Mother condemns BNP's heroin leaflet
 

i was listening to 5live last night and this story came up where they had the vice pres of the bnp on and the family of the girl and the bnp refused to withdraw the leaflet or apologise as the pic was in the public domain and they could use it as they wanted without the parents permission

what do you folks make of it?? has anyone seen the leaflet?

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One only has to remember the leaflet that was in the public domain and cost the local Tories £7000 for copying it to know where this one can go

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Isn't this a bit like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted? And as for the leaflet; isn't 90% of the worlds heroin produced in Afghanistan? And isn't Afghanistan a Muslim country? Who else would you blame, the Welsh?

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seems to be american and british these days!

*L*

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The most insane thing about this is that it is being done with the connivence of both the British and American Govts, I sure both the RAF and the USAF each have equipment available to wipe out opium production in less than a month , why hasn't it been used ? ........lame ass excuses from politicians about "the poor farmers will starve and little afghan babies will go hungry" cuts no ice with me , an opium grower is no different than a street corner dealer....both are vermin and should be eradicated and if that means hungry little afghan babies dont grow up to be the next generation of opium growers so be it .

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the irony of the situation is that opium production was at its lowest during the taleban as they enforced a policy to wipe out the opium trade in afganistan as per islam

they wud punish harshly any farmers growing opium which was then reversed once the americans and british took over.

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I have to say steeljack I totally agree with you, about poor farmers starving, and babies will be hungry, its our kids they are killing for heavens sake.

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But that one was at least funny and showed that some politicians have a sense of humour. There is a thread about it on here somewhere.

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whilst i agree with manis comment,also steeljacks, to me the main point of the thread is our in-house vermin the BNP. and what saddens me is many can,t or won't see the dangers of them, and also our Lab/Con/Lib Mps are to blame for their prominence, cos they Refuse to take on board whats causing em to flourish. Enoch Powell did and was drummed out of his party, if anyone watched "Rivers Of Blood" the other night, it was as clear as daylight the man was right, where he slipped up was how he phrased it.:(

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I dont describe myself as racist, homophobic, and try not tto discriminate against any body of people whatsoever. In fact I was extremely anti-BNP for many a year,

HOWEVER

I do agree with a lot of the points they are now making about looking after our country and our people, and to re-prioritise funding. The fact that they seem to be the only party that would make a REAL difference to the Pensioners of this country can only be commended.

Yes they have more radical views, I think if they eliminated those, and went with the majority of the public opinion regarding race and so on, they would be a major force to deal with.

And I really do think the government should look to them as real competition and take on board the fact that our country is going down the cr*pper whilst we are busy helping the rest of the world out

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You only need to look back to 1930's Germany to understand why these type of parties get control

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i think we are both well aware of that fact,along with many people, its the clowns that govern (both parties) that do not seem to,or choose to ignore.:(

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I really can see something happening like that in the UK, hopefully it wont be quite as extreme.

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The BNP is not just about racism. It has a number of valid points on its agenda.

If the voting public were happy about the way the current government were running the country, and didnot feel discriminated against, there would be a lot less racism. If there were jobs, people wouldnt complain about the polish being employed; if there were more money, people would be more open to the immigration policy; if our country felt like out own as oppose to an the 52nd state of America, everyone would have their pride back

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the bnp DOES have some valid points on the agenda which the main parties arent addressing

but it does have some scary points too which is why they're on the edge.

everyone complains about the lack of jobs and how the polish have taken their jobs etc

which skilled well paid jobs HAVE they taken? there are jobs out there but there's a percentage of the unemployed who think its their god given right to have a total awesome job where they can chill out and be paid well. they dont want to put the graft in simple as.

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That's my boy, just give in a little at a time, to their propaganda and all of a sudden once they get a real toe hold into our political life watch not just the freedom of immigrants but the freedom of everyone shoot down the pan!
We are told that there is a war to be faught against terrorism, o.k. I don't want someone black, brown, green or blue over here blowing up innocents of any background.

