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jaysay 18-02-2008 09:10

Bottled water
 
Tonights Panarama is about the bottled water industry said to be £2 billion a year in this country, do you use bottled water and why. I do buy bottled water but only for the bottle which I refile dailly as they are ideal, especially at night. I used to have a glass of water at night, but lost count of the number of times I knocked it over, thse bottles are ideal.

Doug 18-02-2008 09:32

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I use bottled water in the car and generally will have surplus in the boot. Obviously it’s there for drinking when travelling any distance, but I also stock up when I know the weather might be changeable especially if I’m going walking and for things like wound cleaning. In the office I have a water cooler which uses 19L bottles. I’ll use one a fortnight at the moment.

MargaretR 18-02-2008 09:40

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I use a Watergem filter which I installed myself
Water gem filter system. Replacement water gem filters.
The filters last 6 months for a family
I change mine yearly - so get good water on tap for £15 a year

Bonnyboy 18-02-2008 10:15

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Apparently it takes 7 litres of water to make 1 litre of bottled water. Then there’s the cost of the process, plastic bottle and so forth

Yolanda25 18-02-2008 10:18

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i only drink bottled water when i go to work and then reuse the bottle for a couple of days

nikkival 18-02-2008 10:31

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I drink bottled water and have a Brita filter kettle & a jug for the fridge. This is because I am very sensitive to the chlorine that United Utilities pump into the water supply and drinking water from the tap makes me ill. Why I pay for fresh drinking water is beyond me :confused:

West Ender 18-02-2008 12:05

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No I don't buy bottled water at home and I suspect that quite a lot of what's supposed to have come from mountain springs etc. has really come from a tap. I use a Brita filter jug and I'm not averse to asking for tap water in a restaurant. I buy bottled water when I'm abroad, even in Malta where the water is perfectly safe to drink but tastes revolting, but I buy 2 litre bottles of the cheapest I can get.

MITZY 18-02-2008 12:18

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How many realise that Evian is Naive spelled backwards, do the manufacturers think that about us for buying their water.......Must admit we buy it when camping .

cashman 18-02-2008 13:21

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only buy when abroad, read an article a couple of years ago that reckoned tap water in the north west,is as good as any bottled, but if ya wanna get suckered,be my guest.:D

emamum 18-02-2008 14:50

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i use bottled water when i go to visit my family in Batley (near Leeds) but that because their water smells like dog breath when you boil it for a brew!

Out of interest, where does our water come from? over Colne it comes from Barley, does that make it Barley water?

Acrylic-bob 18-02-2008 15:16

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I heard on the news this a.m. that Lancashire C.C. spends around £50,000 per year on bottled water and Manchester City Council spends a similar amount.

I wonder how much of our hard earned cash HBC spends on bottled water?

Are there any figures Graham?

jaysay 18-02-2008 16:52

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 532673)
I heard on the news this a.m. that Lancashire C.C. spends around £50,000 per year on bottled water and Manchester City Council spends a similar amount.

I wonder how much of our hard earned cash HBC spends on bottled water?

Are there any figures Graham?

That £50,000 is out of your hard earned cash Bob

panther 18-02-2008 16:53

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On the telly this morning some fella was talking about, why do we drink bottled water when we have water from our taps and that the bottled stuff could be sent to poor countrys who have no water at all or its unsafe to drink:rolleyes:

he quotes...."the discomforting fact that while we have perfectly good tap water we spend approaching £2 billion on bottled water when a billion people around the world don't have safe water. "

Speedy 18-02-2008 16:56

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I just drink tap water, tastes fine to me, especially if left in the fridge for an hour or so. At work im always filling up my lucozade sport bottle with water from our cooler. I drink about 3 litres a day.

andrewb 18-02-2008 18:21

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I drink bottled water when I'm on the go but not when I'm home. Even if home at the moment is Yorkshire which has an interesting taste about its water :p

Check this $42 bottle of water: Water for $42 per bottle. What is wrong with people!? - Gadling

emamum 18-02-2008 18:29

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Originally Posted by Cyfr (Post 532720)
I drink bottled water when I'm on the go but not when I'm home. Even if home at the moment is Yorkshire which has an interesting taste about its water :p

Check this $42 bottle of water: Water for $42 per bottle. What is wrong with people!? - Gadling

Where abouts in Yorkshire?? like i said near leeds it smells like dogs breath

emzy 18-02-2008 18:42

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I drink tap water, never done me any harm

blazey 18-02-2008 20:20

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The cheaper water I would suspect is the worst in reality, because they dont spend less money on providing the water, they just pay their employee's less money in wages like every other cheap product.

