights on at night regardless of whether they're open or not, all night.

cherokee 11-02-2008 23:55

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I hate traveling on the m55 at night its pitch black and a relief to get to the end of it and see the lights ..

Neil 12-02-2008 00:04

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Screw the emissions and leave the lights alone. As far as motorways go they should all be lit. It is always nice to come out of the dark and into a lit stretch of motorway. I don't buy into all this energy saving nonsense. We need more energy not less, its time to crank up the nuclear power stations so we can use as much as we like.

There is too much bull talked about greener alternatives to everything without the downsides mentioned. Like energy saving lamps that need treating as special waste due to their contents. How much energy is consumed recycling the damn things so we dont poison the earth by land filling them?

Talking about landfill, why are they on about charging y weight our non recyclable waste? We fill landfill by volume not weight so surely we should be charged by volume. If I fill my bin up with polystyrene balls why should the charge be less than filling it will bricks? Makes no sense to me. If fact filling it with bricks would be less polluting to the earth than the polystyrene.

Anyway enough green bull, just leave the lights switched on. Everyone can see what will happen if they turn off the street lights on streets with houses. Everyone will fit outside lights to deter the burglars. End effect no saving in energy.

Neil 12-02-2008 00:05

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Originally Posted by cherokee (Post 529883)
I hate traveling on the m55 at night its pitch black and a relief to get to the end of it and see the lights ..

I hope you mean its a relief to get back to the Preston end of it :rolleyes::D

cherokee 12-02-2008 00:08

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NOOOoooooo wayyyyyy :eek:

oops did i say that out loud;):D

entwisi 12-02-2008 07:01

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As I've said many times, what western Europe does is a drop in the ocean to how much power and oil USA and China use. Untill these two stop sucking the world dry we are just peeing in the wind. All this 'green' propaganda that is being pushed on us is so short sighted its laughable.

Take Toyota Prius, hybrid thing. It uses more energy in build and recycling than 5 'normal' cars and how far will it travel on a full charge of eleccy? 3 miles according to a bloke I know who runs one. Utter utter rubbish yet all the 'stars' go out and buy one to be seen to be 'doing their bit'. Well, if you really want to do your bit, drive your car till its falls to bits instead of trading it in for a shiny new one every 3 years.

Neil 12-02-2008 09:36

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 529919)
As I've said many times, what western Europe does is a drop in the ocean to how much power and oil USA and China use. Untill these two stop sucking the world dry we are just peeing in the wind.

And as a country we should state that we are doing nothing 'green' until the big boys do. All this so called green bull has killed our industry. We shut our heavy plant to save the planet, the same plant opens in china but making more polution.

blazey 12-02-2008 12:38

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The power was shut off in Lancaster not so long ago (i made a thread about it) and the lack of street lighting was refreshing. Of course, some streets need the lighting for safety issues, but the majority dont and it would be nice to just have the natural darkness instead of overuse of artificial lighting.

I'm all for it, though there are many places I can think of that should keep some lighting.

Madhatter 12-02-2008 19:09

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Maybe you're right, maybe we've got an obsession in this country to light everywhere that is dark. We've forgotten how to hold a torch at night.
Personally I don't see how street lights stop burglaries, all they do is light the path down the street for a quick get away, it was dark around the back of the house they've just broken in to.
Plus chavs are like moths, they gather around street lights at night. Turn em off and you'll get rid of the chavs.
Very funny post neil, well done.

entwisi 12-02-2008 20:06

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what you doing back then?


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