But we also have to be careful not to go down what may appear to be an easy solution to this, blame my neighbour, that is all that the BNP does, there's a problem, oh it's the blacks, here's another problem, oh, it's the browns.

Hitler managed to convince a whole nation it was someone else's fault it's the easy path to take, let them in with promises for the elderly the poor downtrodden 'working class', white man, then when these evil minds have finished with those prejudices it will be so much easier for them to start on other's. The old don't contribute anything, the unemployed don't contribute anything let's send them the way we sent the others, after all now that we have power who can stop us?

I support no political party but if I was to sit down and take a good look at all of them the BNP are about the only one that I would fear not just for my life but for the lives of all ordinary people.

Of all racial backgrounds.

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the mother certainly has a right to be very angry, personally i aint surprised at ANYTHING the BNP resort to, the only people that may be are the retards that swallow their garbage. ( see neil i like it as well):D

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She has every right to be disgusted when it was her daughters picture being used without her permission. It doesn't matter what the purpose, its still not right to just use a persons photograph, even in the nicest of ways or a normal picture of a person.

The fact that the BNP is blaming muslims for the drug culture doesnt surprise me, but I have a friend friends who do drugs an the majority of their dealers are white chavs who also deal in heavier drugs, whilst the one muslim drug dealer they use is a really nice guy and only deals in cannabis, and whilst the law is the law and you cant justify drugs, I would rather have the asian guy dealing his drugs than the white british guys...

You also wouldn't find many muslims doing hard drugs themselves, and most definately girls wouldn't do drugs at all apart from the odd one, where as there are a lot more white guys and girls selling drugs and using them in my experience of our local drug culture. Anyone who falls for this kind of tactic by the BNP really should think twice before they lay the blame on another culture or country.

Yes most drugs come from abroad, but they come here because of the demand and they're more often spread around by people you wouldn't expect. It wouldn't surprise me if a few of the older people on the forum had a friend of a friend who could get them a bit of wacky backy for their aching joints and such if they were in desperate need.

I personally think some drugs are fine in your own homes causing no problems to anyone else, it's the pushers who entice the children with them outside schools and things that are the main problem, offering free samples so the kids get hooked and then do what they can to buy more. Its a sad world.

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What I am saying is if you look past that area of their manifesto, they come have some valid ideas. Of course this may be me 'giving in a little at a time to their propaganda', or maybe it could just be me looking at the whole picture and thinking' yes i agree with that', or 'no thats cr*p'.

If i was completely comfortable with the BNP offering, I would have voted for them by now. However I havent, but we cannot ignore the fact that they are probably one of the fastest growing political groups in this country, and should ask why?

The race of drug dealers is as irrelevant, as what they deal. These people are breaking the law and endangering the lives of children, be it by dealing the drugs, or in fact ruining their lives by user parents. Shouldnt matter if the dealers are black, blue, red whatever.


Until the BNP can get rid of their race-related points of view, I will never vote for them, but only hope that our present government will look at some items on their agenda and take them on board. However, until the people of this country are happy with the treatment of the elderly, the distribution of central funds and so one, the BNP will continue to grow.

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Oh and thanks for the negative karma

At least I have the guts to put my name to my opinion

And if you had read my posts properly, maybe you would have read that I am not a supporter of the BNP, and not even a voter of them, purely that I agree with some of their non race related posts.

So much for freedom of speech eh?

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Absolutely! Yet another 'improvement' brought to the world couresy of GWB and TB.

Another interesting fact is that we spend more on trying to catch drug dealers and treating drug addicts than it would cost to buy teh total output of Afganistan. Now to me simple econommics means buy teh stuff to destroy it and you have paid farmers a decent wage and taken teh product off teh market, would they grow more? next year maybe.. it would give us a year to 'encourage them to grow useful crops like food for the middleeastern and African countries where people are starving

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Cuts n pastes that for future bribery when Blazey is a top lawyer :D

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Havin just read the BNP manifesto, can someone tell me whats good about it???? Their is no way on Gods earth that if they got into power they could implement some of those idea's, Income tax lowered but raising spending?????
I am EBGLISH and proud to say so, I will even fly a Union Jack (sod the name flag) I refer to GMT rather than the now polictally correct UTC. But I will not be parry to what the BNP say, it is Fasisim pure and simple, there is no sense in what they say, just like the communist party. madness, pure madness.

