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It wasnt too long ago that i went shopping with my sister and her young son to asda, blackburn.
after struggling throughout the shop due to not being able to see where we were pushing the trolley......
(due to the baby seats being really high on top of the trolley -so blocking your view) (although i am getting to love my nephews toes:D).......we decided to get out whilst the going was good - it was raining, we had bought more than intended (us women eh :rolleyes:) and so we got a taxi.

it hadnt even entered my head until we sat down in the back of the taxi with my nephew on my knee...CARSEAT... what on earth are mums who dont drive but need to shop supposed to do

is there no law that states that taxis should have seats to accomodate young children ?

just wondering

( and if anyone dares to suggest that she should carry a car seat then you know where you can put said car seat :D V)

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thats of a govt website

so if there's one there a child has to use it if not then they dont

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for children over 3

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Its impractical though because you cant strap babies into the normal seat, and by using the word restraint it implies a seatbelt must be used by law, yet putting seatbelt around you AND a child is dangerous.

It is most certainly impractical for a taxi driver to have a car seat but should practically come trumps over safety? I think not.

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Maybe they could at least carry a booster seat in the boot for times like this! i know it dont solve the whole business but would come in handy al the same.

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Seemingly the new rules do not apply to taxis. It appears that in a taxi you are ok to just sit in the back with the baby on your knee.

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the problem with taxis carrying car seats is that they will be as cheap as possible and you cannot say whether they have been in an accident or not, which means they may be more dangerous in the event of an accident. the law says that the child doesnt have to be in a car seat if you are only travelling a short distance and it was unexpected, this applies to taxis as it obviously ridiculous to expect parents to carry a car seat on the off chance they might get a lift from someone they know or a taxi.

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Is it only short distances in a taxi that you don't need a car seat for, Emamum, or all taxi journeys?

What if you were going a fair distance in taxi and had to go on the motorway? :confused:

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its a strange one this to me,dont think its practical/viable for a taxi to carry this gear, whilst can see the point of having one, not many go long distances with kiddies in em, more folk use em that are carrying much luggage, (airports etc) and the luggage space is crammed, if they were actually in the cab it would restrict a full compliment of passengers, can't see how its viable:confused: in fairness the majority are catered for over the minority.

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It's not practical for a PARENT to carry a car seat, but it's practical for a Taxi driver to carry a Child seat, on off chance a sprog will get in?? yeah right!!

And what happens to the shoppers shopping at ASDA, when they need an empty boot??

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I said the taxi should at least carry 1 booster seat in the boot or in the back they are easy enough to move out the way if they are not needed and a booster seat can be as cheap as chips they still do the same job safely.

At the end of the day i would rather a booster seat be used for my child than not if the taxi were to crash at least then i would feel better knowing that at least a booster seat had been used for at least one of my children, better something than nothing!

Im sorry but i would rather a child lived and i squashed up 1 bag of shopping in the boot or put the bag of shopping in the back with me than for any kind of injury or worse to happen to any child for the sake of a bag of shopping which would be the size of the booster seat.

Obviously a taxi cant cater for all the different car seats that in reality could be needed and yes children will still need to travel on knees but i would still feel safer if at least 1 child at some times could have use of a booster.

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All Taxis should have to have something like this fitted in the rear Car Safety - Child Seat Belt Adjuster and related Products You can use them instead of a booster seat as they are crash tested to ECE R44/03. The law states a suitable child restraint tested to ECE R44/03, it does not say a child booster.

I have one in my car for Tom. The seatbelt now fits him correctly and he is not sat on a plastic box.

They now sell them in Halfords for £10

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Well, I hope they bring the law in that all Public vehicles have to be fitted with child safety seating!!! Oh the fun of a bus, with 50 Child seats in the boot!! FANTASTIC

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How about if they kept a few at the taxi ranks and when you phone for a taxi state that you have a child and would like them to sit in it?

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Another question. If your Child free mate offered to give you a lift somewhere.... would you expect her to have a child seat, because she has a car?? :rolleyes:

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I wouldn't be happy for my children to travel in a car without being properley strapped in but when we were kids we didn't even have seat belts in the back.

