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shillelagh 17-03-2008 00:03

Toddler dies
 
I thought methadone was supervised so why has this happened?

BBC NEWS | England | West Midlands | Toddler dies after drug overdose

slinky 17-03-2008 00:04

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God almighty, what a bloody shame :mad:

shillelagh 17-03-2008 00:19

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His brother who is 3 month old has been overdosed as well.......whats their parent thinking of?

I always thought methadone was given out by the pharmacist - it wasnt taken from the premises. Because this isnt the first time this has happened is it there was one a few years ago the kids had got hold of the parents methadone and drank it and i thought the rules were changed then.

cherokee 17-03-2008 00:44

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Omg How awful.
I agree jen always thought methadone was given under supervision.

flashy 17-03-2008 08:19

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awww thats bloody awful :(

panther 17-03-2008 08:22

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very sad:(, poor things!
why the hell are these kids with these people in the first place!!??

Less 17-03-2008 09:36

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 547031)
very sad:(, poor things!
why the hell are these kids with these people in the first place!!??

Yes it is a very sad story, but nothing has been said about from whom or how the children got this drug, so although it is natural to assume that 'these people', shouldn't be caring for children perhaps, before we nail them to a cross, we should wait until all the facts of the case are revealed?
:(

panther 17-03-2008 09:42

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It is thought the brothers may have mistaken the green liquid for cough mixture.....

What im saying Less it IMO, no child should be in the supervision of people on drugs, or methadone!!

but i know where ya coming from;)

jaysay 17-03-2008 09:44

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 547031)
very sad:(, poor things!
why the hell are these kids with these people in the first place!!??

I think its all to do with these people having rights panther, pity the dogooding brigade don't think about the rights of these poor kids who are not old enough to look after themselves and look to society to make sure they are protected, no doubt some social worker with a masive case load will end up copping the flack as usual, instead of the faceless wonders who fade away when things like this happen

Loz 17-03-2008 15:38

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Such a shame.
Sometimes there is no justice in this world.

lindsay ormerod 17-03-2008 16:04

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It's not always supervised, it's down to the discretion of the drug team dealing with the individual case, in any case most addicts on methadone get double doses on a saturday to cover them for sunday, so in theory if the mother and her partner were both on unsupervised methadone they could have had 4 bottles of it in the house.

jaysay 17-03-2008 16:59

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 547208)
It's not always supervised, it's down to the discretion of the drug team dealing with the individual case, in any case most addicts on methadone get double doses on a saturday to cover them for sunday, so in theory if the mother and her partner were both on unsupervised methadone they could have had 4 bottles of it in the house.

There should be better control when its known there are children in that house, people who have drug problems can't look after temselves let allone children, but alas its always the children that suffer

Loz 17-03-2008 17:09

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 547231)
There should be better control when its known there are children in that house, people who have drug problems can't look after temselves let allone children, but alas its always the children that suffer

Exactly.
If anybody should of died because of this it should have been the irresponsible druggies and not a little kiddie.

cashman 17-03-2008 19:24

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the best control of all is take the kids away, Smackheads recovering or otherwise, are NOT responsible parents simple as n if that offends anyone TOUGH.:(

panther 17-03-2008 19:26

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 547324)
the best control of all is take the kids away, Smackheads recovering or otherwise, are NOT responsible parents simple as n if that offends anyone TOUGH.:(

here here!!!

ya took the words right out of me head;)

derekgas 17-03-2008 19:30

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Methodone and the like should only be given on doctors or pharmacy premises when the addicts have children, this way, they would have to get off thier a**e and get thier fix, and the drug would not be left within the reach of children, I suspect though that many addicts would go for the fix, and leave the children at home alone and perhaps in equal danger, so maybe removing the children is the best option (beginning to sound like a dogooder omg).

grego 17-03-2008 19:31

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Its such a shame but not at all uncommon, we used to have addicts who received weekly scripts for methadone, most were on daily collection and the doses can be really high, though it wouldn't take much of it to kill a child. You really have to blame the parents, they dont deserve kids, I've seen lots of addicts kids being dragged up and it makes me sick that these poor kids are in this situation.


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