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steeljack 14-03-2008 02:33

drug/alcohol screening for job applicants in the UK
 
just curious , but do employers in the UK send prospective employees for a drug/alcohol screen before offering employment ? would be interested to hear from both private and Govt/County/Borough employers and employees ....usually (I think) I can spot a user/abuser during a preliminary interview and toss the application into the "round file" and it saves wasting the money of a test , but how does it work in the UK with all the rules and regulations you seem to have .

(yep, I'm an old reactionary fascist pig who has a bias against tie-dye, long hair, tattoos and piercings.......but been there and done that ;) )

lettie 14-03-2008 06:04

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The NHS don't routinely drug screen prospective employees. I have never been screened for either drugs or alcohol. In certain jobs, working with babies/children we are CRB checked to see if we have any previous offences against kids, sex offences etc.

jaysay 14-03-2008 09:55

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 545695)
just curious , but do employers in the UK send prospective employees for a drug/alcohol screen before offering employment ? would be interested to hear from both private and Govt/County/Borough employers and employees ....usually (I think) I can spot a user/abuser during a preliminary interview and toss the application into the "round file" and it saves wasting the money of a test , but how does it work in the UK with all the rules and regulations you seem to have .

(yep, I'm an old reactionary fascist pig who has a bias against tie-dye, long hair, tattoos and piercings.......but been there and done that ;) )

I'm afraid steeljack we have the good old European Human Rites Act in this country now:rolleyes:, can you imagine the uproar if firms were going to send would be employees just for a drug/alcohol test on its own:eek:. Some firms may request a medical of applicants, but whether they do these test then, I don't know.

cashman 14-03-2008 09:58

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never have to the best of my knowledge, like lettie says certain jobs like she says you have a Criminal background check, Hackney Taxi is one, yet Private Hire aint.:confused: i asked at the time i got my hackney lic, the reason? they said cos Hackney are allowed to pick up anywhere,Private Hire aint.:confused: and by the way Facist - ya wouldn't be giving me a job.:D

shillelagh 14-03-2008 14:04

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Ive had to go for medicals and theyve took blood tests there. Dont know what for though. Had too many CRB checks to mention.

jaysay 14-03-2008 17:46

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 545774)
never have to the best of my knowledge, like lettie says certain jobs like she says you have a Criminal background check, Hackney Taxi is one, yet Private Hire aint.:confused: i asked at the time i got my hackney lic, the reason? they said cos Hackney are allowed to pick up anywhere,Private Hire aint.:confused: and by the way Facist - ya wouldn't be giving me a job.:D

I think there is a differece between checking for Criminal background and screening for booze and drugs cashy, but I agree with you on the private hire and Hackney, its a joke, they both pick up people and therefore should be vetted, mind you I do think that a person applying for a private hre licence they have to proe they are a fit and prope person to hold a licence

yerself 14-03-2008 18:45

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And look what happened to one of Hyndburn's ex-Taxi Enforcement Officers. And this is the kind of person who (or used to) ensure our taxi and private-hire drivers are of good character.

8 June - Man Accused of £29k Fraud - Robin Hargreaves is to appear before Burnley Crown Court accused of fraudulently obtaining £29,114 from his employer Hyndburn Council. Hargreaves of Accrington worked in the licensing department and allegedly claimed that he had collected lesser amounts for licences than he had actually collected. He will appear on 27 June for committal proceedings

Sara 14-03-2008 20:07

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I work for County and no we don't have drug/alcohol screening. I had to have a medical which was laughable. After been in the job for a couple of weeks my boss asked did i have any medical reasons why i couldn't do my job. That was the medical.

garinda 14-03-2008 23:05

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I've never heard of anyone being routinely screened for drugs, when applying for a job.

From my years in the smoke, working in the decadent world of fashion, I think screening would mean you ain't got the job, if the test comes back negative.;):D

slinky 14-03-2008 23:21

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 545774)
never have to the best of my knowledge, like lettie says certain jobs like she says you have a Criminal background check, Hackney Taxi is one, yet Private Hire aint.:confused: i asked at the time i got my hackney lic, the reason? they said cos Hackney are allowed to pick up anywhere,Private Hire aint.:confused: and by the way Facist - ya wouldn't be giving me a job.:D

YOU do have to have a CRB for Private hire. Ginger had to have one for private hire. He has a duel badge now... but I know he had to be CRB for private hire.

garinda 14-03-2008 23:23

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Originally Posted by slinky (Post 546195)
YOU do have to have a CRB for Private hire. Ginger had to have one for private hire. He has a duel badge now... but I know he had to be CRB for private hire.