We dont ship water to Africa because of many reasons I should imagine. Firstly, they probably dont have recycling centres and would have to create dumps to get rid of the plastic waste, or ship it back over. Then there will be the carbon emissions from transporting it back and forth, which harms the environment.

I dont understand why water can't be taken from the sea via piping systems and purified for 3rd world countries, surely it couldn't be that expensive for all the countries to chip in together and do it. I think there must be technology advanced enough for that.

I once wondered why someone doesn't just take over the poor countries and build an economy there but the idea didnt go down well with my religious friend. I still don't see why they don't do it though, it would provide millions of jobs, homes, welfare, wealth. In fact the only two things I can think of that could cause problems with this idea is the health problems already epidemic in those countries and the fact that every country would fight over the land. And both AIDs and Greed lack a cure.

I very rarely buy bottled water, I dont drink the amount of water your meant to intake per day because I never find time!

Doug 18-02-2008 20:29

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 532724)
Where abouts in Yorkshire?? like i said near leeds it smells like dogs breath

It's limestone filtered rain water with sheeps **** aditives. Plus, I had to the mixture two are three times a year by taking a leak on the top of Ingleborough....:D:D:D

Doug 18-02-2008 20:36

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Taking the pee apart, I will stop buying botted water. I will keep my water cooler as it's cost effective and my only means of chilled water in the office at this time. I'll buy a 2L bladder for the car for when I'm traveling round. I already have bladders for the rucksacks.

emamum 18-02-2008 20:36

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 532788)
It's limestone filtered rain water with sheeps **** aditives. Plus, I had to the mixture two are three times a year by taking a leak on the top of Ingleborough....:D:D:D

ewwwww....we go swimming there AND my grandad likes to collect the spring water in a bottle for us all to drink......:eek:

Bonnyboy 18-02-2008 20:39

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 532783)
I dont understand why water can't be taken from the sea via piping systems and purified for 3rd world countries, surely it couldn't be that expensive for all the countries to chip in together and do it. I think there must be technology advanced enough for that.

The technology has existed for years, it’ called desalination. Quite a few ships have desalination plants, cruise liners, submarines etc. Don’t know how costly a desalination plant would be on an extra large scale.

Doug 18-02-2008 20:40

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 532783)
The cheaper water I would suspect is the worst in reality, because they dont spend less money on providing the water, they just pay their employee's less money in wages like every other cheap product.

We dont ship water to Africa because of many reasons I should imagine. Firstly, they probably dont have recycling centres and would have to create dumps to get rid of the plastic waste, or ship it back over. Then there will be the carbon emissions from transporting it back and forth, which harms the environment.

I dont understand why water can't be taken from the sea via piping systems and purified for 3rd world countries, surely it couldn't be that expensive for all the countries to chip in together and do it. I think there must be technology advanced enough for that.

I once wondered why someone doesn't just take over the poor countries and build an economy there but the idea didnt go down well with my religious friend. I still don't see why they don't do it though, it would provide millions of jobs, homes, welfare, wealth. In fact the only two things I can think of that could cause problems with this idea is the health problems already epidemic in those countries and the fact that every country would fight over the land. And both AIDs and Greed lack a cure.

I very rarely buy bottled water, I dont drink the amount of water your meant to intake per day because I never find time!

