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mani 24-03-2008 18:05

Are the beatles still as relevant as their heyday?
 
whereas i'm not knockin their legacy or their music etc

but do we really need to know that an engineer or a friend of the beatles has died?

Benipete 24-03-2008 18:32

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Originally Posted by mani (Post 551316)
whereas i'm not knockin their legacy or their music etc

but do we really need to know that an engineer or a friend of the beatles has died?

I assume you mean Norman Smith (Hurricane Smith) or known to John Lennon as Normal Norman.Well yes I think we do but if only for the fact that he was a recording artist in his own right.I've still got his hits on tape etc. He also helped to launch many other 60s group's including Pink Floyd.A true professional who gave a great deal of pleasure to many.:jimbo:

yerself 24-03-2008 18:41

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Have they ever been relevant, if so what to? The most over-rated bunch of scousers ever; along with John Coleman, Jimmy Bell and The Accy Stanley scouse mafia.

Benipete 24-03-2008 18:45

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Originally Posted by yerself (Post 551330)
Have they ever been relevant, if so what to? The most over-rated bunch of scousers ever; along with John Coleman, Jimmy Bell and The Accy Stanley scouse mafia.

Wish I could be overrated -know wat i mean like Lah:hidewall:

mani 24-03-2008 19:08

Re: Are the beatles still as relevant as their heyday?
 
its like ok they did this and that conquered america etc - but does that mean for the next 50 years we're gonna hear about engineers of take that? or oasis?

shakermaker 24-03-2008 19:23

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For better or worse is debatable, but The Beatles changed the world.
Their influence will carry on for many decades to come.

West Ender 24-03-2008 19:23

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Originally Posted by mani (Post 551343)
its like ok they did this and that conquered america etc - but does that mean for the next 50 years we're gonna hear about engineers of take that? or oasis?



Well....no, because they were not such a phenomenum. The Beatles were just a part of the "revolution" that was the 60s. Like it or not things changed irrevocably, whether for better for worse is open to discussion, and the Beatles, their music, the fashions and the morality of the time were all part and parcel of the "scene". They became iconic, due to some talent and a good deal of clever marketing, and it follows that things and people connected with them are going to attract attention.

shakermaker 24-03-2008 19:26

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Great minds think alike eh West Ender :rolleyes:

Benipete 24-03-2008 19:27

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Don't think they ever used any -but if they did and they had hit records you may well do.Tchaikovsky had a hit in the 60's

West Ender 24-03-2008 20:01

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 551360)
Tchaikovsky had a hit in the 60's



What was that then? :confused:

MargaretR 24-03-2008 20:11

Re: Are the beatles still as relevant as their heyday?
 
The Rolling Stones emerged at the same time but did not get 'parental approval' then (due to drug use)

I preferred them (the Stones) then and now....and at least they are still playing

shakermaker 24-03-2008 20:16

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 551389)
I preferred them (the Stones) then and now....and at least they are still playing

Lol, I don't think The Beatles can be criticised for not playing anymore, seeing as two of them would be doing it posthumously :rolleyes::D

Benipete 24-03-2008 20:17

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 551395)
Lol, I don't think The Beatles can be criticised for not playing anymore, seeing as two of them would be doing it posthumously :rolleyes::D

Three:theband:

shakermaker 24-03-2008 20:20

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 551396)
Three:theband:

I know Ringo's albums don't make the charts but I assure you he ain't dead :rolleyes:

MargaretR 24-03-2008 20:26

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 551395)
Lol, I don't think The Beatles can be criticised for not playing anymore, seeing as two of them would be doing it posthumously :rolleyes::D

They had a big 'falling out do' before any died - about royalties :rolleyes:
If they were all still alive I doubt that they would be touring as the Stones do

Benipete 24-03-2008 20:27

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 551384)
What was that then? :confused:

Nut Rocker.

MargaretR 24-03-2008 20:30

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 551403)
Nut Rocker.

