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I noticed a sign in Asda this morning. As from tomorrow night they will not be selling alchohol on a Friday night between midnight & 6am.

Must be the normal prime time for 13 yr olds to buy alchopops ? :)

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probably is the normal time,after all its weekend.;):rolleyes:

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Na Dave any self respecting 13 year old buys their booze between midnight and 6am on thursday night, they don't want to spoil the weekenddo they:D

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Tesco have been doing this for a long time, but i think its from 10pm that you can no longer get alcohol

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This smacks of just a Google Page Ranking exercise to try and deflect the criticism being levelled at supermarkets for selling cheap booze or even below cost.

I wonder what their sales record is for selling booze during those hours?

When a liquor license is issued to a person to sell booze in their shop/store/pub/restaurant etc. it also stipulates the days and time that booze can be legally sold. Thus the seller must abide by the terms of the license or lose it.

Unless Asda has had its liquor license amended they cannot just arbitrarily state that no booze will be sold on a Friday night between midnight and 6.00am.

Asda is getting too big for its boots.

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How can it matter when they buy it -- it's when they sup it that is the problem

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What are you complaining about? I thought you were barred from Blackburn ASDA? If not, you should be.

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hey its just a sleight of the hand,to try appease the useless government doo-gooders.

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This is bad news, the way things are going ASDA is the only place left that you can buy cheap beer and stand in a sheltered area smoking whilst drinking it!
:mad:

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Dont take this the wrong way but you're missing the point. Whilst I agree that this may well be a Google Page Ranking exercise, ASDA, and any other retailer for that matter can refuse to sell anything for whatever reason they like. They dont have an obligation to sell and you dont have a right to buy. The license allows them to sell (within its terms), it doesnt require them to. When you take goods to the till, you are making an 'invitation to treat' and an offer to buy. They can accept or refuse your offer. They could, for arguments sake, decide that they are only going to sell products to 147 year old women wearing red jumpers and that would be perfectly lawful.

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i suspect the sales record in those hours is pretty high. have been down to asda quite a few times after midnight, (never many in) thats why i go, and have been amazed,most people have loads of cans/wine etc in trolleys these people are not kids,but seem very young to me.:)

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I think Asda would lose more profit ,if they stopped selling booze from 6 PM untill Midnight, i am sure theres not that many kids shop in the middle of the night

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theres a hell of alot more young uns than coffin dodgers like me do.:D

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This has nothing to do with the age of the consumer, as Asda have very strict policy on age restrictions and asks even the oldest looking 21+ people for ID. Same goes for any large supermarket.

She'll kill me for saying this bt my mum once got ID'd for cigarettes whilst with me in Co-op, and I can't even buy a scratch card even when I'm wearing my university hoody without getting asked for ID.

Its the corner shops that are the problem, not supermarkets.

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Nobody else has actually said why it's been put in place. As you obviously know then why didn't you tell us ?

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You are of course correct. The exact same point was discussed at length but one member was very awkward about accepting the truth. I can't remember if he ever did and can't be bothered reading 188 posts to find out. Have a read yourself mate, here is a link to the thread.

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My goodness that thread went on a bit!

to clear up an earlier point on this thread, most supermarkets have been pushed towards this stricter stance on alcohol sales for some time. Political reasons aside (and there are plenty of political influences on this policy) there are also legal reasons for it.

If a trader sells alcohol to an underage purchaser, it can be a defence for that trader to show that they have systems in place designed to prevent it - known as a 'due dilligence' defence. So by having a 21 policy they can argue that they are a responsible retailer with systems and procedures designed to ensure they comply with the law.

And Blazey has a point, its not just the supermarkets, its a much bigger problem and its quite staggering to look at the statistics on underage drinking since 1997, which is when alco-pops started to appear. The problem is much bigger than the odd rogue sale of alcohol.

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I hope you read all 188 posts, there will be a quiz later :D

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Maybe plans ahead to increase tax on alcopops and strong cider from the Tory party .. not sure if it would help. Suppose a start to conquer binge drinking, although a social problem really :-

BBC NEWS | Politics | Tories plan 'alcopops' tax hike

Don't worry fellas, won't affect yer beer ... (or my wine) ..:D

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Stupid Tory idea if you ask me. People will just drink more less strong beer abd cider.

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I think that it is you who is avoiding the point.

The licensing laws state WHEN A PREMISES HAS TO BE OPEN for the sale of booze and what types of booze can be sold. There used to be pubs and off sales that were only licensed to sell beer. There used to be one such pub on Shadsworth Road where it were joined by Rothesay Road in Blackburn. I accept that the vendor can refuse to make a sale but the vendor has to have a viable reason and see next paragraph but two. ***

By stating that Asda will not sell booze on a Friday between midnight and 6:00am they are in effect closing the booze selling section down for that time and are thus in breach of the licensing laws. Unless, as I have already stated, Asda has had their license altered to reflect their intention.