I’m never sure about you? I don’t whether to slap you or love you. Are you really that naive or just thick?

flashy 18-02-2008 20:45

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i buy bottled water when i'm out, the water down south is the worst in this country, its so hard and ewwwww its 'orrible'

Doug 18-02-2008 20:45

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 532794)
ewwwww....we go swimming there AND my grandad likes to collect the spring water in a bottle for us all to drink......:eek:


Don't knock it, it is good for you if its running when he collects it. I always take fresh spring water when I'm up in the Dales. That said that's up land and not down below. It's worth looking out for dead sheep and the old odd welly boot floating around....:D

Doug 18-02-2008 20:49

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 532801)
i buy bottled water when i'm out, the water down south is the worst in this country, its so hard and ewwwww its 'orrible'

I would have thought that you carry enough water of your own without having to buy it my daugther darling......:D:D:D


whoops....:do-one:

:hesoff:

emamum 18-02-2008 20:50

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 532802)
Don't knock it, it is good for you if its running when he collects it. I always take fresh spring water when I'm up in the Dales. That said that's up land and not down below. It's worth looking out for dead sheep and the old odd welly boot floating around....:D

Not if you'v peed in it!!!!!

flashy 18-02-2008 20:50

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 532805)
I would have thought that you carry enough water of your own without having to buy it my daugther darling......:D:D:D


whoops....:do-one:

:hesoff:


run quick daddy run

Bonnyboy 18-02-2008 20:50

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 532783)
I once wondered why someone doesn't just take over the poor countries and build an economy there but the idea didnt go down well with my religious friend. I still don't see why they don't do it though, it would provide millions of jobs, homes, welfare, wealth. In fact the only two things I can think of that could cause problems with this idea is the health problems already epidemic in those countries and the fact that every country would fight over the land. And both AIDs and Greed lack a cure.

Do you mean something along the lines of Virgin Cambodia, Microsoft Senegal…perhaps even a Northern Rock Gambia :rolleyes:

Doug 18-02-2008 20:52

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 532806)
Not if you'v peed in it!!!!!

Give up, it's only one part in a billion. :D

keetah992000 18-02-2008 21:05

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i dont drink bottled water or the water from machines - i just dont like the taste and for some reason it makes my mouth feel dry - i know water doesnt really have a taste but i would rather have good old tap water - from being brought up on cooperation pop i guess - thanks mum x

steeljack 18-02-2008 22:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blazey (Post 532783)
I once wondered why someone doesn't just take over the poor countries and build an economy there but the idea didnt go down well with my religious friend. I still don't see why they don't do it though, it would provide millions of jobs, homes, welfare, wealth. In fact the only two things I can think of that could cause problems with this idea is the health problems already epidemic in those countries and the fact that every country would fight over the land. And both AIDs and Greed lack a cure.

!

Blazey, does expanding the genepool figure into your future plans :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

cashman 18-02-2008 22:46

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 532855)
Blazey, does expanding the genepool figure into your future plans :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Why? are you scouting for Hammer?:D

andrewb 18-02-2008 22:54

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 532724)
Where abouts in Yorkshire?? like i said near leeds it smells like dogs breath

I'm at University in Hull so living in Cottingham... tastes really weird compared to Accrington

blazey 18-02-2008 23:18

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 532855)
Blazey, does expanding the genepool figure into your future plans :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

does that mean having children? Stop speaking American ;) I intend to adopt a child of every colour like angelina jolie. So technically that would be no wouldn't it?

Is that what you are asking me :D

blazey 18-02-2008 23:21

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 532809)
Do you mean something along the lines of Virgin Cambodia, Microsoft Senegal…perhaps even a Northern Rock Gambia :rolleyes:


I'd go for Virgin Cambodia.

God you people are sooo unimaginative, why doesn't anyone suggest anything spontaneous and outside the box for once! Wild ideas are fun, and lets face it, there isn't enough people thinking of 'solutions' for the 3rd world, so wild ideas are better than no idea.

Would rather leave the plight of the 3rd world to virgin or microsoft than bono and bob geldof.