I had twelve taxis last week, to Burnley hospital, and never had Ginger once, or go to see his badges.:( :D

steeljack 14-03-2008 23:27

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I would have thought anyone applying for a job in a dangerous environment (refiney/chemical plant , steel erection etc.) would be liable for a test just for insurance liability ........not that they do much good , any coke or meth-head just lays off for a few days and drinks a load of cranberry juice to cover up any traces and then once they get hired its back to their old tricks

slinky 14-03-2008 23:28

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 546200)
I had twelve taxis last week, to Burnley hospital, and never had Ginger once, or go to see his badges.:( :D

TUT TUT .... ****** lugs, stop listening to them voices :D

If it was during the day, he don't start work til 5:30pm, so that's why you didn't see him :D

If you ever have a night appointment, it will be him :D

steeljack 14-03-2008 23:33

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 546185)
I've never heard of anyone being routinely screened for drugs, when applying for a job.

From my years in the smoke, working in the decadent world of fashion, I think screening would mean you ain't got the job, if the test comes back negative.;):D

and heres me thinking that the white stuff around Naomi Campbells nose meant that she had been doing the ironing and sniffing the spray starch :eek:

cashman 14-03-2008 23:37

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Originally Posted by slinky (Post 546195)
YOU do have to have a CRB for Private hire. Ginger had to have one for private hire. He has a duel badge now... but I know he had to be CRB for private hire.

ah i got me hackney in 1980, private hire it didn't apply then slinks. twas the offices up St James St ya had to go then n they were who i asked.;)

slinky 14-03-2008 23:39

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 546208)
ah i got me hackney in 1980, private hire it didn't apply then slinks. twas the offices up St James St ya had to go then n they were who i asked.;)

Yeah it's all changed now, both have to be CRB'ed. It's because of the contracts mainly. private hire do a lot of contracts with School children, so they all have to be checked.

cashman 14-03-2008 23:43

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Originally Posted by slinky (Post 546209)
Yeah it's all changed now, both have to be CRB'ed. It's because of the contracts mainly. private hire do a lot of contracts with School children, so they all have to be checked.

thats good i was a bit annoyed at the time,thought it was very wrong Private Hire didn't have to be. better late than never.

garinda 14-03-2008 23:50

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 546205)
and heres me thinking that the white stuff around Naomi Campbells nose meant that she had been doing the ironing and sniffing the spray starch :eek:

I could tell some tales about me and Miss Campbell, at a backstage party, after a Julien MacDonald fashion show at the Millenium Dome.;)


T'is a pity I'm soooo not a blather mouth.:D

shillelagh 14-03-2008 23:54

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I had to be crb checked and i was only stood on a reception with kids walking through to the sports hall etc

By the way did you know you should have the crb redone every 3 years - I found that out from work - there is no time limit on a crb but the powers that be say every 3 years a crb should be re done.

Bonnyboy 14-03-2008 23:56

Re: drug/alcohol screening for job applicants in the UK
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 545695)
just curious , but do employers in the UK send prospective employees for a drug/alcohol screen before offering employment ? would be interested to hear from both private and Govt/County/Borough employers and employees ....usually (I think) I can spot a user/abuser during a preliminary interview and toss the application into the "round file" and it saves wasting the money of a test , but how does it work in the UK with all the rules and regulations you seem to have .

(yep, I'm an old reactionary fascist pig who has a bias against tie-dye, long hair, tattoos and piercings.......but been there and done that ;) )

This is the UK, prioritisation is given to those who can’t string a sentence together in English. There are lot’s of employment agencies these days, I would say they predominantly use immigrant workers. I struggle to see how these people meet the basic H&S standards e.g. How to evacuate the workplace in the event of a fire.

Neither alcohol nor drugs are screened in most instances of employment being engaged.

nicola68 15-03-2008 06:58

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My husband has recently started a new job with an engineering company in the area he had to attend a medical at "Capita" medical services. At the medical he was screened for "street drugs" and had to inform them of anything that was being prescribed by his GP. The outome of this test proving positive would have meant that he would have had the offer of employment withdrawn straight away. This had happen very recently with one of the employees who had been working via an agency and had then been offered a permanent contract, he was instantly dismissed with no discussions.
I'm sure there are other employers out there that screen successful applicants.

lettie 15-03-2008 07:09

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My mate's hubby used to work for British Rail and he said that they had mandatory random testing for some of their employees.

I know the CRB is 3 yearly, I've just had mine done (again)...:rolleyes:

jaysay 15-03-2008 09:07

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 546217)
I could tell some tales about me and Miss Campbell, at a backstage party, after a Julien MacDonald fashion show at the Millenium Dome.
T'is a pity I'm soooo not a blather mouth.:D

Oh come on Rindi, you can't go all coy on us now ater wetting our appetites, but if you must be a gent so be it, but you could always take it to the over 18s:D


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