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NO their scruples would vanish out the window, for a FREE lift, before paying for a taxi, wouldn,t be so holier n though then.:rolleyes:

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So the general consensus seems to be that
taxis can legally ride with children/babies without them being restrained

and that

having a car seat or booster in a taxi would be terribly inconvenient for those wondeful people who automatically think they make up the majority (shoppers with no children who need EVERY bit of space in the boot)

well what a terribly British attitude -i'm alright Jack s***w you- oh and by the way your glass of cider is not only half empty i have just peed in it :D

maybe there could be dedicated times/days of the week where taxis have car seats in them, provided and checked by asda, that mums with young babies could use of the mums i work with i get the general idea that they have a certain shopping day and try to stick to it .
does anybody else have any ideas ? (on how it could be helped) maybe it is something we could change

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I don't understand why people take children with them to supermarkets.

When I had a toddler (Asda was on Bbn Rd then)- I never did.

Shopping is stressful enough without being lumbered with children (and husbands for that matter) :rolleyes:

I appreciate that single parents would need to ask grandparents or other single parent friends (taking turns) to have care of children whilst making a shopping trip.

Supermarkets are not children friendly places, unless you treat a ride in a trolley for them as a pleasure trip - I'm sure that novelty wears off for them very quickly.

I find that they are often places where children have temper tantrums to the extreme annoyance of other shoppers - that shows that the children are stressed too.

So why on earth do you take them with you?

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My grand-daughter will not travel in my car with her youngster because I do not have a car seat, she walks when ever she can or gets on a bus if too far to walk.As for taxis she couldn't afford them anyway.

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then yer grandaughter is one of the sensible ones, who obviously does not expect everyone else to cater for this.

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my expectation is not that everyone should cater for mums with young children, but should we not be moving with the times?

and as for taking children with you shopping - we make it a positive thing he has never had a tantrum yet and as he is getting older he enjoys helping his mum (who now has a car so its not even a problem anymore)
why should she not take her son with her - he is not an inconvenience to be got rid of he is her son and she enjoys his company.

*perhaps i should take the view that the motorized trolleys in asda are taking up the space of at least two extra trolleys each - and why cant other people do their shopping for them if they cant walk around themselves- they often block up the aisles i cant get my trolley round them

*and rude people shouldnt go shopping either as they are always ramming peoples ankles.

* i dont actually have these views, but we make compensations and adjustments for these people so that they can easily access shops and have a "normal" life without having to constantly rely on others for help -why should it be diferent for mums or dads for that matter, who have young children, without cars?:confused:

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EXACTLY, but in todays society, you get parents that think it's OTHER peoples responsibility for the safety of their children.

Me personally, I would buy a child seat for a car, and take it if a car didn't have one!! But then again, I take the responsibility of my children on my own back, don't expect other people to do it for me.:rolleyes:

It's already been said that these seats are " 2 a penny " so RESPONSIBLE parents should cater for their own bloody children.

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I stick my granddaughter in the boot to stop my cans rolling about.never had any trouble yet.But on a serious note a taxi boot has to be big enough to hold a bail of hay.

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Because I would get arrested for leaving Emily who is 2 1/2 at home watching TV on her own when I go shopping.


Can I suggest that post for a "dumbest post" award please. Or maybe in the "not in the real world" section. :rolleyes:

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You will note that I did not suggest leaving the child in a 'home alone' situation :mad: , but with the other parent, a grandparent or a friend who is also a single parent

Your frequent excursions to the over 18 section is causing loss of vision?

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Spot on slinky. If you have a child and you want to put it in a car then you need a car seat. If not then walk.

In my post above I linked to the new seat belt adjusters that are crash tested to the required standard so comply with the law. How many of you are using old booster seats from your previous children that have not been tested to ECE R44/03? I suspect you are in breech of the law and could be fined as though the child was not in a booster seat at all if the seat you use does not have this test mark.

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I did not have children to palm them off on someone else at every opportunity. I want to spend time with my children, they enjoy going to Asda or wherever and it allows us to spend time together. I get precious little time with them as it is with working shifts.

They go to school and nursery when I am off during the week and I work many weekends.

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im not having a go margaret, but i am on my own. i usually do my shopping when my lad is at school but with him being off i have to take him. if i lived near my family or had any friends willing to look after him then i would but thats not possible for everyone.

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Your frequent excursions to the over 18 section is causing loss of vision?


