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talentedbutslow 04-03-2008 21:06

Comfortable in old age
 
The other day a young person asked me how I felt about being old. I was taken aback, for I do not think of myself as old. Upon seeing my reaction, she was immediately embarrassed, but I explained that it was an interesting question, and I would ponder it, and let her know.

Old Age, I decided, is a gift.

I am now, probably for the first time in my life, the person I have always wanted to be. Oh, not my body! I sometime despair over my body, the wrinkles, the baggy eyes, and the sagging butt. And often I am taken aback by that old person that lives in my mirror (who looks like my mother / father!), but I don't agonize over those things for long.

I would never trade my amazing friends, my wonderful life, my loving family for less gray hair or a flatter belly. As I've aged, I've become more kind to myself, and less critical of myself. I've become my own friend.

I don't chide myself for eating that extra cookie, or for not making my bed, or for buying that silly cement gecko that I didn't need, but looks so avante garde on my patio. I am entitled to a treat, to be messy, to be extravagant.

I have seen too many dear friends leave this world too soon; before they understood the great freedom that comes with aging.

Whose business is it if I choose to read or play on the computer until 4 AM and sleep until noon ?

I will dance with myself to those wonderful tunes of the 60&70's, and if I, at the same time, wish to weep over a lost love ... I will.

I will walk the beach in a swim suit that is stretched over a bulging body, and will dive into the waves with abandon if I choose to, despite the pitying glances from the jet set.They, too, will get old.

I know I am sometimes forgetful. But there again, some of life is just as well forgotten. And I eventually remember the important things.

Sure, over the years my heart has been broken. How can your heart not break when you lose a loved one, or when a child suffers, or even when somebody's beloved pet gets hit by a car? But broken hearts are what give us strength and understanding and compassion. A heart never broken is pristine and sterile and will never know the joy of being imperfect.

I am so blessed to have lived long enough to have my hair turning gray, and to have my youthful laughs be forever etched into deep grooves on my face. So many have never laughed, and so many have died before their hair could turn silver.

As you get older, it is easier to be positive. You care less about what other people think. I don't question myself anymore. I've even earned the right to be wrong.

So, to answer your question, I like being old. It has set me free. I like the person I have become. I am not going to live forever, but while I am still here, I will not waste time lamenting what could have been, or worrying about what will be. And I shall eat dessert every single day. (If I feel like it)

cashman 04-03-2008 21:50

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like it TAL, just about sums up things great.;):)

katex 04-03-2008 22:02

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Can't agree Cashy .. nowt good about being old .. load of claptrap.:(

cashman 04-03-2008 22:04

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 540775)
Can't agree Cashy .. nowt good about being old .. load of claptrap.:(

dont bother me kate,lifes what ya make it.the older i get,the more i enjoy it, no medals for misery.lol

katex 04-03-2008 22:23

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 540776)
dont bother me kate,lifes what ya make it.the older i get,the more i enjoy it, no medals for misery.lol

Not saying I am miserable Cashy .. just think the thoughts there are shrouded in a little too many 'poetical untruths'.

talentedbutslow 05-03-2008 00:33

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 540799)
Not saying I am miserable Cashy .. just think the thoughts there are shrouded in a little too many 'poetical untruths'.

ummmm.......you calling me a liar?.......:tongueout

MargaretR 05-03-2008 07:46

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 540775)
Can't agree Cashy .. nowt good about being old .. load of claptrap.:(

Kate - you have only just retired from the rat race.
It won't take long before you begin to enjoy the luxury of-
Time to think
Time to remember
Time to appreciate simple pleasures

Old age is the age when you see yourself for who you really are.
You begin to like yourself--
if you don't---
no bu***r else will :D

WalkOnBRFC 05-03-2008 08:10

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When I get old I'll let you know how I feel about it :o

Margaret Pilkington 05-03-2008 08:27

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Being Older does have its downside (but then so does everything else)...but it beats the cr&p out of the alternative.:D

Doug 05-03-2008 08:36

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 540853)
Being Older does have its downside (but then so does everything else)...but it beats the cr&p out of the alternative.:D

I have to agree with you Mrs Pilkington, it does. :)

mickmc 05-03-2008 08:36

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Nicely put TBS

Am getting that way meself, although still a bit to go to retirement, but yep agree, although have had some very rough times in my 5 decades, - I agree with the old saying.............

"If it doesn't kill you, - you'll learn something from it"

As you "grow" (being the operative word) older you learn to appreciate life and look back on pleasures you've had and look forward with the experience of life to see and do other things,

And if it bothers other people...... tough !! - as long as I never intentionally set out to hurt anyone or anything... "frankly, I don't give a damn"

And as for these kids saying "we", the older generation, don't know anything about music, well I reckon we've lived through the most interesting and entertaining 5 decades of music, - always makes me laugh, the kids can't remember the "hits" of a few years ago, but put Karaoke on and its surprising how many Abba tracks etc they know off by heart......!!!!!

