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lindsay ormerod 21-02-2008 17:03

New Lady Mayoress
 
For the coming year is Sue Johnson ! She will the Mayoress to Pam Barton. I am really thrilled for Sue, she is a fantastic lady, she runs the Peel Park pub and has raised thousands for charities for years ,esp MacMillan. She is also on the governors at Peel Park. She will be a real asset to the town. Wonderful news!
Congratulations Sue from Lindsay and Kelsey.:alright::wave8:

Neil 21-02-2008 17:19

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You have confused me already Lindsay, please can you explain who will be the Mayor and the Mayoress

jaysay 21-02-2008 17:28

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 534375)
For the coming year is Sue Johnson ! She will the Mayoress to Pam Barton. I am really thrilled for Sue, she is a fantastic lady, she runs the Peel Park pub and has raised thousands for charities for years ,esp MacMillan. She is also on the governors at Peel Park. She will be a real asset to the town. Wonderful news!
Congratulations Sue from Lindsay and Kelsey.:alright::wave8:

Well I seem to be agreeing with a lot of people on here these days, I've kown Pam for many years, well before she entered politics, and Sue as well, even though I haven't seen either for quite a long time, But like you say lindsay they will be a credit to the Borough

WalkOnBRFC 21-02-2008 17:38

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Pam Barton is one in a million she has a heart of gold :o

lindsay ormerod 21-02-2008 17:41

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Pam Barton is going to be the Mayor and as she is a widow she has chosen Sue, her friend of 30 years to be her "consort" so to speak.

Neil 21-02-2008 17:48

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 534396)
Pam Barton is going to be the Mayor and as she is a widow she has chosen Sue, her friend of 30 years to be her "consort" so to speak.


Thanks for that, it sort of makes sense.

I personally don't see the point in having a Mayor. They appear to be an unneeded expense to the Borough.

Maybe someone can explain what a Mayor does that is worth spending the money to have one.

yerself 21-02-2008 17:51

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Will PB be mayor next year?

lindsay ormerod 21-02-2008 17:52

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I think that it's mainly civic duties but I know when my Uncle was Mayor he did a great deal of fund raising too. The Mayor is supposed to represent the Borough at functions etc. I know it's a full time job so to speak and my Uncle was worn out at the end of his term. Very enjoyable though and a real honour I would think.

lindsay ormerod 21-02-2008 17:54

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Originally Posted by yerself (Post 534408)
Will PB be mayor next year?

Hope not! Not exactly the face of the Borough that we want anyone else to see is it? :hidewall:

Loz 21-02-2008 17:59

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I'm sure it is a great honour to be Mayor but despite what i have read i still can't see what a Mayor brings to the borough,especially nowadays.
Anybody can be a fundraiser,i'm not knocking the charitable work done but i can't see how that justifies the expense.

Bonnyboy 21-02-2008 19:44

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 534403)
Maybe someone can explain what a Mayor does that is worth spending the money to have one.

I was wondering about that myself, this might enlighten a few. Judge for yourselves the value of having a Mayor/Mayoress

Civic Protocol

Neil 21-02-2008 20:36

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 534510)
Judge for yourselves the value of having a Mayor/Mayoress

What will it look like when we have 2 Mayoress's? We will be a laughing stock. I can just imagine the lesbian comments in the Observers readers letters.

shillelagh 21-02-2008 21:14

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 534533)
What will it look like when we have 2 Mayoress's? We will be a laughing stock. I can just imagine the lesbian comments in the Observers readers letters.

Wrong Neil you wont be a laughing stock - here in rossendale our current mayor and mayoress are both female, it happened a few years ago as well, our current deputy mayor and mayoress are also both female our deputy mayor died and his wife took on the role with both of their daughters taking on the mayoress role.

Neil 21-02-2008 21:20

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 534566)
Wrong Neil you wont be a laughing stock - here in rossendale our current mayor and mayoress are both female, it happened a few years ago as well, our current deputy mayor and mayoress are also both female our deputy mayor died and his wife took on the role with both of their daughters taking on the mayoress role.

It still sounds daft to me, not as daft as replacing a Mayor with a mayoress and then a mayoress with the two daughters, even more expense.Then again you lot do strange things 'over the hill' to me :D

shillelagh 21-02-2008 21:22

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We even have had a mayor which was female and her husband was her mayoress!!!

Neil 21-02-2008 21:24

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 534577)
We even have had a mayor which was female and her husband was her mayoress!!!

That is just stupid, the 'ess' means female.

shillelagh 21-02-2008 21:27

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Who says though the Mayor has to be male.

When the mayor is female the mayoress is known as the mayors consort.