People have a choice, they choose to try drugs and do them, they are aware of the dangers. If you smoke you know you are doing yourself no good but you still go on, should we get rid of the tobacco farms????

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I abhor the BNP and all they stand for. As some who, in the past, wrote letters to the press on a regular basis, which left no-one in doubt that my politics were right of centre, I was once targeted by the BNP. It was 1993 in fact it was 2nd of April to be exact, how do I remember, I picked up my post on he way in from atteding my Mothers funeral. as you can imagine I was not in the best of moods at the time, but when I got this rubbish in my mail, the language was choice to say the least. After thinking about a responce, I decided to contact Greg Pope, I rang the Labour office and as luck would have it Greg himself answered the phone. The upshot was that there was an article appeared in the Observer, highlighting the I had joined forces with Greg to condemn this literature. I have never recieved anything else from the BNP

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Those little sweetners, such as more rights for (white) pensioners, are there as a smoke screen. Do you really think this bunch of in-fighting morons have enough brains between them to manage the economy, for instance?

They may have realised, since their days when they were the National Front, that to attract those disillusioned with mainstream political parties, they need to appear more appealing than they did previously, but when you read their aims beyond the blurb, they still want the repatriation of non-whites, the recriminalising and imprisonment of homosexuals, as well as their political opponents.

Dress it up as they might, they still have more in common with German nazism, than anything else. Which is ironic really, for a group of people that supposedly celebrate Britishness.

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I cannot stand the BNP and any time anything comes through the door from them it goes straight in the bin.
I think it is disgraceful but not surprising that they used this picture without permission for their own gains.
I have read their manifesto and yes if you glance through you may find yourself agreeing with a couple of points but if you read it as a collective you quickly realise that if they were ever to get into power we are all in serious trouble.
Their is a big difference between returning British culture and out and out racism and imo thats what the BNP are all about.
Please people don't fall for this crap.

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The National Front started in th sixties and was more or less centred around Blackburn, their then leader lived in Blackburn I think his name was Kingsley Reid although I am not 100% sure, but if I'm wrong there will be some one to put me right. Since those days their modern day counterparts the BNP are far more radical, as some TV programs have proved, they also inclued groups like combat 18 a neonazi gang of numpties who tend to be more London based and are synonymous with football violence

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..and the local leader of the National Front in the seventies, now runs a bookshop in Oswaldtwistle.

Lets hope his political ideals have mellowed over time.

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I can assure you I have given no karma negative or otherwise for a while now, my post wasn't meant as a criticism of yours just a warning in general about the BNP.:o

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I assume the BNP are now classified as a mainstream party if there manifesto is full of bull****. :)

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indeed!!

and why start on drugs? why not start on society's biggest addiction? alcohol

DOWN WITH GUINESS!!

BURN THE OFF-LICENSES!!

:alright:

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Many apologies, that post was in no way aimed at you!

Just noticed the karma after my initial post and posted.

Really Sorry!

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Not with me still in it!:D

Ps... can ya find me another job?:o

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onlyme - ppl deduct karma for stupid reasons - i told a joke on here - and cuz someone had heard it b4 he deducted karma! *L* allow it...

accylass - the way u go on i'm sure sportlife will be more than happy to give u a job as their promoter!

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I might take in a proposal on my next visit:D

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Yes but it was a cr*p joke lol ;)

Wasnt actually me, honest

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Just an update on my own post 26 yesterday, were I said I contact Greg Pope about BNP leaflets through the post, I have since gone back through my records to 1993 with regards to this matter. What I forgot to say was the BNP used mail which appeared to be from the Save the Children Fund, it also appeared that they were using prepaid enveopes from a high street bank as well, so you see not very nice people:(

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I imagine BNP would send these leaflets through the post with funding meant to be for save the children with the argument that that is their very intention, saving your children.