Neil 18-02-2008 23:22

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Yes I do drink bottled but only when the tap is not about. Like in the car or if staying away from home. I often find hotel water tastes like rats pee.

cashman 18-02-2008 23:54

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was one place in london where they have a "Water Menu" (claridges i think) 32 differant waters on menu, the most expensive was £9 a bottle, was sent to experts for analysis along with tap water n none of em could tell the differance, knew there was some real dummies about, but £9 a bottle.:eek:

blazey 19-02-2008 00:15

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 532869)
was one place in london where they have a "Water Menu" (claridges i think) 32 differant waters on menu, the most expensive was £9 a bottle, was sent to experts for analysis along with tap water n none of em could tell the differance, knew there was some real dummies about, but £9 a bottle.:eek:

Well womens magasines often have found cheap outfits that look really alike the designer ones so that us ladies can have the top fashions too within our budget. It's only material at the end of the day and a name to it that puts the price up. Its probably just the same with the water right? People are always willing to pay more expensive amounts for a name, besides, some people just have too much money to know what to do with it.

cashman 19-02-2008 00:44

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 532876)
Well womens magasines often have found cheap outfits that look really alike the designer ones so that us ladies can have the top fashions too within our budget. It's only material at the end of the day and a name to it that puts the price up. Its probably just the same with the water right? People are always willing to pay more expensive amounts for a name, besides, some people just have too much money to know what to do with it.

agree totally,still makes em dummies in my book.:D:D

garinda 19-02-2008 01:02

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I like drinking our Lancashire tap water. Much better than the muck I used to get out of my faucet in London, and having returned tonight from warmer climes, and after drinking nothing but bottled water for a fortnight, even to clean my teeth, I'm so happy to be back, and look forward to seeing a solid stool once again.:D

James1234 19-02-2008 01:34

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When I worked down in Norfolk 3 years since the tap water down there was also 'hard' I knew of some people who used a water filter that connected to the mains water supply, never seen one or heard of such a type used since mind, but I also fairly sure that limescale coursed by the lime damaged peoples appliances quicker then around here as well.

I also drink normal tap water around here at least and again it has never done me any harm.

jaysay 19-02-2008 04:11

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 532882)
I like drinking our Lancashire tap water. Much better than the muck I used to get out of my faucet in London, and having returned tonight from warmer climes, and after drinking nothing but bottled water for a fortnight, even to clean my teeth, I'm so happy to be back, and look forward to seeing a solid stool once again.:D

Oh Please Rindi, Please, you think were're going to believe you had NO falling down water:D

Neil 19-02-2008 08:27

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Have a look at this. I know Americans are a bit on the dumb side but it could happen over here as well. Especially if you went down south.


flashy 19-02-2008 08:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 532869)
was one place in london where they have a "Water Menu" (claridges i think) 32 differant waters on menu, the most expensive was £9 a bottle, was sent to experts for analysis along with tap water n none of em could tell the differance, knew there was some real dummies about, but £9 a bottle.:eek:


I once went to Harrods (as i always do when in London) and bought a bottle of water in a champagne type bottle and it only cost me just over a quid

jaysay 19-02-2008 09:06

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 532905)
Have a look at this. I know Americans are a bit on the dumb side but it could happen over here as well. Especially if you went down south.


Well its easy to see why the Americans gave the world Goerge W. Bush:rolleyes:

MargaretR 19-02-2008 09:22

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I just don't like the chlorine that they have to use to make tap water safe -- which it is.
The chlorine is removed by filtering - which is what I do.
I know that there is rather a lot of chlorine in my supply because I can smell it when I run a bath.
Chlorine is hazardous to health
Water sources of pollution

I consider that bottled water is more likely to have untreated contaminents than tap water. I don't believe that mountain springs aren't polluted.
Filtration of your tap water is the way to go

See my post#3 for the system I use - easier than jug filters

Neil 19-02-2008 09:28

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 532920)
I don't believe that mountain springs aren't polluted.


Mountain goat's have to wee somewhere as well :D

katex 19-02-2008 10:17

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It's just a fashion and all clever marketing, when most of us know full well that tap water is much safer with less bacteria, and 1,500 times cheaper.

