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Neil 05-03-2008 09:32
Apology To Graham Jones
 
Graham,

I would like to apologise for the facebook thread's I started.
It was not my initial intention to have a personal go at you. I intended pointing out why these types of sites can have downsides to them.
I should have had the common sense to realise how it would end up and not posted at all.

I was annoyed when I was accused of faking the information I posted which is not the case. I then started the second thread. This showed a lack of control and I am embarrassed by my actions. I don't usually allow such things to bother me, in this case I did. For that I am very sorry.

I asked for the threads to be removed as I believe they looked like a personal attack on you.

Neil.

flashy 05-03-2008 09:38
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
Good on you Neil, i admire you for doing this

cashman 05-03-2008 09:47
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
thats the mark of a proper chap, pity P.B. cant hold his hand up.;)

Wynonie Harris 05-03-2008 10:22
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
Fair play to you for being big enough to apologise, Neil, but as Garry said, I still reckon you've done Graham a favour by showing him to be a regular sort of bloke with fallibilities just like so many of us!

Lolly 05-03-2008 10:28
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I don't know what the apology is referring to, I did not see these threads. But even so it takes a lot to put up a public apology. I admire you for this.

Romps 05-03-2008 11:04
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
I didn't see it as a personal attack, merely a nudge to show what repercussions could occur by having material of that nature on show. Personally I think you did him a favour. Obviously you didn't think so, and you should be proud that you are fair and open minded enough to apologise especially in public. X

jaysay 05-03-2008 11:18
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
Well it certainly proves Neil is a man who has principles, so he has no chance of becoming a politician:D

cashman 05-03-2008 11:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Romps (Post 540920)
I didn't see it as a personal attack, merely a nudge to show what repercussions could occur by having material of that nature on show. Personally I think you did him a favour. Obviously you didn't think so, and you should be proud that you are fair and open minded enough to apologise especially in public. X
thats the mark of a proper missus.;):D

grannyclaret 05-03-2008 11:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lolly (Post 540908)
I don't know what the apology is referring to, I did not see these threads. But even so it takes a lot to put up a public apology. I admire you for this.
Me too,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

WillowTheWhisp 05-03-2008 11:43
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Me three and I agree with Cashy that I would have admired PB a lot more if he'd had the guts to behave in a similar manner.

g jones 05-03-2008 11:48
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
Thanks Neil. I respect the fact you had the guts to apologise. Didn't see the thread.

Facebook is a noticeboard on which people pin things to others noticeboards, and it all gets automated through their friends to their friends and so on. I don't know if there are (or can be with this type of social networking) any filters.

This is the second item I wanted removing, the first was racist (about the french). I don't know how you prevent it because on Facebook, the whole point is your friends (and everyone else too) can post on your page.

Ta Neil

cashman 05-03-2008 11:51
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by g jones (Post 540944)
Thanks Neil. I respect the fact you had the guts to apologise. Didn't see the thread.

Facebook is a noticeboard on which people pin things which I think things get automated to other people they know and so on.

This is the second item I wanted removing, the first was racist. I don't know how you prevent it because on Facebook, the whole point is your friends (and anyone else) post on your page.

I am just an ordinary bod who makes mistakes too. I enjoy the banter and believe if I work hard, people are honest, contribute/lead issues, Peel Ward will be a better place. I would like to think my position is to start the ball rolling and let democracy take over.
good man,thats that un put to bed.;)

lancsdave 05-03-2008 11:51
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Well done Neil, I knew you couldn't be as bad as people make you out to be :p

cashman 05-03-2008 11:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 540947)
Well done Neil, I knew you couldn't be as bad as people make you out to be :p
now lets not get too silly.:D

grannyclaret 05-03-2008 11:53
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
I dont know whats gone on ,,, but it sounds like ,alls well that ends well..
.NICE ONE GUYS

WalkOnBRFC 05-03-2008 11:56
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 540877)
Graham,

I would like to apologise for the facebook thread's I started.
It was not my initial intention to have a personal go at you. I intended pointing out why these types of sites can have downsides to them.
I should have had the common sense to realise how it would end up and not posted at all.

I was annoyed when I was accused of faking the information I posted which is not the case. I then started the second thread. This showed a lack of control and I am embarrassed by my actions. I don't usually allow such things to bother me, in this case I did. For that I am very sorry.

I asked for the threads to be removed as I believe they looked like a personal attack on you.

Neil.
That's good of you to apologise Neil :)

Some people can take things completely the wrong way though and when things like this get brought out then people start thinking he's this he's and it's just complete rubbish and not true.

Did anyone even think maybe he didn't start his own facebook and someone else stupidly did it for him??

We can't all get everything right all the time, no one is perfect. I know you've apologised but when threads like this start they can easily spiral out of control and hurt a lot of people :(

At the end of the day Graham gives up the majority of his own time to do things that he thinks are in the best interests of people and I admire him for that whether I'm interested in politics and whether he's good or bad at it and likewise to anyone else who gives up their time for causes they believe in.

WillowTheWhisp 05-03-2008 12:18
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by g jones (Post 540944)
Thanks Neil. I respect the fact you had the guts to apologise. Didn't see the thread.

