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I've noticed a bunch of anti-conservative sentiment here that I feel is unfounded.
There's the whole issue of Thatcher. Sometimes it feels like the only reason people are not voting Conservative is because of what she did or how she went about it, 30 years ago. Can we please talk about present day issues, surely they are what count. I've noticed some people who just dislike Tories, with no real explanation. Is this a Thatcher issue or are there more underlying reasons, such as disagreement with policy? If you have issues with the Conservatives as they stand today, a party who has been forced to change after 11 years of Labour, then air them here, let me respond and tell you how I feel about it. I'll answer questions as honestly as I can because I want people to discover what the modern Conservatives are actually about. |
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Which differs from the Labour bashing you constantly do on here how? Unfounded? It's called democracy. We, yourself included, are allowed to speak their mind. Happily, unlike some, I'm not a member of any political party, and therefore have no hidden political agenda. |
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I believe opinions should be backed up, so if you feel I've acted out of line on any criticisms then please supply the evidence where I've misrepresented Labour and question me on it. I started the thread to encourage honest, harsh and direct questioning. If you have a question, feel free. |
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I'd like to ask how David Cameron plans to address the lack of enthusiasm the modern electorate displays in politics. I was looking at the statistics for local elections in Manchester recently and the voter turnout was less than 30%. I get the feeling modern politicians patronise those who care about issues and pander to people who wouldn't vote in the first place. It really frustrates me, and I don't see Cameron's tactics as being particularly encouraging (not that Labour's have recently either).
I've always believed that those who vote for the candidate they'd like to have a beer with should drink a beer and leave the voting to the adults. I don't think modern Conservative policy addresses this problem, and instead indulges it. How do you feel about this? |
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For one, I have a big problem with the Tory leader David Cameron. He swans about the media acting like such a caring person - all the while not really saying anything politically strong. But wait - I thought that this Tory party, allegedly, is a new style Tory party that wants to bring about BIG changes to the New Labour ways we have become accustomed to?
The example that springs to mind is what I saw when I was flicking channels a few weeks ago. It doesn't really matter whether you saw it or not as he is the same in every TV appearance. I put ITV on and I saw Mr Cameron on 'This Morning'. Oh he was lovely; listening to people's sob stories, nodding his head sympathetically, giving incredibly helpful* sentimental statements for change in Britain... urgh. To me, his leadership of the Tory party gives me the impression that the only challenge they put towards New Labour government is that it's not Tories in charge. It seems to me that the Tories would be doing more or less the exact same things just with a different spin. Every mission statement is so ambiguous, every criticism so obvious, every word just bland and meaningless. How you don't see beyond his act is beyond me mate. * (incredibly meaningless and vague) p.s. This post is coming from a person with no party bias at all. Yes, I did like Gordon Brown when he first stepped into Blair's shoes, but that affection has eroded. He's lost the backbone he promised. |
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Ok, two questions.
Are you in favour of the weighted candidate lists that Cameron brought in, which has resulted in a larger representation of women, ethnic minorities, and gays, or do you think the best qualified person for the job should be selected for a seat? The new Tories: out of the blue - Telegraph Question two. Are the Tories really in favour of equality for all, when a recent poll of Conservative M.P.'s revealed that... 'on several key questions Tory MPs are deeply divided. For instance, against the view of Mr Cameron, just 46 per cent of Tory MPs agree that gay couples should have the same rights as heterosexual couples, with 54 per cent disagreeing. For comparison, 83 per cent of Labour MPs and 92 per cent of Lib Dems agree.' Have they really changed, or are will they say anything in the hope of once again forming a government? Tories still not won over by liberal social attitudes - Times Online |
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Blimey, this ask a Tory a question is long winded.
Twenty minutes is too long to wait for an answer. I'll try and contain my eagerness to see the answer to my question tomorrow. New technology! Bah, humbug....it's only as quick as Cyfr can type.:D |
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Would i be better off under a tory government?