If a customer entered Asda between those hours with the intention of buying a bottle of rum or whatever and he was obviously well behaved and not under the influence of anything, Asda would have to sell him the rum. If Asda refused then the customer would have a case to take to the Trading Standards Office.

*** The fact that the goods are on display with a price tag is in effect saying that the vendor is willing to sell those goods at the displayed price and must accept an offer to buy them at the asking price, unless the vendor has a good reason not to sell.

If you take such goods to the counter with intent to buy (meaning that you have the wherewithal to do so and the vendor can see that you have) the vendor must sell them to you at that price. However the vendor can reduce the price if the customer and the vendor are prepared to haggle, but cannot increase it. Suddenly declaring that those goods are only for sale to a 147 years old woman wearing a red jumper is not a good enough reason – unless a notice to that affect is prominently displayed in the shop.

If the goods do not display a price tag then the vendor is not under any obligation to sell the goods. The goods are just on display and inviting an offer for them. The vendor can refuse any offer if he chooses to.

In practice no vendor is going to refuse to make a sale if it would be legal to complete it. Not if he wants to stay in business, he won’t.

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I was always under the impression that, when ASDA went 24 hours, they had a time limit on booze. I'm sure they did when they first opened up as 24 ( But could be wrong, so don't shoot me ).

Then all of a sudden, you could go and buy booze whatever time of day/night.

Now they have decided to go back to the first plan :confused:

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They were opening 24 hours when the old licencing laws were in place so they had to shut off the alchohol sections.

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Oh yes, I forgot about that.....thanks Dave :D

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So if they shut off the alcohol sections again theyre not breaking any laws then

*** The fact that the goods are on display with a price tag is in effect saying that the vendor is willing to sell those goods at the displayed price and must accept an offer to buy them at the asking price, unless the vendor has a good reason not to sell.
(from jambuttys above post)

as they are not displaying the items.

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The liquor license stipulates WHEN the premises HAS to be open to sell alcohol. The licensee cannot just arbitrarily not open when he chooses, unless he has applied to the local authority to amend the terms of the liquor license. The other side of that coin is that a licensee cannot extend his opening hours without first applying to do so.

Asda may well have done that.

If Asda has then the booze section must be cordoned off during those hours.

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Hate to say this but you are completely wrong. The licence gives PERMISSION. It does not give an OBLIGATION. ASDA dont have to sell anything they dont want to - its just that simple. You have no contract with ASDA as a consumer and they dont HAVE to sell you anything. I have both the applicable Trading Standards Qualifications and have been an Officer with Trading Standards for over 8 years so I'm sorry but you're just going to have to accept it.

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what makes ya think you are right Mikesz? you only work for em.:rofl38::rofl38:;)

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He knows ya know

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ASDA has never sold alcohol past 10pm as far as I was aware... they put barriers out at the one in Heysham so that u cant go down to aisles to get it.

Stores dont have to sell their products even if there isn't a time limit, so Asda could refuse you beer at 5pm if they wanted to and there is nothing under law that could help you, as it's all part of contract law and ASDA don't contract with you just because you've taken an item to the till...

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they have blazey i nip out many a time after midnight n me n everyone whose in is buying wine,booze etc

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Asda used to restrict the sale of booze. but when the extended licensing hours came in the restrictions got lifted I usually go to Asda about 6-ooam on Saturdays and people are buying booze.

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They have been doing it for years. :confused:

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They don't do that here, I went to ASDA on my birthday last month at 1am and they had the barriers up. Guess it depends on the asda and its policies.

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The one here doesn't, and obviously I haven't been buying alcohol for years :dummy2:

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well yer aware they do now.:D

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I don't often see the need to buy alcohol from asda after 10pm. I don't think it will have a major impact on my life, and as they already restrict it here anyway, and I get very little opportunity to go all the way to Asda, it really doesn't matter to me :p

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then why were ya opening yer big gob again if it don't really matter to ya?:p

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I'm just saying that I always thought Asda didn't have 24hr licencing on alcohol?

There's a lot of things said on the forum that don't really affect me as an individual but I have an opinion on them. Capital punishment for example has no relevance to me as I dont intend to kill or be killed, but I still have a stance on it.

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on many things i wouldn't call it opinion,i would say deliberatly obnoxious, which really rags some folk off, me it cracks me up,but then it would.:dflam:

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Cashy, if I had nothing to laugh about then I wouldn't have any reason to come on here and whilst there are lots of stupid things to laugh at, sometimes I just need to create my own humour.

However, what I have said in this thread is all serious, no humour is intended :p

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Isn't it the same with pubs though ? They have appointed licensing hours, but can open/close when they please ? :confused:

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I don't think Asda is the cause of underage drinkers anyway... you cant even get served for cigarette papers in that store without ID.

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You might not but as a shift worker I do. Many times I have done our Asda shop after a late shift. That means I could be getting around to the booze isle after 11pm. Just because I want to buy it at that time does not mean I intend to drink it. By limiting the times they are going to offend many customers.

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The only time I have ever gone to asda was after midnight and I cant say I was too offended at not being able to get it.