Facebook is a noticeboard on which people pin things to others noticeboards, and it all gets automated through their friends to their friends and so on. I don't know if there are (or can be with this type of social networking) any filters.

This is the second item I wanted removing, the first was racist (about the french). I don't know how you prevent it because on Facebook, the whole point is your friends (and everyone else too) can post on your page.

Ta Neil
Have you tried to remove it Graham? I don't know how Facebook works but I think you can delete stuff on MySpace if somebody posts a similar thing. If there isn't a way to do that on Facebook there jolly well should be. (Thinks of joing Facebook to check it out - except nobody knows me so nobody would post anything on mine anyway!:( )

WalkOnBRFC 05-03-2008 12:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 540969)
Have you tried to remove it Graham? I don't know how Facebook works but I think you can delete stuff on MySpace if somebody posts a similar thing. If there isn't a way to do that on Facebook there jolly well should be. (Thinks of joing Facebook to check it out - except nobody knows me so nobody would post anything on mine anyway!:( )
It has now been removed

MargaretR 05-03-2008 12:36
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Neil - I retract saying you have bad taste

Any man who loathes football as much as I do can't be that bad :D

flashy 05-03-2008 12:58
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Graham you can remove it quite easily, just remove your fun wall then people wouldnt be able to post anything on it if its not there

katex 05-03-2008 13:04
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Well, ok .. you can come out of your room now then, and put the gruel bowl in the sink ... :)

garinda 05-03-2008 15:00
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It takes a big person to apologise, even though I know you didn't mean the thread to be a personal attack.

Some good points were made, and as others have said, Graham is a normal bloke, who uses a social networking site, like a lot of people on here, no big deal.

The next time I tell you to move a thread from the over 18's section, or jump in the canal, don't listen to me.:D

cashman 05-03-2008 15:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 541056)

The next time I tell you to move a thread from the over 18's section, or jump in the canal, don't listen to me.:D
that explains a multitude.:D;)

Doug 05-03-2008 15:08
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
I don't listen to him anyway......who is he.

Lilly 05-03-2008 16:26
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
I don't think you've got anything to apologise for, Neil. Mind you I only saw the beginnings of the thread. We musn't upset folk, must we? :)

jaysay 05-03-2008 16:59
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
If i'm getting this right, on these sites people can just put things on your pages by just sending them to you, without your say so, sounds just crazy to me. Graham Jones is not my favourite cup of tea, but if some one put that photo on his pages without him knowing about it, which he has intimated is what happened, its a bloody disgrace. Its supposed to be your friends you commuicate with your pages, but anyone can just send what they want and its just displayed without so much a by your leave, if thats the case I'll stick to Accy Wed and sod Facebook

WillowTheWhisp 05-03-2008 17:10
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Yes anyone can put something there. It shows as being who it has come from, very much like somebody leaving a comment on your profile on BurnleyWeb.

jaysay 05-03-2008 17:13
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 541106)
Yes anyone can put something there. It shows as being who it has come from, very much like somebody leaving a comment on your profile on BurnleyWeb.
Didn't know that about BurnleyWeb Willow, but I still think its wrong, when some one can post a picture like the one on Graham's

WillowTheWhisp 05-03-2008 17:18
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
I don't know if people can put photos in their comments on BurnleyWeb profiles, I've never tried. What I was meaning was that someone can post a comment on your profile there and the first you know about it would be when you see it. They could say something offensive or defamatory and anyone else loking at your profile would see it, like looking at Graham's Facebook 'profile'.

katex 05-03-2008 17:27
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
As I understand it .. you can only put something up on somebody's site only if you have been accepted as a trusted friend .. that means you can't see into his profile either, or view other's comments. Course his other friends can see them ..:confused:

The young lady poster was an accepted friend .. 'course might be getting this all wrong, but that's the way I see it ?

Mr Aleks 05-03-2008 17:32
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If he works for the council must be a t****r

andrewb 05-03-2008 17:33
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 541106)
Yes anyone can put something there. It shows as being who it has come from, very much like somebody leaving a comment on your profile on BurnleyWeb.
Though in Grahams case he had a 3rd party application where people posted to it. I don't have the problems of people posting pictures on my facebook as I don't have that application, I stick to the official facebook one.

Mr Aleks 05-03-2008 17:33
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Thats what you get for using sites like bebo or myface

cashman 05-03-2008 17:35
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
like jaysay,i know sod all about Facebook,MySpace,etc and have no particular wish to, theres many snakes out yon, and what was allegedly done was an act by one of these reptiles, for what its worth i reckon he would be a very wise man,to withdraw from those places.

Neil 05-03-2008 17:55
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 541119)
As I understand it .. you can only put something up on somebody's site only if you have been accepted as a trusted friend .. that means you can't see into his profile either, or view other's comments. Course his other friends can see them ..:confused:

The young lady poster was an accepted friend .. 'course might be getting this all wrong, but that's the way I see it ?
I am no expert on facebook but I can see most peoples profiles without being on there friends list. I suspect that a lot of people's friends are nothing more than acquaintances and not really friends. You have a few on yours Kate that I am sure you don't class as friends, just people you know.