No response or apology ? or have you used up all your apology mode lately

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this just about sums it up
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Brilliant Jack - tried karma but given you too much lately :D

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No response because I did not know what it meant

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I think Margaret means that over 18s activites are supposed to be bad for your eyesight, Neil. ;)

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It was the apology bit I was confused about

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Extract from Neil's post
"Can I suggest that post for a "dumbest post" award please. Or maybe in the "not in the real world" section."

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Well if you mean that post then no apology is needed is it.

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Awwww I love it when your being a Bitch :D

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Thanks .

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Margaret, let's have a trip back to the real world where not everyone is happily married and has a loving, reliable partner to look after the kiddies whilst mum goes shopping, or indeed where a single mum can rely on her mum to look after the kids.
Margaret, smell the coffee. I am 40 , I have only recently started leaving my daughter in the house alone for any length of time, she is a well built 12 year old and I still worry. I work full time, I can't shop during the week, my mum is older than she would like you to know and though she is very young in her outlook I would not impose on her as she doesn't drive and lives a distance from me.
Before you start proselytising about how it was in your day....take a walk in my shoes. !

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I was 11 before mum would trust me to be left in the house on my own. Even then she locked me in and i didnt have a key to open the door!

What happens if you have moved here following your job, your families are 60 miles away, you have no friends here - you've only just moved here and dont know anyone round here who do you leave the kids with then? Would you leave your kids with neighbours you've only known 10mins? If you think yes then you dont deserve to have kids.

Kids going shopping is a learning experience for them. How else do you expect them to know about the different types of veg and fruit, the value of money, different types of food, etc

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You are getting confused between your house and the secure unit you lived in. The secure unit was the one with padded walls so you did not hurt yourself.

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he's always a bitch, never stops being a bitch , infact he's more of a bitch than i am :D

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Shut it or I wont let you play with my mind reading pussy cat I emailed you.

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tried opening that and it did nothing, you tart

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it works for everyone else that has it, must be you

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probably, this pc is naffed :(

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Lets hang on a minute here, there is all this talk about child seats in cars, taxi's and the like what ever happened to walking ocassionally with kids in the pram, you don't see many Silver Cross's on the go these days. When I was a kid (I know it was a long time ago), there was no need for car seats, because nobody had a bloody car, and as for taxi's, they were unheard of in this neck of the woods, London maybe, Accrington no chance. There is a lot to be said about todays standard of living, everybody wants everything today, whether they can afford it or not, thats why we live in a plastic society, and there is so much debt. My mother always had a saying, which I'm sure she didn't realise it was coined by William Shakespeare "niether a borrower nor a lender be" that as always been my yardstick, because I hate owing anything to anybody:(

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ya got it in one jaysay,whilst advancement n progress are great things, many old values i'e. responsibility being one -have eroded.;)

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it wasnt possible to walk home with the amount of shopping we had and a pram - her partner had left her - she had no money and i went with her on the prtence of getting a couple of things for myself but was actually planning on getting a months shop for her

i dont drive i dont have a car i only get buses if i really need to and trains are a treat
so what if i get the ocasional taxi because i cant carry the shopping home - how many people get in their car to go to the corner shop ?

i have never said in any of my posts that " taxi's should have carseats in them" i just asked

"what on earth are mums who dont drive but need to shop supposed to do

is there no law that states that taxis should have seats to accomodate young children ?"

it was a question not a statement - but then i thought oo wouldnt it be nice for a mum with a young child to be able to get in a taxi and feel as safe as she should in this day and age?
how many people put their child into a car to drive round and get them to sleep ?
i take my nephew in the pram round the block (anybody living on the grange in ossy may have seen me or my mum and thought we were casing the joint after the tenth time round the block lol)
i dont really care for myself - i dont have my own children - my sister now has a car with a carseat - just wondered how other people felt that is all
bitter, selfish,narrowinded and arrogant are the words that come to mind
yet again people judge and refuse to see the bigger picture.

so before you make a statement - why not ask a question first?

maybe i should have started this thread with the question

are there any mums/dads out there whose life might be improved if there were taxis available with child car seats in them ?

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Tell me about it keetah, you can tell those who haven't had to juggle small child, buggy and shopping can't you ? :rolleyes:

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cant you just - hey maybe we should ring them next time we want to go shopping without the young uns' lol