Neil 21-02-2008 21:29

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Sorry but 'ess' means female so to call a bloke the mayoress would be as stupid as calling you Mr

shillelagh 21-02-2008 21:38

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If you read my post - i said he was known as the mayors consort

lindsay ormerod 22-02-2008 00:03

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Read the Obby before making daft comments like that Neil. No hint of lesbianism there, just mates for years .:rolleyes:

Neil 22-02-2008 00:20

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 534710)
Read the Obby before making daft comments like that Neil

I will read it if they have managed to print it to a worthwhile standard this week. That paper has the the worst print quality ever, the colour registration is terrible and the paper is always dirty looking.

lindsay ormerod 22-02-2008 09:17

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Agreed there mate, quality of print and quality of reporting both pretty shocking !:rolleyes:

jaysay 22-02-2008 09:29

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 534577)
We even have had a mayor which was female and her husband was her mayoress!!!

they're not call mayoress shillelagh, theyre known as mayors consort

WalkOnBRFC 22-02-2008 10:23

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 534533)
What will it look like when we have 2 Mayoress's? We will be a laughing stock. I can just imagine the lesbian comments in the Observers readers letters.

.. What a ridiculous comment! :rolleyes:

garinda 22-02-2008 10:31

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 534533)
What will it look like when we have 2 Mayoress's? We will be a laughing stock. I can just imagine the lesbian comments in the Observers readers letters.

Good job you don't live in Cambridge.

Cambridge gets transsexual mayor, partner - Europe - MSNBC.com

As for Hyndburn, it isn't the first time we've had a female Mayor and consort, and I doubt it will be the last.

Good luck to them both.

shillelagh 22-02-2008 16:46

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 534752)
they're not call mayoress shillelagh, theyre known as mayors consort


Yes i know jaysay - if you look above 4 posts you will see i said when the mayor is female the mayoress is known as the mayors consort.

It was just the way Neil was going on - seeing as we dont bother when we have a female mayor - we must be more forward thinking on this side of the hill!!! :D:D:D

Lilly 22-02-2008 20:27

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If an elected Mayor/Mayoress is unmarried are they just allowed to choose a friend to be their consort? Are there any requirements that this friend would have to meet? :confused:

shillelagh 22-02-2008 20:42

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Yes thats the case Lily they pick a friend or relative to be their mayoress or consort. I think the person has to be able to follow the same conditions as being a councillor.

Lilly 22-02-2008 20:51

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 535089)
Yes thats the case Lily they pick a friend or relative to be their mayoress or consort. I think the person has to be able to follow the same conditions as being a councillor.

I should hope so, Shillelagh. It wouldn't be right if just anyone could do it.

lindsay ormerod 22-02-2008 21:21

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I know that Sue is giving up running the pub for the year to concentrate on her duties and she is really looking forward to the role.

shillelagh 22-02-2008 21:26

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I know a few people who took on the role of mayor and mayoress and its a hard job no wonder she's giving up running the pub for a year.

accyman 23-02-2008 16:17

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how is a mayor an asset to a town

sory i just dont see how ?

shillelagh 23-02-2008 20:20

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The Office of Mayor was brought to this country by the Normans who also brought the Doomsday Book and the Feudal System.

The word "Mayor" is derived from the Latin "magnus" meaning great or powerful.

The first Mayoral town was Thetford in 1199.

The early Mayor was re-elected for several years and was the town's magistrate; he often had only the previous Mayor to assist him. His powers included the power to arrest those disturbing the peace, he presided over the civil and criminal courts and he had power to regulate the size of loaves of bread.

By 17th century additional powers followed such as Chairman of the Council, Chief Magistrate, Borough Coroner and keeper of the Borough jail.

By the 19th century it was suggested that the Mayor had three roles

Constitutional Monarch for the City
Speaker for the Council
Prime Minister
His term of office at this time was between 2-4 years and the Mayor would attend all Committees and as a result held the whole Council together to co-ordinate and integrate its activities.


I got the above from rossendale borough council - seems hyndburn doesnt have a bit that tells the history of the mayoralty. Anyway the mayor represents the council of hyndburn/rossendale/blackburn etc around the country not just in hyndburn/rossendale/blackburn etc. Also if a vote is tied in full council the mayor has the deciding vote.

The Mayor in Rossendale normally has at least 2 years of being a councillor to run - as they are normally deputy mayor first for a year and then mayor the following year. It also is supposed to be labour one year conservative the next (this will change liberal democrats have 2 new councillors) - in otherwords apolitical. Last year our Deputy Mayor was Peter Gill who died in September 3 months into being the deputy mayor, his wife (who is a councillor as well) took the deputy mayorship over and their daughters have took over the deputy mayoress role.

Hope this helps


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