Had the big water dispensers at work, but at lunch always used to get my water in the canteen from the tap (as none in there) .. colleagues used to comment "Ugh, you not drinking from that tap, are you?" Didn't argue as they sat there with their expensive bottles .. just drank with smug thoughts.

Remember re. the survey where you could pick up the most bacteria/viruses .. the water fountain came out on top at work as against keyboards, toilet seats, etc .. but this slightly different subject I know .. just put me off getting one from the dispenser at work !

Once went to a lecture given by a gentleman from the Water Board, he explained that the clear plastic bottles let in more bacteria than the ones in blue/green plastics.

They are useful to get when you are out and about though and very few water fountains available like there used to be, as in parks.
Neil: Is there one in Rhyddings now ?

Not a very thirsty person anyway and even in warm weather, never long for a drink. Like everyone else, always take one out with me (and drink inside) when abroad as you can feel yourself going a little dizzy when really warm if you don't tank yerself up.

Yes, should concentrate on the countries that die through lack of pure water .. sure the stastitic I heard the other day was 15,000 people per day throughout the world .. how lucky are we !

shillelagh 19-02-2008 12:57

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I buy the flavoured water and when empty fill them up and take them to work because i refuse to pay £1 for a bottle of oasis out of the vending machine at work when you can buy it up town for £1.40 for 2 bottles. I also have one on my bedside table, basically though only buy it when im out and about and im thirsty otherwise its tap water - made into brews - for me.

emamum 19-02-2008 13:14

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i re-use plastic bottles for ty to take his drink of water into school, he has his own drinks bottles but they kept coming back broken or got lost (they all have his name on!!)

MargaretR 19-02-2008 13:37

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The advantage of having it on tap, when compared to a jug filter, is that you can wash salad and fill pans for boiling veg without running out of a filtered supply - no waiting for those slow filtering jugs.

WillowTheWhisp 19-02-2008 13:41

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The tap water we have tastes foul and smells of chlorine just running the tap never mind when you fill a bath. It makes me ill. I therefore drink chlorine free bottled water. If they'd stop adding junk to our tap water I would happily drink it. When we're up Morecambe way in the summer in the caravan I always drink the tap water as it tastes fine there but here, particularly in this house (which may be because we are close to a pumping station) it smells like I've just opened a bottle of bleach when I turn the tap on and it makes me feel sick.

nikkival 19-02-2008 14:12

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 533026)
The tap water we have tastes foul and smells of chlorine just running the tap never mind when you fill a bath. It makes me ill. I therefore drink chlorine free bottled water. If they'd stop adding junk to our tap water I would happily drink it. When we're up Morecambe way in the summer in the caravan I always drink the tap water as it tastes fine there but here, particularly in this house (which may be because we are close to a pumping station) it smells like I've just opened a bottle of bleach when I turn the tap on and it makes me feel sick.

Mine is exactly the same, it seems to have got worse over the last few weeks. I rang them up last week and they came to take samples as the chlorine level has irritated the skin on my face (I look like I've got a chemical burn!) I'm still waiting for the results, but it looks like I'm going to have to install water filters on all the taps & the shower.

Another member of my family rang and complained about the bleach smell & was told that it was because her washer was next to the sink! :rolleyes:

West Ender 19-02-2008 14:58

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 533024)
The advantage of having it on tap, when compared to a jug filter, is that you can wash salad and fill pans for boiling veg without running out of a filtered supply - no waiting for those slow filtering jugs.

I only use my Brita filter jug for drinking, and not always then - if I'm thirsty I'll grab a glass and head for the tap. I would never think to use filtered water for salads or cooking.

MargaretR 19-02-2008 15:05

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 533079)
I only use my Brita filter jug for drinking, and not always then - if I'm thirsty I'll grab a glass and head for the tap. I would never think to use filtered water for salads or cooking.

I have a rule -
If it goes down your throat - filter it
(Boiled veg - washed salad- both can be affected by the chlorine)
That way no chlorine gets into you


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