Dont forget im on long term benefits. |
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I think we should start by devolving more powers to local government, allowing them to have greater control and flexibility. Along with this we need genuine transparency, so we know who is responsible for what, and where the money is going. Transparency is a huge problem, so many people distrust politicians, and so many people have no idea who is in charge of their road upkeep, or who is responsible for something as basic as emptying the bins in the park. I think people can see through politicians who are all style and no substance. You might have noticed the criticisms in Cameron's first year as leader. He was trying to change the party itself, and had no real policy, making him an open target to the delight of Blair and the papers. You're right. I don't think either the Conservatives are doing anywhere near enough to promote participation in non-general elections. Another idea I have is to have an even number of councillors per local ward, and have elections constituency wide, rather than having the rag-bag situation of current where some peoples wards are up for election while others are not. People won't feel engaged if they don't always have the chance to vote. |
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Personally I believe that people should be able to do what they want. It's not the states role to tell people who they can and can't have relationships with and I think Labour have got it completely right with civil partnerships, allowing gay couples to be recognised by the state. I do think the party has changed. I don't adhere to this position of 'are they just saying it to get in power' no matter which party is accused of it. If a party puts forward a good policy which is therefore popular with the electorate, then fair game to them, because electing them will get that policy into government. |
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I struggle to see how this thread isn't just ANOTHER reason to draw upon the negativities on the Conservative Government, so I think this thread is pretty stupid, especially as the person answering the questions may have done his politics assignments but he still has no real ground as a Tory...
I don't think anyone 100% backs a political party and its policies. I for one am against the Tory notion of saving the post offices, but still I vote Conservative, so the fact that there are differing views within the party regarding homosexual marriage is hardly surprising is it? I'd be a bit concerned if an entire party of politicians shared the same views about everything, it'd suggest that they're either lying or they aren't focusing on enough issues, at least that's what I think. I also think that one person on a forum dominated by everything but tory voters who claims to be able to answer everyones questions in general about the Tory government is naive, and the amount of time people have had to wait for responses pretty much shows this. Now look, you've turned the tory supporters against you, whatever next?! |
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At local council level does the Tory party allow their councillors to vote the way their consciences dictate or do they have to vote according to party line?
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Does that help, if you think I can expand or have a counter question please feel free! |
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My own personal view is that they should be allowed to vote with their consciences, especially in ethical situations. Although most of the time they'll vote with each other because they have similar political opinions. |
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'Gay couples should have exactly the same rights as heterosexual couples', which resulted in only 46% of the Conservative M.P.s polled agreeing, compared to 83% for Labour, and 92% for the Lib Dems. Populus Limited > Poll Archive > Parliament Panel - 09.05.07-01.06.07 Another question. Considering so many areas of the country are affected by the blight of drugs, isn't David Cameron's repeated refusal to answer the question as to whether he has taken illegal drugs, either at school, university, or before becoming party leader, another indicator that he is just another politican who cannot answer a straightforward question, or is his refusal to answer truthfully for a totally differing reason? I'm not asking you to answer for Cameron, but do you think he should answer what to all extent and purposes a fairly straightforward question? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1386936.ece |
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Why on Earth is David Cameron elected as leader of the party, when he has the leadership qualities of a sheep???
The only thing on his side is the fact the the labour party are so far up the USA's lower orifice that Cameron cant fit. Dont get me wrong, he may be someone you can nip to the pub with, but to run the country? Maybes not. |
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Was planning on inviting up him up here, preferably on a friday night, might open his eyes a tad ;)
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By the way, that's not a sink estate, but the 300 acre Normanby Hall estate, where the family has resided since 1590. Very man of the people. |
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Guy Fawkes had a good idea, blow the lot of them up.
I vote conservative, several reasons really, one of which is that we all are being taxed to death by Gordon and his mates. Our lads and lasses out in Iraq, Afganistan and elsewhere are not being given the tools to do the job, no support when they come home, whether or not you agree with the war is not the point our troops dererve our resect and support. Hospitals now in the worse state they have ever been in, I could go on but do I really need to. If we vote Labour back in, I think we will as we are so short sighted, then the country will really go down the pan. :hidewall::hidewall::hidewall::hidewall::hidewall: |
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Next question.:)
Would a Conservative government redress the anomalies where by, in a supposed United Kingdom, Scotland allows it's elderly people free residential care, without the need to sell their homes or use their savings, unlike in England, and gives Scottish students free university tuition fees, again unlike England. In Wales prescriptions are free, which is not the case in England. We also have the case where Scottish M.P.s vote on legislation that only affects English and Welsh law. Would a Conservative government change this stupid situation brought about by partial devolution? |
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On the subject of devolution also, would the conservatives stop the funding that is issued to Scotland and Wales for the very voter friendly intiatives that are subsidised by the English tax payers, but cannot be offered to them? |
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Best grounding you can have Mr. Cyfr is out on the doorstep doing a bit of canvassing;)
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Cyfr you'd make a good tory!!:rolleyes:..*coughs*
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Interesting point garinda, no I do not advocate acts of Treason, as I believe that trying to destroy the Houses of Parliment would be classed. I just thought that maybe a bit of light humour was needed.
So you are not a Conservative voter, so on the question of the Scotish rights and for that matter the Welsh get free prescriptions as well, they were introduced by Labour, so can I take it that you voted for them in the last General Election? |
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I suppose it's the same sort of humour that other comedian Kenny Everett exhibited at the Tory conference in 1983, when he came on the stage and announced 'let's bomb Russia'. Given the current situation regarding terrorism in the country, personally I don't find that sort of statement funny. |
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I'm a member of no party, and have only ever stated on this forum that I have voted for Labour, though I have voted for other parties too, so you don't know who I have, or haven't voted for in the past. My questions regarding the anomalies brought about through devoltion don't hide the fact that they were introduced by the present government. My question was what would a Conservative government do to change them. Even in this thread I've been critical of this government, if you'd care to read a little more carefully, rather than jumping to assumptions for which you have no proof whatsoever. |
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Right okay very nice.
Gardina, I drive a Boeing Aircraft for a living, every day when I get on it, I check ALL compartments for Bombs, Terrorists etc, I am subject to more security searches than you are as a Passenger, I hold a Restricted Airside Pass and had to go through many security measures to get it. I will be one of the first people in the UK to get an ID card as Aircrew are going to be first. The door to my flight deck is Armoured and Locked at all times from prior to push back until after engine stop. We do open it so we can pop to the loo and have food brought in, but only after viewing the CCTV. If we have a Hijacker on board my instructions are to turn off the intercom from the cabin, turn off the cctv and land asap. Even if the hijacker threatens cabin crew or starts killing people, they are friends and I have to make the desision to let them be killed, because of the greater good, if that happens, I will have to live with the fact that I let people die. A terrorist can plant a bomb on my aircraft and kill me, he can fire a rocket at me and kill me. When my wife says goodbye to me she knows it really could be the last time she ever sees me. SO I THINK I HAVE THE BLOODY RIGHT TO MAKE HUMOR OF THIS SITUATION. WE CALL IT GALLOWS HUMOR. So please do not have a go at me for trying to make light of a bad situation. and you say I jump to assumptions |
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I take it not losing your temper, and not remaining calm under pressure, isn't a pre-requisite to becoming a pilot? |
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I am calm, I will not discuss this further. I believe I made my point.
If you are trying to rattle me, it has not worked. Your not a troll are you? |
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Slinky you will be fine. I would not fly if I did not feel safe
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Cyfr, you can tell me a bit my "local" candidate Clive Fisher, all I can glean is he defected from the Lib Dems after geting beaten into 3rd place in 2005 when he stood against Dorothy Westell and PB in Ossy. I don't recognise his face, the leaflet that arrived today doesn't tell me anything about him or even where he lives. I would be suprised if he knows where the Peel ward is. Any info?
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Even worse is when they do it mid-term. I think it shouldn't be allowed, if they want to change parties there should be a by-election. Hardly shows a man of principle or conviction. |
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Blimey, it's a bit slower than when Gayle did her live question and answer session re: the Panopticon.:rolleyes:
It must be because as a woman she is used to multi-tasking.;) (...and of course her swift replies to questions had nothing to do with her being a former Labour candidate.):D |
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This lively political question and answer session is fast becoming as drawn out as a debate in the House of Lords. I'd better find a cushion and make myself comfy.:D |
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The only thing that I question about Conservative Policy is the Post Office issue, and I really don't want to have to bring it up again. Can we see a return for fox hunting? That'd be nice :) |
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Anyway, interesting thread...so far, so karma due.:) Though I do disagree with your answer about Cameron, and the question if he's ever taken drugs in the past. Apparently there are plenty of people out there who could reveal the truth, so an honest answer would be much more refreshing than all this dodging of the issue. |
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By the way, still waiting for a comment on this, now I've clarified the wording of the question asked.:mosher: |
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I'd be surprised if the Conservatives disagree with civil partnerships, as Alan Duncan the Conservative shadow business secretary has become the first member of any cabinet or shadow cabinet to have a civil partnership. I have no doubt there will be some 'traditionalists' who disagree, but I don't think the split will be as divisive as the poll makes out. |
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The wording of the question seems very straightforward to me.
There is no mention of either marriage or civil partnerships. Just the statement 'gay couples should have the same rights as hetrosexual couples'. Which resulted in only 46% of Conservative M.P.s agreeing with the idea. Which leads me to assume that whatever liberal ideas the current leader may have, the rank and file old guard of the party are still the same old bigots. |
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