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panther 10-03-2008 19:03

Boy, 16, admits park attack murder
 
16-year-old has pleaded guilty to the murder of 20-year-old Sophie Lancaster, the goth in the park.
The boy, who cannot be named because of his age,:mad: admitted murdering and causing grievous bodily harm to her boyfriend.

why oh why do they do it?,
is it the parents fault or is it all down to drugs or booze. because i havent a bloody clue!

Another thing thats winds me up to is not naming the little bastard who did it, just because hes underage:mad:...bollocks:mad:...sorry for language:rolleyes:

P.S...he was 15 years old when he did it!!

flashy 10-03-2008 19:05

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fookin ell, thats terrible

cashman 10-03-2008 19:07

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whats confused me,is the not naming of him.:confused: i know the law says under 17 cannot be,but i thought the swines that killed little Jamie Bulger were named?:confused:

lancsdave 10-03-2008 19:18

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I think the judge waits until he is sentenced before deciding he can be named. There is another lad who has denied the murder and they will have to wait until the end of the trial so it doesn't prejudice him by naming his friend. I'm sure we have a law expert who will tell us if thats correct.

cashman 10-03-2008 19:49

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 543821)
I think the judge waits until he is sentenced before deciding he can be named. There is another lad who has denied the murder and they will have to wait until the end of the trial so it doesn't prejudice him by naming his friend. I'm sure we have a law expert who will tell us if thats correct.

think that must be it dave, remember way back in the mists of time Mary Bell was named as a killer i think.

blazey 11-03-2008 16:18

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 543821)
I think the judge waits until he is sentenced before deciding he can be named. There is another lad who has denied the murder and they will have to wait until the end of the trial so it doesn't prejudice him by naming his friend. I'm sure we have a law expert who will tell us if thats correct.

That is correct, I guess it's because it's worse to taint a childs name before they are proven guilty than with an adult, though personally I think it should be like that with all accused persons.

jaysay 11-03-2008 16:49

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 543839)
think that must be it dave, remember way back in the mists of time Mary Bell was named as a killer i think.

I think the naming of an underage thug is only at the discretion of the judge, but with most judges being liberal minded they only name in rare circumstances, the killers of James Bulger were named as was Mary Bell, but I'll be very surprised if these little scrots are

blazey 11-03-2008 16:50

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You have to remember that Thompson and Venables where also tried in an adult court, so their case was a bit more unique than the average child case.

slinky 27-03-2008 18:34

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Boy 15 Guilty Of Sophie Murder (from Lancashire Telegraph)

Well the one that pleaded not guilty was found guilty!! which pleases me no end.

lancsdave 27-03-2008 18:44

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Originally Posted by slinky (Post 552872)
Boy 15 Guilty Of Sophie Murder (from Lancashire Telegraph)

Well the one that pleaded not guilty was found guilty!! which pleases me no end.

And been named :)

Eric 27-03-2008 18:49

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Yeh, Brendan Harris ... read an article in the Toronto Globe and Mail, which also named him.

slinky 27-03-2008 19:03

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 552874)
And been named :)

Yes, which was also a very good thing!! IMO

BERNADETTE 27-03-2008 19:09

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Hope they get a very long time

yerself 28-03-2008 14:56

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I've always been undecided as to whether the reintroduction of the death penalty would be be a good thing. It's the likes of these two low-lifes who make me think it would.

shillelagh 28-03-2008 15:18

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Ive read all about this in the rossendale free press back in august when it happened and when they arrested them and again now theyve gone to trial. Was listening to the radio and they say the youngest one who is 15 when he was in court him and his mum were laughing.

Now it was all on the news that the police chief is blaming some of their parents for this happening they havent brought them up right. No sense of discipline and no respect for others.

But what has got me more is this what Rob Maltby said he wishes that she had left him to die ran off so she would still be alive today and also that boys dont hit girls, men dont hit women - they seem to have broken every moral rule.

No morals worse than an alley cat - is what has been said in interviews with people from bacup.

Are they proud of themselves - they've now got all this publicity i wonder what its going to be like when they get to prison?

pam1 28-03-2008 15:43

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they o to Locke him up and throw away the key.
people like that should not be on the streets, 16 is no age i bet thay put it down to waching tv or vidio games.

Eric 28-03-2008 16:44

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In a recent case in Nova Scotia a teen was given a 6 year sentence for the brutal beating and torure of another girl. The victim survived the attack which included haveing lit cigarettes put into her ears. That sounds about right.

BERNADETTE 28-04-2008 15:39

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The scum who did this have now been sentenced. Brendan Harris got 17years and 106days and Ryan Herbert got 16years and three months. It is a pity they weren't locked up and the key thrown away but lets hope they serve all their sentences.

Lolly 28-04-2008 15:47

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So they'll be only in their 30's when they get out and can live the rest of their life unlike poor Sophie!! For scum like this life should mean life! Let them rot in hell!!!!!:mad::mad::mad:

jaysay 28-04-2008 15:57

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 568734)
The scum who did this have now been sentenced. Brendan Harris got 17years and 106days and Ryan Herbert got 16years and three months. It is a pity they weren't locked up and the key thrown away but lets hope they serve all their sentences.

Not a chance unless the judge said the 17 and 16 years were the minimum terrif, if not they will be lucky if they do ten years each:mad:

BERNADETTE 28-04-2008 16:00

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 568744)
Not a chance unless the judge said the 17 and 16 years were the minimum terrif, if not they will be lucky if they do ten years each:mad:

The judge has stated that is the minimum time they serve

jaysay 28-04-2008 16:07

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 568746)
The judge has stated that is the minimum time they serve

Thanks Bernie I haven't seen the news yet, but at least the scum will be off the streets for a few years, even though its nowhere near long enough

BERNADETTE 28-04-2008 16:10

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 568750)
Thanks Bernie I haven't seen the news yet, but at least the scum will be off the streets for a few years, even though its nowhere near long enough

Got to agree with you after what they did, unfortunately we don't have the death penalty:mad:

jaysay 28-04-2008 16:40

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 568753)
Got to agree with you after what they did, unfortunately we don't have the death penalty:mad:

Mores the pity

emzy 28-04-2008 21:06

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Bring back the death penalty!!


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