There are so many BNP supporters on here that it surprises me that none of them have stuck up for their party of choice in this instance. What a surprise.

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If the BNP used monies not rightfully belonging to them this would be known as fraud, ask any 1st year law student, they will be able to confirm this.

There may be some BNP members on this site, but I don't think there are many.

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Less it was a joke about how unreasonable BNP are. Also, if you looked at the last poll there where more BNP supporters than any other party on this forum.

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agree with less there maybe a few,but it just goes to show what a waste of money are you at uni if you honestly think there are many.:tongueout P.S. another joke.

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Please direct me to the poll I must have missed it.

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It was this one;

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ort-36395.html

I think the more it wound somebody up that people were voting for the BNP the more they did it :D

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Thanks for getting back so promptly Blazey, Oh I see you've changed your avater again.

I wouldn't lay too much credence in that poll, it didn't show the names of who voted what, so a lot of folk will have voted that way to Tease the thread starter, I wonder if it worked?
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ya wouldn't mean = Popular as a fart in a spacesuit, would ya?:D;)

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If you READ the thread you will see many backing up BNP.

And I haven't changed my avatar for weeks, Charlie Mansons been there for at least a month. In fact I am due for a change :D

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Erm Blazey if you look, I was quoting lancsdave, not you it was that confusing humour thing again.

However I must agree if you haven't changed for about a month, it is well passed the time that either you put on something fresh or do what other students do and turn your clothes inside out so that they will last a couple more weeks.

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damn - i missed that poll i think :S

*slowly steps out of accyweb*

woah!

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If you READ the thread you will see there aren't. As I said before the more you ranted the more people voted for a wind up. It worked :D

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At the risk of being shot at dawn, and/or the receiving of more negative karma, I think the fact that there are many race related threads on Accy Web, predominantly around the Poles, and theyre taking jobs etc show the concerns people have.

As I've said before, I do not agree with alot of what the BNP is about, especially the extremist views that they hold, but I think its about time the Government realises that its country's people are worried, and tackle that.

I do agree with the BNP that the country needs to look after their own people as a priority with government funding. Why should we have pensioners that are struggling to keep their heating on through winter, when we are throwing money at other countries? Why, in this day and age, do we have people living on the streets and barely surviving, when we are spending god knows how many billions of pounds (and lives) on two wars that we didnt start?

I agree that the BNP should never get in power, if they did, i'd be the first on a plane, but until the Government starts to bring a bit of life into the country, they will continue to grow

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The thing is with politial parties onlyme, you can't pick and choose, its not a pick and mix stall, that is why there are different political parties. If we could pick and choose the best bits from all parties, wouldn't life be grand. I have been involved in politics for long enough to know that everything the other lot are saying is not a total load of rubbish, but that is how it is portrayed, this is more common place in local politics, there are good councillors as well as poor councillors in all parties, but one thing I do know councillors earn every penny they are paid because they are delling with the general public, and you can't keep all of the people all of the time happy, you kick one and some one else limps.

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People vote for the BNP for one simple reason, the main parties don't listen and have long since lost touch with the man in the street. Nobody would vote for the BNP otherwise. You can take with a pinch of salt a few votes but when they are winning council seats then you know that people are dissatisified with being ignored. No doubt some would say it's racists but there are too many voting for it to be simply dismissed like that.

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I can agree with that. I was at the Area Council meeting last night and one of the Councillors had been on Council work all day from 9ish in the morning till about 9 at night when the lights went out. She told me she had nipped home for half an hour for some tea before last nights meeting.

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Exactly what I have been trying to say. Perhaps I need communication lessons. Just call me Eliza lol.

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Thats not on Neil the cheek of the woman:D, is it any wonder the lghts went out:rolleyes: