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Royboy39 26-04-2008 20:59

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Originally Posted by baillieman2 (Post 568109)
Garinda - remember to take the handbrake off and, hey presto, your fuel consumption will reduce dramatically.

Careful pal......very temperamental...will put you on his 'No No' List :dummy2:

lindsay ormerod 26-04-2008 21:56

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Stupidly busy at Spar on Burnley Rd this morning but according to my well placed source there is 40 days worth of fuel stashed at any given time.

baillieman2 26-04-2008 21:57

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No worries; been on that for at least five years.

Royboy39 26-04-2008 22:10

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 568127)
Stupidly busy at Spar on Burnley Rd this morning but according to my well placed source there is 40 days worth of fuel stashed at any given time.

I wonder why? fuel supplies for Lancashire come from Merseyside not Grangemouth. Keep a look out for the ones who profit from news - not reality. If the Station that you use for your petrol put up the price for no reason, go to another one.

steeljack 26-04-2008 22:17

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 568127)
Stupidly busy at Spar on Burnley Rd this morning but according to my well placed source there is 40 days worth of fuel stashed at any given time.

40 days supply on hand at your local petrol/gas station ? , or 40 days supply on hand in national stockpiles ? :confused:

Royboy39 26-04-2008 22:26

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 568139)
40 days supply on hand at your local petrol/gas station ? , or 40 days supply on hand in national stockpiles ? :confused:

The likes of Tesco and Asda have the money to buy petrol up front and make a fortune from the flak that hits the fan following any hickup....but what about the local trader who has to full his tanks and run a business on petrol sales - and pay up front for the petrol and the high rate of tax that is also due for payment up front..........he does not stand a chance, and that is why we get a very unstable market.....The public purse gains and GB has more money for his economic mess?

shillelagh 26-04-2008 22:56

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Spug says:

The spin has already started up there. INEOS says it wants to invest £750m into the refinery to bring it up to date but something which might not be profitable to where pensions are not viable why are they investing this money? Also keep an eye on your gas prices - because about 30% of the gas comes through Grangemouth refinery at Kinneil. They've shut the forties pipeline which brings the oil into Kinneil but gas also comes through Kinneil as well.

Royboy39 26-04-2008 23:07

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 568152)
Spug says:

The spin has already started up there. INEOS says it wants to invest £750m into the refinery to bring it up to date but something which might not be profitable to where pensions are not viable why are they investing this money? Also keep an eye on your gas prices - because about 30% of the gas comes through Grangemouth refinery at Kinneil. They've shut the forties pipeline which brings the oil into Kinneil but gas also comes through Kinneil as well.

We are experiencing the wroth of high finance.
What can we do about it..........nothing.
Pay what they say...do what they want..and may you burn in hell :dflam:

garinda 27-04-2008 01:03

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Originally Posted by baillieman2 (Post 568109)
Garinda - remember to take the handbrake off and, hey presto, your fuel consumption will reduce dramatically.

What can I say?

I like that rubbery smell, and besides, driving you around the hills of Lancashire made me nervous.

Nice avatar by the way.

It's brought out a side of me that makes me want to lick the screen.:eek:

emamum 27-04-2008 01:05

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there are rules at petrol stations.... they have to keep a certian amount in the tanks at all time.. so when they say they are empty they arent really.

steeljack 27-04-2008 01:20

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one of those email things that float around in e-space
(and before the whinging starts NO , I do not know who wrote it , and niether do I care . )

TIPS ON PUMPING GAS
>
>
>
> Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the
> early morning when the ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all
> service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder
> the ground the more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline
> expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not
> exactly a gallon. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the
> temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other
> petroleum products plays an important role. A 1-degree rise in temperature
> is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have
> temperature compensation at the pumps.
>
>
>
> When you're filling up do not squeeze the
> trigger of the nozzle to a fast mode. If you look you will see that the
> trigger has three (3) stages: low, middle and high. In slow mode you should
> be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapors that are created
> while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapor return. If you are
> pumping on the fast rate, some of the liquid that goes to your tank becomes
> vapor. Those vapors are being sucked up and back into the underground
> storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.
>
>
>
> One of the most important tips is to fill up
> when your gas tank is HALF FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the
> more gas you have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space.
> Gasoline evaporates faster than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have
> an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the
> gas and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service
> stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature
> compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact amount.
>
>
>
> Another reminder, if there is a gasoline
> truck pumping into the storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill
> up--most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas is being
> delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on
> the bottom. Hope this will help you get the most value for your money.

entwisi 27-04-2008 10:16

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ian pats lpg tank in his volvo :D

as for teh post above, I've not lauged so much for a while. If petrol evapoarted and vented so quickly every car would stink of the stuff.

Ground temperature doesn't vary that much irrespective of above ground temp. Look at very frosty mornings, if all liqued unedr water froze the whole drainage syetem woud be a stinking blocked up mess.

jambutty 27-04-2008 12:59

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 568284)
ian pats lpg tank in his volvo :D

as for teh post above, I've not lauged so much for a while. If petrol evapoarted and vented so quickly every car would stink of the stuff.

Ground temperature doesn't vary that much irrespective of above ground temp. Look at very frosty mornings, if all liqued unedr water froze the whole drainage syetem woud be a stinking blocked up mess.

Petrol does evaporate very quickly. That’s what makes it so volatile. People often state that they have been driving on fumes when they are short of petrol, little realising that is precisely what everyone is doing all the time – full tank or not. By the time that a drop of petrol is squirted into the cylinder it has turned to vapour (fumes) and it is the vapour that explodes when a spark is introduced.

Spill some petrol on your hand and within a few seconds your hand will be cold. That’s because the evaporating liquid draws the heat out of your hand. Did you never do that experiment in science class at school where a Petre dish was filled with water and a small dish filled with petrol was floated on top. Actually we used meths but the principle was exactly the same. As the meths/petrol evaporated it turned the water into ice. The experiment failed if you used say paraffin because it evaporates much more slowly.

Ever heard of permafrost? Where the ground is frozen solid to a depth of a few feet. Not in England of course because it doesn’t get cold enough. But it does on land above the Arctic circle.

It seems to me that you were so intent in trying to ridicule steeljack’s post that all you did is make yourself look stupid with; “Look at very frosty mornings, if all liqued unedr water froze the whole drainage syetem woud be a stinking blocked up mess.”
Liquid under water?


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