Nosmo King
 

I read yesterday that as from 1st July 2008 residents in care homes will no longer be allowed to smoke on the premises.

Prisoners will, of course, be allowed to continue puffing away to their heart’s content.

The “eradication of civil liberties” noose grows tighter and tighter.

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what they gonna do? gaol em,they can have a fag then.:D seriously though more pathetic ideas from people who get paid for knowing buggar all.:rolleyes:

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Tis getting stupid I must admit. But not to worry all those Prisoners will be getting lots of tax payer’s money to fund their smoking cessation and health education classes.

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They can't. Human rights and all that. Residential Care should be outcome based which puts rights and choices in the hands of the service user....

But this is a good example of a political system that's biting its own backside.

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Strange how granny can’t have a fag because of inflicting noxious hazards on others, but we allow illegal immigrant criminals the right to say and commit further crimes in this country because they might be punished more severely in their own country, what I really love is they will have the right to smoke whilst doing time, yet those who face their closing years have to suffer incredible grief without the comfort of a fag in THEIR OWN HOMES.

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The simple answer is no!

T'owd ****** has always been a nuisance, stop him smoking? Don't be silly, he will live longer and we'll be stuck with him, (here you are grandad, have a quick puff on this while no-one is watching it will do us both some good).

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If that is true then it must be followed, before too long, with a ban on smoking in one's own home as a care home is home to the residents.

The whole situation is farcical in that we have a legal substance which can't be used in most places. Why don't they just make it illegal? Ah yes, with access to the continent so easy these days, "underground" supplies would come in and be sold on the streets. All that revenue being lost, that's why.

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Are you sure this information is correct Jambutty, and not confusing with Mental Health Units which will change on 1st July ?

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What are you trying to say? What type of background do you think the big Butt' is from?:D

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In addition, as of July 1st, police and ambulance services will not be required to enter any premises in response to a 999 call if they believe tobacco smoking has taken place within the previous hour.

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they will be providing them with oxygen soon so that they can enter if someones been smoking!!!

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We had word on this forum recently that they are considering a £10 annual licence needed to buy tobacco products.

That could be the first stage of prohibition, followed by increasing restriction on the issue of such licences- ie 'no, you can't have one', followed by 'no-one can have one'.

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The thing is they are reducing revenue from smokers at the same time they are increasing funding for smoking cessation within the NHS. So who’s going to be filling the big hole in the big piggy bank at Westminster? What really is strange is we continue to encourage immigration and many of those new comers Smoke which means we’ll still be paying and suffering for years to come. Nice one Gordon Blaire.

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Only repeating what they stated on the news. It could have been wrong.

Er! Do why still have mental health units?

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If it will include police and paramedics surely the fire service should be included as well?

Memo to burglars. Have a fag whilst you are plying your trade. The police won’t touch you for at least an hour.

Imagine the scene – a guy is doing a bit of DIY, slips and gashes his wrist. Blood is pumping out and a paramedic pokes his head round the door and smells the fag that wife gave him to calm him down a bit. “Sorry guv I can’t come in and treat you. You will have to bleed to death.”

I think that the word CRACKPOT is a suitable description.

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They can get stuffed, I'll smoke just before they come just to be awkward and bloody minded:mad: even though I gave up 30 years ago:D

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There are mental health units at both Blackburn, and Burnley hospitals.

By the way, one of the early signs is getting your words muddled.:D

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Maybe thats because nobody cares whether prisoners die of lung cancer, where as generally we want our elderly to live a bit longer.

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What about the 4% of the UK prison population who are pensioners?

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Pensioners or not, they are still criminals. It's not like age makes a difference in crime anyway. I'm sure I recall many people calling for thomson and venebles to be given the death penalty, yet they were only 10yrs old? Did anyone care about age then?

Personally I'd let the elderly smoke themselves to death, it's their lives and they might as well live out their days as they wish as long as it isnt harming anyone else.

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I can't believe they would do this. You are allowed to smoke in your own home....and a care home IS there own home......hmmmmm I don't see the difference.

When the smoking ban came in, our residents were allowed to smoke in the SMOKERS lounge..... even family were allowed to, because its classed as THERE OWN HOME and family are guests.

Relatives that didn't have a smoking Resident, were not allowed to smoke In the home.

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The care home isn't their own INDIVIDUAL home though, its one shared by others. Non-smokers often have rules about not smoking in their homes, so why should they not be able to have the same rules they would have in their normal lives?

Smokers can go into their own rooms if need be, or outside. Its just like at university where all the accomodation is non-smoking, and whilst there is smoking accomodation, you still have to smoke within your own room and not out in the corridors. I dont think anything particularly unjust is being done to smokers by enforcing these kind of rules.

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None of this doesn’t change the fact that this government as lost it direction or as it? If the balance of the population shifts in favour of the non smoker than an ever encroaching ban will “in their minds” increase their share of the non smoking vote.

What I don’t like is the fact that there is very little choice in terms of an alternative government. In respect of the Health and Safety aspects it’s the responsibility of the employer/employee combination to reduce risk not hide behind this non entry bull****.

But what really gets me is that the Human Rights Acts protects terrorist, criminals, offenders, illegal immigrants and other non tax paying scrounging bastards from being named yet someone who may have fought for there country or worked all their lives can’t have a fag in peace.

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Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! You walked right into that one.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

I just KNEW that you wouldn’t be able to resist having a poke at me in your inimitable childish way.

It would have been obvious to an amoeba that it couldn’t have been a typo so it had to be deliberate. But you being so full of crap and your own self importance you just had to have a dig and made a complete and utter fool of yourself, leaving people in no doubt who the obnoxious prat is on this forum.

I think that your post signature is quite appropriate in this instance.:rofl38:

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well said doug, its a pity the "intelligent ones cant see it.:rolleyes:

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Queen Victoria took cannabis for period pains and laudenum (opium) to help her sleep.
....the difference between her and a delinquent druggie was that she didn't have to committ crime to get them

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i choose not to smoke in my home....

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Good for you.