And when that final day comes, well I ain't scared of it, can't be scared of something I can't change, its the ONLY guaranteed thing in life....... as someone once said... "death, - its just nature's way of getting you to slow down"

In my youth I once read the words of St Francis of Asissi, they had a profound affect on me then and I stll try to live by them....

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

jaysay 05-03-2008 09:02

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being in the second year of the over sixties club, appart from health problems, which have been with me for 30 years, life ain't all that bad, you can never say life is perfect, because the minute you do some D*** H*** screws it up for you. I think when you get older you tend to look at life in a far different way, you treat people differently too, your more tolerant and more easy going, but having said that I still don't tolerate fools gladly. But at the end ofthe day life is what you make irrespective of age, there is a say which is quite true, which is "laugh and the world laughs with you, cry and you cry alone". that is why I use so many smilies:D:D:D

grannyclaret 05-03-2008 11:33

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Nothing looks sillier than an elderly movie star/pop singer ,, with a face that has had so much surgery that they cant smile or blink their eyes properly...and hair that is raven black or bright orange,,
My motto is what you see is what you get.

WillowTheWhisp 05-03-2008 11:41

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My first husband died whilst still fairly young. Only days ago a dear friend of mine died after a great deal of suffering. She too was young. Being old would have been a wonderful gift to them if they had had the opportunity to enjoy it.

Doug 05-03-2008 11:53

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 540939)
My first husband died whilst still fairly young. Only days ago a dear friend of mine died after a great deal of suffering. She too was young. Being old would have been a wonderful gift to them if they had had the opportunity to enjoy it.

That’s a brave and just sentiment Willow and one that we should recognise in a world that sees family’s suffering so much loss of younger family members, worse when it affects us directly. We should embrace what we have, comfort it and share that gift.

grannyclaret 05-03-2008 11:59

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This is the anniversary week when my mother and best friend died...my mum on March 2nd (MOTHERS DAY) and my best friend Frances on March 8th ,she had just had her 40th birthday,,,,,,,,,,,,

jambutty 05-03-2008 12:12

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Originally Posted by talentedbutslow (Post 540826)
ummmm.......you calling me a liar?.......:tongueout

No but I am calling you a plagiariser or plagiarist if you like, which is even worse.

http://www.graceserve.org/portal/content/view/183/ posted on the 15th Feb 2008.
http://onelittleperson.blogster.com/old_age_gift posted on the 4th March 2007.
http://www.matchdoctor.com/blog_37379/I_know_we_re_not_old_this_is_for_future_reference. html posted on the 31st Jan 2007.
http://www.matchdoctor.com/blog_64118/Being_Older_smile.html posted on the 23rd Aug 2007.
http://unsolvedmysteries.com/usm487883.html posted on the 22nd Aug 2007. At least this poster acknowledged that s/he did not write it.
http://sbright.blogster.com/old_age posted on the 26th Oct 2005.
http://www.mychurch.org/blog/16927/What-is-it-like-to-get-older posted on the 28th Mar 2007 by a pastor no less.

To quote just a few.

You have posted this piece of prose on this forum without an acknowledgment to the original author and thus implying that it was created by you and acknowledged as such by other members.

steeljack 05-03-2008 17:31

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seems to me some of us age with grace and tolerance whilst others slip deeper and deeper into cynicism and cantankerousness

;) ;)

jambutty 05-03-2008 18:25

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 541121)
seems to me some of us age with grace and tolerance whilst others slip deeper and deeper into cynicism and cantankerousness

;) ;)

Pointing out that someone STOLE someone else’s written work and passed it off as their own isn’t being cynical or cantankerous. Try looking up the definitions.

So if you were the author of that piece you would be happy for dozens of other people claiming credit for it?

