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mani 01-05-2008 16:58

Nelson Mandela is a terrorist!!
 
... or so the USA believes...

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Nobel Peace Prize winner and international symbol of freedom Nelson Mandela is flagged on U.S. terrorist watch lists and needs special permission to visit the USA. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice calls the situation "embarrassing," and some members of Congress vow to fix it.
The requirement applies to former South African leader Mandela and other members of South Africa's governing African National Congress (ANC), the once-banned anti-Apartheid organization. In the 1970s and '80s, the ANC was officially designated a terrorist group by the country's ruling white minority. Other countries, including the United States, followed suit.

MargaretR 01-05-2008 17:30

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It just goes to show how as time passes attitudes change.
One man's terrorist is another man's martyr.
Only the final outcome, after a century, reveals, to persons no longer affected,- who were the 'goodies' and who were the 'baddies', because atrocities were being committed by both sides.

garinda 01-05-2008 17:58

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They'll be banning Gerry Adams and Martin McGuiness next.

Hang on, no they won't, they liked, and funded, that particular style of 'freedom fighter'.

MargaretR 01-05-2008 18:04

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George Bush is a terrorist, but he masquerades as a 21st century crusader :rolleyes:

steeljack 01-05-2008 18:18

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 570037)
They'll be banning Gerry Adams and Martin McGuiness next.

Hang on, no they won't, they liked, and funded, that particular style of 'freedom fighter'.

I'm saying nowt , just going to wait for Bullseyebarb (more eloquent than me ) :D :D

garinda 01-05-2008 18:19

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 570061)
I'm saying nowt , just going to wait for Bullseyebarb (more eloquent than me ) :D :D

Go on. I dare you.

I promise to call 911 if she pistol whips you too badly.:D

Eric 01-05-2008 19:56

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 570061)
I'm saying nowt , just going to wait for Bullseyebarb (more eloquent than me ) :D :D

I don't think she is more eloquent than you .... just better armed:hidewall:

Eric 01-05-2008 20:17

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 570046)
George Bush is a terrorist, but he masquerades as a 21st century crusader :rolleyes:

GW is too stupid to be a terrorist ... in fact if he were any more stupid, he would have to be watered twice a day. It's hard to believe that the sperm that created him beat out 1,000,000 others.:alright:

bullseyebarb 02-05-2008 16:35

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 570037)
They'll be banning Gerry Adams and Martin McGuiness next.

Hang on, no they won't, they liked, and funded, that particular style of 'freedom fighter'.

The U.S. government never funded the IRA. The organization received private donations from American citizens of Irish descent. The IRA may also have engaged in a little Belfast bank heist to the tune of $50 million. Or so the British government suspected. Sinn Fien also indulged in money laundering according to Ireland's Justice Minister. Several police raids were conducted - as recently as '05, I believe, netting around $6 million.

bullseyebarb 02-05-2008 16:40

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 570125)
GW is too stupid to be a terrorist ... in fact if he were any more stupid, he would have to be watered twice a day. It's hard to believe that the sperm that created him beat out 1,000,000 others.:alright:

For God's sake get over this man! I can hardly wait for January, 2009 so that you can commence billing and cooing over either Barak or Hillary. Either one of them will certainly be left wing enough for you.....so I don't expect to hear any more griping. OK?

mani 02-05-2008 16:43

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*LOL*

the day after george bush isnt president i expect a scene out of the simpsons where they all slowly come out of the houses and say is that it? is it over? can we come out now? everyone its over we can come out!! oh glorious freedom!

Eric 02-05-2008 17:41

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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb (Post 570529)
For God's sake get over this man! I can hardly wait for January, 2009 so that you can commence billing and cooing over either Barak or Hillary. Either one of them will certainly be left wing enough for you.....so I don't expect to hear any more griping. OK?