The lady who posted that funny picture is on both Graham's and his girlfriends list of friends. She may in fact be a friend of Graham's girlfriend and not realise the awkward situation her posts may cause Graham. That was what I meant by why those types of sites are not always a good idea.

Gayle 05-03-2008 17:56
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 541119)
As I understand it .. you can only put something up on somebody's site only if you have been accepted as a trusted friend .. that means you can't see into his profile either, or view other's comments. Course his other friends can see them ..:confused:

The young lady poster was an accepted friend .. 'course might be getting this all wrong, but that's the way I see it ?

That's not quite right, katex. As far as I know you can only post on someone's page if you're a trusted friend but anyone and everyone can see them if you have a 'friend' who's linked to them as a 'friend'.

WillowTheWhisp 05-03-2008 18:03
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
I can only speak about MySpace but on there you can either make your profile public or private and if it's private you have to be ban accepted friend in order to post a comment and view the profile. I have people on mine who are real life friends. I have others who are online friends and I have some who are friends of friends and have become online friends. I have about 90 friends on there - some of them are musicians and people tend to assume that therefore they must be people I don't know. In fact it's quite ironic with mine that a lot of the musicians (or, in a couple of cases at the mo, soon to be ex-musicians) they are known to me personally. There are two 'friends' who I have never met nor even communicated with other than on myspace.

As regards the image on Graham's Facebook, I don't actually think the person who posted it did so with malicious intent. I think they saw it as a joke image which they had received from someone else and found funny and passed on to other people in much the same way that people pass on funny emails. It probably never even dawned on the poster that it could have been embarrassing for Graham if they didn't see it as embarrassing to themselves.

Gayle 05-03-2008 18:10
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I have a lot of friends on Facebook who I've never met and am never likely to - I play a lot of scrabble with them.

You can make your profile private so people can't view it but most of the time you can find people by finding other people and tracking through their friends.

katex 05-03-2008 18:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 541160)
That's not quite right, katex. As far as I know you can only post on someone's page if you're a trusted friend but anyone and everyone can see them if you have a 'friend' who's linked to them as a 'friend'.
LOL .. getting complicated 'aint it.

Well, I went through a certain person's friends and do not appear to get onto their friend's site to view their posts .. :confused:

Ah well, think he may have cancelled his account now anyway .. so maybe Neil did some good for him at the end of the day ... :rolleyes:

Tealeaf 05-03-2008 18:34
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
The first rules in life:

Never Apologise

Never Explain

I suggest Neil sticks to playing with his Ryddings Park bunny rabbits, rather than grovel every time some plan goes wrong.

WalkOnBRFC 05-03-2008 20:51
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 541119)
As I understand it .. you can only put something up on somebody's site only if you have been accepted as a trusted friend .. that means you can't see into his profile either, or view other's comments. Course his other friends can see them ..:confused:

The young lady poster was an accepted friend .. 'course might be getting this all wrong, but that's the way I see it ?
As an expert in Facebook :D.. when you create your Facebook page you can choice whether to make it for Public viewing or just limit the viewing to friends. Obviously an error was made when it was created.

WalkOnBRFC 05-03-2008 20:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 541159)
I am no expert on facebook but I can see most peoples profiles without being on there friends list. I suspect that a lot of people's friends are nothing more than acquaintances and not really friends. You have a few on yours Kate that I am sure you don't class as friends, just people you know.

The lady who posted that funny picture is on both Graham's and his girlfriends list of friends. She may in fact be a friend of Graham's girlfriend and not realise the awkward situation her posts may cause Graham. That was what I meant by why those types of sites are not always a good idea.
P.S. What were you doing rooting on his girlfriends page? :rolleyes:

katex 05-03-2008 20:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WalkOnBRFC (Post 541278)
As an expert in Facebook :D.. when you create your Facebook page you can choice whether to make it for Public viewing or just limit the viewing to friends. Obviously an error was made when it was created.
Oh right WalkOn .. better check what I did then ... :D

Not that anyone sends me owt juicy like ... :(

WalkOnBRFC 05-03-2008 20:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 541283)
Oh right WalkOn .. better check what I did then ... :D

Not that anyone sends me owt juicy like ... :(
After the Graham thing I've since been on and deleted everything off mine too. I did add a new catbook though today for my cat Lol. Katex I will send you stuff if you like Lol I get sent all sorts of rubbish but i ignore it most of the time. Now the poking I don't mind but depends who by Lol

slinky 06-03-2008 01:32
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
I have saved this apology....... I reckon it will be the first and last off NEIL :D:D:D:D

jaysay 06-03-2008 09:36
Re: Apology To Graham Jones
 
After reading this thread, the only thing I can say is how do you lot find the time, I spend around 6 hours a day on ordinary sites like this never mind the likes of Facebook.:confused: I think I'll pass on the so called social networking sites, I'd rather be on here where every one is nice, rude obnoxiuos, funny, caring, hepful just ordenary run of the mill really :D


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