People should be honest enough to at least state that what they are posting is not their own work and/or acknowledge the author.

panther 05-03-2008 18:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 540939)
My first husband died whilst still fairly young. Only days ago a dear friend of mine died after a great deal of suffering. She too was young. Being old would have been a wonderful gift to them if they had had the opportunity to enjoy it.

agree with ya there willow!, my brother was only 34 when he died, so complaining of being old is just silly, people should think themselves lucky they are still alive and enjoy what they have left;)

talentedbutslow 05-03-2008 19:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 540963)
No but I am calling you a plagiariser or plagiarist if you like, which is even worse.

http://www.graceserve.org/portal/content/view/183/ posted on the 15th Feb 2008.
http://onelittleperson.blogster.com/old_age_gift posted on the 4th March 2007.
http://www.matchdoctor.com/blog_37379/I_know_we_re_not_old_this_is_for_future_reference. html posted on the 31st Jan 2007.
http://www.matchdoctor.com/blog_64118/Being_Older_smile.html posted on the 23rd Aug 2007.
http://unsolvedmysteries.com/usm487883.html posted on the 22nd Aug 2007. At least this poster acknowledged that s/he did not write it.
http://sbright.blogster.com/old_age posted on the 26th Oct 2005.
http://www.mychurch.org/blog/16927/What-is-it-like-to-get-older posted on the 28th Mar 2007 by a pastor no less.

To quote just a few.

You have posted this piece of prose on this forum without an acknowledgment to the original author and thus implying that it was created by you and acknowledged as such by other members.

It was never my intention to pass this piece off as my own and if that is how it is perceived,then I apologise.I happen to agree ,however with everything that is written there.This particular post was sent to me in one of the many emails I receive,and I thought it worthy of inclusion here. It happened to have no source of the original writer,which is fairly common in emails.In fact I would hazard a guess that most people here would pass on emails to their friends without the knowledge of where the hell they came from originally. The fact that 6 other people that you have shown here also posted this piece without a reference to the original obviously makes them plagiarists too.I take exception to the strong use of the word "stole" in your posting here and advise that I am as honest as the next man.Permit me to add.....this is not the first time you have had a shot at me.....perhaps it,s because I live far away these days...

Tal

talentedbutslow 05-03-2008 19:25

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[quote=jambutty;540963]No but I am calling you a plagiariser or plagiarist if you like, which is even worse.

http://www.graceserve.org/portal/content/view/183/ posted on the 15th Feb 2008.
http://onelittleperson.blogster.com/old_age_gift posted on the 4th March 2007.
http://www.matchdoctor.com/blog_37379/I_know_we_re_not_old_this_is_for_future_reference. html posted on the 31st Jan 2007.
http://www.matchdoctor.com/blog_64118/Being_Older_smile.html posted on the 23rd Aug 2007.
http://unsolvedmysteries.com/usm487883.html posted on the 22nd Aug 2007. At least this poster acknowledged that s/he did not write it.
http://sbright.blogster.com/old_age posted on the 26th Oct 2005.
http://www.mychurch.org/blog/16927/What-is-it-like-to-get-older posted on the 28th Mar 2007 by a pastor no less.

To quote just a few.

You have posted this piece of prose on this forum without an acknowledgment to the original author and thus implying that it was created by you and acknowledged as such by other members.[/quote

Margaret Pilkington 05-03-2008 19:52

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There was nowhere in the original post where TBS said that they were his own words...neither was there anything to say they weren't. Maybe Jambutty, you assumed he was passing them off as his own words...but I didn't, as I have had this same e-mail several times...and never ever has there been an attribution to any author.

steeljack 05-03-2008 19:54

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 541188)
Pointing out that someone STOLE someone else’s written work and passed it off as their own isn’t being cynical or cantankerous. Try looking up the definitions.

So if you were the author of that piece you would be happy for dozens of other people claiming credit for it?

People should be honest enough to at least state that what they are posting is not their own work and/or acknowledge the author.

its not like Tal was claiming credit for writing the 'Lords prayer 'or composing the " Ode to Joy" its a bit of internet fluff that has been floating around for awhile and he passed it on, belive it or not some people enjoy reading things like that and pass them on in the hope that they may bring a little ray of sunshine into someone elses miserable life.

cashman 05-03-2008 20:06

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well i enjoyed it,n think someones losing the plot here, ya can take things too serious its just simple pleasure.:rolleyes:

WalkOnBRFC 05-03-2008 21:02

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret (Post 540954)
This is the anniversary week when my mother and best friend died...my mum on March 2nd (MOTHERS DAY) and my best friend Frances on March 8th ,she had just had her 40th birthday,,,,,,,,,,,,

I buried my Dad, my oldest brother and my other brother all on the 2nd March but different years.. beat that Lol. Talk about Feb n March being cr*p months

katex 05-03-2008 21:07

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Originally Posted by WalkOnBRFC (Post 541288)
I buried my Dad, my oldest brother and my other brother all on the 2nd March but different years.. beat that Lol. Talk about Feb n March being cr*p months

Gulp .. gonna' cheer up now ... x

jambutty 06-03-2008 13:51

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Originally Posted by talentedbutslow (Post 541230)
It was never my intention to pass this piece off as my own and if that is how it is perceived,then I apologise.I happen to agree ,however with everything that is written there.This particular post was sent to me in one of the many emails I receive,and I thought it worthy of inclusion here. It happened to have no source of the original writer,which is fairly common in emails.In fact I would hazard a guess that most people here would pass on emails to their friends without the knowledge of where the hell they came from originally. The fact that 6 other people that you have shown here also posted this piece without a reference to the original obviously makes them plagiarists too.I take exception to the strong use of the word "stole" in your posting here and advise that I am as honest as the next man.Permit me to add.....this is not the first time you have had a shot at me.....perhaps it,s because I live far away these days...

