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Should drug addicts be stripped of benefits?
Drug addicts must go into rehab or face having state benefits revoked, according to Home Secretary Jacqui Smith’s latest fishing expedition for reactionary voters’ sympathy. With drug-related crime causing Britain an estimated £15 billion a year, is it time to ‘crack down’ on those affected by drug addiction?
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what about the ones that still have their kids?
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it says they will be put in the care of grandparents
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taking away benefits wont cure the addiction
it will only lead to more drug related crime will alcoholics who get extra allowance for being dependent on the stuff get all their benefits stopped ? white lightning or crack its still drug abuse.. once again politicians sabre rattling :mad: |
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its ok Em, it did mention these peoples kids on the news, you where right |
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if the kids dont have grandparents then social services will step in:rolleyes:
but have to agree with grannyclaret, drug users shouldnt be in charge of kids:( |
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The effects of drugs on an unborn baby is awful! I was asked to take a newborn that was addicted and the poor little thing was really ill..
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The short answer is No.
Drug addicts, alcoholics, smokers………all addicts. All need support and I agree with beechy that taking their cash will only lead to higher drug related crime. What is it with all these gimmicks at the moment, only the other week we had the harebrained idea from the new housing minister Caroline Flint to put those out of work on the streets as discussed in the thread Work Or Lose Your Council Home |
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How exactly can we have a go at one lot of drug users just because they are on a low income, when we glorify people like Amy Winehouse at the same time???
And how about those nice city bankers with a permanent sniff? Doesnt make sense to me. |
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Druggies should be in prison, it isn't like its news to them that they will get addicted is it. don't want to be an addict? dont start taking heroin/crack/whatever. If we aint got room offshore them to India, if its good enough for our call centre/IT jobs its good enough for our prisoners. Can't do the time, don't do the crime.
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Then of course we have addictions to pre-scribed medication. Then we can cover glue sniffers.... we live in an addictive soceity, some addictions are tolerated, some are not. Education obviously doesnt do the job, thats been tried and tested. I actually think a lot of people (especially youngsters) turn to drugs in desperation. If we gave them hope, then maybe that would break the habit? Sorry entwisi, wasnt a go at your post, more thinking out load lol |
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The difference between a drug addict and a smoker or drinker is: drinking and smoking is LEGAL , you can buy both from your local store…
If they are taking drugs… then it’s their own fault: why should we finance them: |
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But sitting on the fence here, we're having it shoved down our throats how much smokers are costing us with the NHS etc, and in fact it is illegal now to smoke in pubs, so does that put us smokers in the same category as those who smoke weed (after all, that only just the wrong side of legal, unless you're supplying)
Dont get me wrong, I'm a smoker, couldnt give up if I wanted to (which I dont lol) so am an 'addict'. Just making sure I;m not getting shipped off anywhere soon lol ;) |
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At that point it is suggested that they should lose their benefits. Why should the tax payer continue to fund their habits? If thry accept the help and support to get off the drugs then by all means continue paying their benefits but if they refuse to accept help to get off the drugs that is their choice but surely they must see that it's a stupid one. Do addicts really want to continue to be addicted? In that case I agree with Grannyclaret that they should not be in charge of children. They want to mess their own lives up then fine, let them. If they have been offered help and refuse to accept it that is up to them. But they should not be financially supported in their habit by the general public out of our taxes and they certainly should not be left to ruin the lives of their children. |
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smoking a fag doesnt make ya paranoid and crazy, like drugs, unless ya shoved summat in with it:rolleyes:...as for booze, now that can make ya paranoid and crazy, ....but only in large amounts;)but it is legal:rolleyes:............. |
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I sometimes feel a little sorry for 'druggies' as the pressure by the drug pushers to get them onto drugs must be very convincing. They will do anything to get a young person to start taking these drugs until they are hooked and got a customer for life.
Must be awful trying to break free from this habit, even if they want to. |
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what about giving known drug users the depo jab so that they cant get pregnant? or is that against their human rights? what about the rights of the poor little babies that are born addicted, some with disabilities because of it? and the poor children that have to live with drug users?
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Alcoholics have malformed babies too
http://members.aol.com/creaconinc/fas.html extract- Characteristic Facial Patterns: There are characteristic dysmorphic features which appear due to prenatal alcohol insult or exposure. The eyes appear to be widely spaced; the nose is often short and upturned; the philtrum (area between the bottom of the nose and upper lip) is elongated and flat; the upper lip is thin; and the ears might be low-set and rotated to the back of the head. In addition, the teeth of individuals with FAS are often misshapen and misplaced. It is common for orthodontia to be necessary |
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foetal alcohol syndrome..... children with this are born with smaller brains.. any amount of alcohol during pregnancy can cause this..
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drugs addicts shoudnt have any benefits with or without kids, they get offered loads of help, i used to live in canal st and there was this woman who had kids and she was on drugs, she kept having kids and her mother will look after them, i think is selfish to get pregnant while on drugs, its not the babys fault to have irresponsible parents:mad:
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Perhaps that option should be revoked. The fact is that drug addicts and alcoholics have mental issues associated with their addictions. They don’t think rationally and have lost the ability to reason, therefore, remove the option. Not sure what we would do with the working alcoholics and drug addicts, some do hold down jobs, but that wasn’t the question. I don’t think taking their benefits alone would solve anything at all. They still have to be housed and eat. Maybe we need to have rehabilitation courses whereby living expenses are met, vouchers or something, who knows. Vouchers isn’t the answer I know, but neither is just removing benefits. We’re closing the door after the horse has bolted. More need to be done to stop people ever using drugs. |
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