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tip, the onion skin pages of a Bible work just as well ;) ;)

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I find that offensive and yet I can understand your point. I don't smoke though!

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Why is it offensive?

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Well I'm Roman Catholic and I got to say normally I dont go ripping pages out of holy books...

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i too am R.C. and been to more masses than you had hot dinners, cos of me age, i cannot find it offensive, like i dont find " The Life of Brian" offensive cos its humour, which used to cover everything religion,colour, etc etc, now because of the prats in society it dont, if ya find that offensive,perhaps you would be better in another vocation? a CONVENT. as you often say- thats my opinion.:D

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I'm a red neck like cashy and have the same sence of hummer, well we laugh at the same things and people on here. I actually think some people are far to sensitive, If more people took things with a pinch of salt and have a laugh, there would be a lot fewer troubles in the world, and a lot fewer drunks trying to buy cheap booze at Asda:D

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Don't encourage them to chill out, the rest of us would have nothing to laugh at if they weren't so serious and we would all end up being the same as them :D

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What you mean we could all end up being jambutty's? :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

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God forbid, its bad enoug being jaysay:D

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ASDA is now doing challenge 25 so that means you now have to be 18 but look 25!!!! (and they are only accepting photo id proof so all you people who are lucky enough to not look 25 bring ya id!!!!!!!)
And as for stopping the sale of alchohol its something to do with Asda being classed as being near a town centre they did explain but i had switched off by that point!!!!!!

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I don't blame them. think how much money they would loose if they last their license to sell alcohol. The loss would not be only the sales of alcohol, all the people who buy booze with their weekly shop would more than likely go somewhere else for all their shopping.

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Ive not been asked for ID in a long time :(

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You must look really old then :p

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Just not bought alcohol in a long time. Dont get asked for ID for fags though but the fact I have the boys with me possibly helps

And yes, i probably do look really old

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Having kids does not help out guessing you age, do you never walk around Accy centre? :rolleyes:

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Oh yes!! Well dont just randomly walk round the town centre, i do some of my shopping there lol

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Is it just Fridays that this applies to? Is there perhaps some significance to a Friday? :pmellow:

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That's a Revelation:dancedog:

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You guys are lucky. In the puritan Province of Ontario, one can buy booze only from licenced outlets, with very restricted hours. All bars have to close by 2 am. For off sales, liquor and wine can be purchased only at LCBO (Liquor Control Board of Ontario) outlets, and beer thro' the Brewer's Retail stores: owned by the breweries and controled by the govt. The hours for these stores are 10 am till 9 pm. Sunday hours are shorter; they close at 5 pm. Liquor stores and beer stores are closed on statutory holidays. If you are too late, you have to find a bootlegger.:mad:

Things are a little more liberal in other provinces. In Quebec you can buy beer and wine (no liquor) in corner stores. And in most provinces apart from Ontario, you can buy beer to go in bars.

Thing is folks, there are major problems with underage drinking even with the limited access:rolleyes:

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I have found that nothing ages a woman faster more than
pain and marriage - for me they went hand in hand :D

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That explains everything!! - Now I have an excuse for the loss of my youthful looks

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Me too, hon:D:D:D

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Come to my checkout hun I'll ask ya lol

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It don't do bad job on blokes either Margaret:rolleyes::rolleyes:

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lol thats the way there going these days bottle of cider on a friday night sat on a park.
although i have noticd these "kids" are getting quite older i saw a 28 year oldsat on thepark with 12 and 13 year olds the other day.
how sad.

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Where do you work?? Itll give me a boost lol

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And the only times a man has to work overtime is in a relationship with a woman & to pay for her want's, (Ooh, my back aches).
http://planetsmilies.net/angry-smiley-1413.gif

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Accrington asda on checkouts only work thurs(12-5) fri(12-6) and sat(9.30-2.30) though lol. there is only one michelle on checkouts so ya should find me. Bring the boys so i know its you.

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I thought we worked overtime to keep us out of the house ;)

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You cant miss her emzy lol she is the good looking one.

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:eek:
Pass me a bucket, you old softie aleks lol (emzy just jealous coz no-one say that about her :( )

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methinks there is a lot to be said for living alone:hehetable

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I saw you today ;)

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Can't beat it Neil, but I do think I've gone deaf during the week sometimes:D:rolleyes:

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was in asda this morning, a voice oer tells ya ,ya cannot buy alcohol if ya don't look 25, i find this is insulting to our young lads, who join the armed forces, come home n then are refused a drink by asda, surely a better way would be fer the law to have more severe punishment fer the knobheads that abuse alcohol?

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Come on cashy you'll just have to remember your identification documents when you go shopping at ASDA:D:p

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Of course he will 'cos there's no way he looks 25.
:)

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I also found it very insulting, as they served me no question.:D

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its the same at tesco ..you have to look over 25 or have id ...

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is it any wonder ...... they probably heard of your exploits from their grandads... on how to behave in accy town centre .... :D:D:D

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You'd have stood a chance if you'd have kept your hat on:D