Tal

I couldn’t find the original source either and yes nearly all the other listed posts were plagiarised. If I had been a member of those various forums my reaction would have been exactly the same and I would have posted accordingly.

You did not have permission to reproduce that piece of prose from the author nor did you acknowledge that it was not your own work. You can take all the umbrage that you like but there is only one word for such action.

If you lived next door to me I would still have made the post that I did.

jambutty 06-03-2008 13:59

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 541249)
There was nowhere in the original post where TBS said that they were his own words...neither was there anything to say they weren't. Maybe Jambutty, you assumed he was passing them off as his own words...but I didn't, as I have had this same e-mail several times...and never ever has there been an attribution to any author.

So according to you any post cannot be attributed to the person making it on a forum under their user name?

Strange how you assume that I wrote the post pointing out the plagiarism because I didn’t state who actually made the aqccusation, yet when someone else does exactly the same you are trying to defend them.

A clear case of double standards.

Come on Margaret Pilkington – get real. You can’t have it both ways.:nono8:

beechy 06-03-2008 14:06

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its time you got a life JB and stopped pontificating
words are for all to enjoy and embrace as we will :tongueout

jambutty 06-03-2008 14:11

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 541250)
its not like Tal was claiming credit for writing the 'Lords prayer 'or composing the " Ode to Joy" its a bit of internet fluff that has been floating around for awhile and he passed it on, belive it or not some people enjoy reading things like that and pass them on in the hope that they may bring a little ray of sunshine into someone elses miserable life.

That article is a fine piece of prose and the author deserves to be credited with making it. Dismissing it as a bit of “Internet fluff” is an insult to the author. If the author is unknown then a simple “Anon” at the end would have made it clear that the person posting it was not claiming copyright.


That’s a bit presumptuous to suggest that it “may bring a little ray of sunshine into someone elses miserable life.

jambutty 06-03-2008 14:20

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 541255)
well i enjoyed it,n think someones losing the plot here, ya can take things too serious its just simple pleasure.:rolleyes:

No one is losing the plot here.

Breach of copyright, that is plagiarism, is a serious issue as many a student has found out to their cost when presenting their work to the tutor, having copied it from a web page.

cashman 06-03-2008 15:08

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 541557)
No one is losing the plot here.

Breach of copyright, that is plagiarism, is a serious issue as many a student has found out to their cost when presenting their work to the tutor, having copied it from a web page.

well there only seems to be you viewing it as a serious issue. i wonder why?:confused:

jambutty 06-03-2008 16:54

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 541580)
well there only seems to be you viewing it as a serious issue. i wonder why?:confused:

I wonder what view you would take if you wrote an article or a book and someone else cashed in on your work? Up in arms demanding compensation, perhaps?

The music and literary industries take breaches of copyright very seriously as do the photographic and art world.

slinky 06-03-2008 16:57

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 541642)
I wonder what view you would take if you wrote an article or a book and someone else cashed in on your work?

Bloody hell, has Tal been paid for this piece on here...............:rolleyes: I could do with some extra cash..............:rolleyes:

cashman 06-03-2008 20:48

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he hasn't cashed in on someones work, he just posted it on here and gave 99%of those who read it a bit of pleasure,lighten up for gods sake.:(

slinky 06-03-2008 20:57

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 541792)
he hasn't cashed in on someones work, he just posted it on here and gave 99%of those who read it a bit of pleasure,lighten up for gods sake.:(

Don't be silly, if he came on here and said " Oh that was really good, cheered me up no end, thanks Tal " Everyone on Accyweb, would probably drop dead of shock.

talentedbutslow 07-03-2008 07:35

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Is just ignoring it all............

jaysay 07-03-2008 17:08

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Who cares who wrote it it was good

I didn't write this but I thought I share it with you, it was broght back from Austrailia a few years ago and hangs over my desk, unforunatly i is now very true
The Gold Years

The Golden years have come at last
I cannot see, I cannot pee,
I cannot chew, I cannot s***w
My memory shrinks, my hearing stinks,
No sense of smell, I look like hell!
My body's drooping, got trouble pooping.
The golden years have come at last.......
TE GOLDEN YEARS CAN KISS MY ASS;)


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