I thought it was Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen :confused:
but then I'm not a classical fan - could be wrong

Benipete 24-03-2008 20:31

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 551400)
I know Ringo's albums don't make the charts but I assure you he ain't dead :rolleyes:

I know,He's on tour.

shakermaker 24-03-2008 20:35

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 551401)
They had a big 'falling out do' before any died - about royalties :rolleyes:
If they were all still alive I doubt that they would be touring as the Stones do

The Beatles retired from touring four years before they broke up.
I like that The Beatles weren't resurrected at any point. For me, a big Beatles fan, it further encapsulates the enigma that is them and their music.
Like, I love The Who's music, but they should've broke up when Moon died and even more so when John Entwistle died a few years ago. The tour de force that was The Who is now two weak old blokes who are losing their credibility because there's no decent new material.
Likewise I believe The 'Stones should've given it up long ago because now they're just doing it for the money. I lost all respect for the Stones when they claimed all the royalties for The Verve's 'Bittersweet Symphony' back in the nineties. Money driven fools. They sold out completely :(

steeljack 24-03-2008 20:40

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Once the next generation get into media and journalism management and positions of "power" and no longer have to put up with the early on-set alziemers reminiscences of aging baby boomers the hype about the Beatles and all the other 60s stuff will eventually just fade away and then the 60s sound will just be nostalgia, something featured on "all our yesterdays" like the big band sound listened to by earlier generations .

West Ender 24-03-2008 21:16

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 551403)
Nut Rocker.


Oh yes, I remember that. I think poor old Peter Ilyich might have been revolving in his grave - especially as he didn't get any royalties. :D

mani 24-03-2008 22:15

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well i was reading abotu rolling stone magazine and how it was critized for placing too much emphasis on the 60's70's stuff in their top 100 singles ever and the mag was generally aiming for that kinda music rather than lookin at music as a whole. it completely missed the launch of hip hop and heavy metal in its early yrs and it has re-reviewed alot of the early stuff inorder to balance it.

that i think is one of the biggest signs that slowly its all gonna b moving on and eventually ppl will talk of the white stripes etc just as much and give them their due

Benipete 24-03-2008 22:18

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 551452)
Oh yes, I remember that. I think poor old Peter Ilyich might have been revolving in his grave - especially as he didn't get any royalties. :D

The point being He is still remembered 115yrs after he died and who's to say the Beatles won't.Certainly sold more records.(Pyotr) by the way.:D

cashman 24-03-2008 22:58

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the rolling stone probably missed the start of hip-hop etc deliberatly.:D

MargaretR 24-03-2008 23:00

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 551490)
the rolling stone probably missed the start of hip-hop etc deliberatly.:D

I missed it too - must have blinked

WalkOnBRFC 25-03-2008 09:12

Re: Are the beatles still as relevant as their heyday?
 
Who are The Beatles :cool::D

jaysay 25-03-2008 09:20

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I saw the Beatles at King Georges, along with Gerry and the Pace Makers Cilla who were suppor artists to the late great Roy Orbison (as cashy reminded me in the music section the other week) what did I think of the Beatles live back then, absolute unadulterated CRAP. That still did not stop me from becoming a huge fan and have every L.P. they ever made, and most of them now on CD.

Benipete 25-03-2008 10:26

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 551570)
I saw the Beatles at King Georges, along with Gerry and the Pace Makers Cilla who were suppor artists to the late great Roy Orbison (as cashy reminded me in the music section the other week) what did I think of the Beatles live back then, absolute unadulterated CRAP. That still did not stop me from becoming a huge fan and have every L.P. they ever made, and most of them now on CD.

You're right of course but i would have been kinder and said they were not very good.But they learned their trade as we all do and became the legends of pop that they are.I also have all their LP's.

Less 25-03-2008 10:37

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 551400)
I know Ringo's albums don't make the charts but I assure you he ain't dead :rolleyes:

I think benipete is referring to the original drummer Pete Best, rather than his usurper.
;)

Benipete 25-03-2008 10:45

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 551611)
I think benipete is referring to the original drummer Pete Best, rather than his usurper.
;)

Pete Best isn't dead either it was Stuart Sutcliffe that died at a very early age.

Less 25-03-2008 10:47

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 551614)
Pete Best isn't dead either it was Stuart Sutcliffe that died at a very early age.

Oop's if he isn't dead I must have gone to the wrong funeral!:D

Less 25-03-2008 10:58

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 551615)
Oop's if he isn't dead I must have gone to the wrong funeral!:D

The ham sandwiches were very nice but this would explain the confused look on the grieving widows face when I said I'd seen him perform live in Germany!

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