Queen Elizabeth II's legacy
 

:D
I know it's a mickey take but it does raise the question - what has she done in her reign other than wave?

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she's smashed champagne bottles against ships, shes given maundy money out every year, shes knighted people and given out CBE's and MBE's, she's represented britain throughout the world at conferences etc, oh and opened parliament for 55 years - sometimes i bet she wishes she hadnt!!!

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Such hard, meaningful work...

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Would you like to do it? I am sure I wouldn't but he ho our queen means nothing to most people. I would really like to predict how "Great Britian" would have turned out without her. Alas I can't but can you? I think she is a great leader, what the follow up crew have to offer is anybodies guess. But will bet my last dollar it isn't very good.

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interesting concept .... (sorry bit of a wander) if the German bombs that hit Buckingham Palace in WW2 (Queen Mother " now I can look the East End in the face" ) had taken the royal family out , would Churchill have brought back the Duke of Windsor ? a friend of Hitler or put the drug addled Duke of Kent on the throne or gone for the country squire the Duke of Gloucester or would he have taken Cromwells route and made himself "lord protector" ......wonder if there are any records rat-holed away

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I suppose you'd rather have had President Blair, followed by President Brown skaker:eek::eek:

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I think being the queen is one of the hardest jobs, i think shes done a stirling job.

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Very interesting point.

Now as for the Queen's legacy do we really want royalty that have ennough power to leave a legacy?

as it is she has waved her hand, shook other hands, smiled nicely, produced an heir, and above all she has not changed the country's religion, declared war on anyone,caused any major scandals or raised any taxes shes just got on with the job and let everyone else do the dirty work.
Compared with some of her predecessors she has done a marvelous job.

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Very interesting point.

Now as for the Queen's legacy do we really want royalty that have ennough power to leave a legacy?

as it is she has waved her hand, shook other hands, smiled nicely, produced an heir, and above all she has not changed the country's religion, declared war on anyone,caused any major scandals or raised any taxes shes just got on with the job and let everyone else do the dirty work.
Compared with some of her predecessors she has done a marvelous job.

Even those of us who don't particularly approve of her job's existance cant find much to object to.

Re: Queen Elizabeth II's legacy
 

Very interesting point.

Now as for the Queen's legacy do we really want royalty that have ennough power to leave a legacy?

as it is she has waved her hand, shook other hands, smiled nicely, produced an heir, and above all she has not changed the country's religion, declared war on anyone,caused any major scandals or raised any taxes shes just got on with the job and let everyone else do the dirty work.
Compared with some of her predecessors she has done a marvelous job.

Even those of us who don't particularly approve of her job's existance cant find much to object to.

Dont ask why this is here thre times!! Can some moderator delete it please?

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The Queen and the monarchy is part of the British political system, in the same way that the Presidency and the President) is part of the American system. Both are democracies, and both have much more in common than most people are prepared to admit. Elizabeth ll has done her job well ... and it is as Granny Claret says, a difficult job ... she reigns but she doesn't rule; she has been a staunch figure of continuity in a troubled world. She may be a little old fashioned, but only in the sense that duty, honor, and patriotism have become old fashioned. She has put her personal interests second to the good of the country. And, by the way, she is Queen of Canada and is popular in most of the country outside of Quebec. (And even there she is tolerated rather than villified.) Our war planes still bear the logo RCAF, our ships are HMC ships, the bulk of our armed forces in Afghanistan belong to the Royal 22nd Regiment (which, by the way, is a francophone unit ... while the French in Afghanistan are repeating their heroics of 1940, the only french soldiers fighting are Canadians) supported by the guns of the Royal Canadian Horse Artillery, the tanks of the Royal Dragoons, and the CF-18s of the Royal Canadian Air Force.

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The Queen's legacy?

Why of course, it's that tree huggin', defender of faith's', 6 O-levelled but still managed to get into Cambridge, infamous adulterer, her son, and our next King, God help us, Prince Charles.

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C'mon, Charley's not a bad lad ... not too different from most of us really:D ... except he has more money and a guaranteed future. Whatever, I still think the monarchy is cool.

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Probably because you are not paying for them

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Whatever other royal is a waste of space,and there are quite a few,,YOU CANT KNOCK THE QUEEN,she,s been a gem...

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Good point ... however, the taxpayers of Canada do pay for the Govenor General, who is the Queen's viceroy in Canada ... not as much as you pay for the Royal Family, but still a fair chunk of change.

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And the taxpayers in the individual provinces (for those who are geographically unaware there are 10 of them + Nunavut, the Yukon and the North West Territories) pay for their Lieutennant Governors, who represent the Queen in the provinces.

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It would have had to be Harry, the Duke of Gloucester, next in line, as the Duke of Windsor had totally abdicated sovereignty for himself and his heirs. The Duke of Gloucester was educationally backward and extremely childish but would have been easy to manipulate in difficult circumstances. His eldest son, Prince William, was a handsome chap with a few brains (he got an MA in History at Cambridge) but he died in a plane crash when he was about 30. The younger son, Prince Richard, is a qualified architect (MA again from Cambridge). In the above circumstances he would now be the king so at least he would have been useful when Windsor Castle caught fire as he could have designed the repairs we paid for. It amuses me that he was the president of the Institute of Advanced Motorists but he lost his licence for 6 months for his 3rd speeding offence - Twerp.

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Interesting ... the King is dead, long live the King .... but who? There probably are records somewhere .... govts. have to have contingency plans. It would make a good book, or a PhD thesis from some aspiring academic. But the British govt. has a very bad record on doctoring war time records from both of the wars. If there are any records they could be found in the archives of the Dominions as the British govt shared all records with them. In order to write his book "Haig's Command" Denis Winter found uncensored govt documents in the Canadian and Australian archives.