Hi Barb ... I knew you were out there somewhere .... check out my Clinton joke in Anything Goes, you may get a chuckle:D i don't know how I would voter if I were an American citizen ... the Democratic race is interesting to say the least ... but, surprisingly enough, I like McCain ... don't really trust Barak ... and with Hilary? Reminds me of what Mitterand said of Maggie Thatcher: she has the legs of Marilyn Monroe and the eyes of Caligula.:hidewall:

Eric 02-05-2008 17:45

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However, I still think Bush is depriving a village somewhere of an idiot:eek:

garinda 02-05-2008 17:55

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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb (Post 570526)
The U.S. government never funded the IRA. The organization received private donations from American citizens of Irish descent. The IRA may also have engaged in a little Belfast bank heist to the tune of $50 million. Or so the British government suspected. Sinn Fien also indulged in money laundering according to Ireland's Justice Minister. Several police raids were conducted - as recently as '05, I believe, netting around $6 million.

I didn't say the U.S. government funded the terrorist who blew up our men, women, and children.

'They' referred to your fellow countrymen, those partial to wearing green, and the ones happy to fund the bombs and guns that were used on our streets.

bullseyebarb 02-05-2008 18:12

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 570573)
Hi Barb ... I knew you were out there somewhere .... check out my Clinton joke in Anything Goes, you may get a chuckle:D i don't know how I would voter if I were an American citizen ... the Democratic race is interesting to say the least ... but, surprisingly enough, I like McCain ... don't really trust Barak ... and with Hilary? Reminds me of what Mitterand said of Maggie Thatcher: she has the legs of Marilyn Monroe and the eyes of Caligula.:hidewall:


Hi, Eric......well, there's hope for you then.

bullseyebarb 02-05-2008 18:28

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 570580)
I didn't say the U.S. government funded the terrorist who blew up our men, women, and children.

'They' referred to your fellow countrymen, those partial to wearing green, and the ones happy to fund the bombs and guns that were used on our streets.


When you wrote, "They'll be banning Gerry Adams and Martin McGuiness next....," I took that to mean a government imposed ban on entry into the country, since citizens themselves cannot do that. This being followed by "they" having liked and funded the IRA, I assumed you were referring to the same entity. So this is merely a misunderstanding or lack of clarity.

The individual funders in question apparently felt more Irish than they did American.

garinda 02-05-2008 18:30

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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb (Post 570603)
So this is merely a misunderstanding or lack of clarity.

It must be the former, rather than the latter, as I'm always very clear...at least in my own head.:D

Eric 02-05-2008 18:33

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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb (Post 570588)
Hi, Eric......well, there's hope for you then.

Don't get your hopes up ... America is facing tough times ahead, much tougher decisions than whether to take Mandela of a watch list have to be made ... and if I were American (this is all hypothetical, eh) I would want someone in the White House whose commitment to America, let's call it patriotism, is beyond question. McCain has already sacrificed a hell of a lot for his country, his courage and integrity is beyond question ... I just happen to think he is the right man (oops, person) for the job at this point in America's history.

steeljack 02-05-2008 18:39

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 570608)
Don't get your hopes up ... America is facing tough times ahead, much tougher decisions than whether to take Mandela of a watch list have to be made ... and if I were American (this is all hypothetical, eh) I would want someone in the White House whose commitment to America, let's call it patriotism, is beyond question. McCain has already sacrificed a hell of a lot for his country, his courage and integrity is beyond question ... I just happen to think he is the right man (oops, person) for the job at this point in America's history.

I still have my reservations about him , no-one to date has brought up his involvment in the Savings and loan scandal a few years back , having said that I think he will be a shoo-in , my vote will be a write- in for Ron Paul

garinda 02-05-2008 18:41

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 570611)
my vote will be a write- in for Ron Paul

A transexual, black president?

Ooops, thought you said Ru Paul.:D

bullseyebarb 02-05-2008 19:00

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 570611)
I still have my reservations about him , no-one to date has brought up his involvment in the Savings and loan scandal a few years back , having said that I think he will be a shoo-in , my vote will be a write- in for Ron Paul

Me too. I think McCain resolved the S & L issue a long time ago. One thing I will give him credit for is that when a problem arises he doesn't try to obfuscate. Just gets all the details out there right away. It's the best approach. His biggest problem at the moment is the base of his own party. They don't trust him. He's done the tango one too many times with libs like Teddy Kennedy. Mr. Johnny has a lot of work to do in the months ahead.

Ron Paul ran for president once before on the Libertarian ticket. I voted for him that year. On domestic issues, he's fine. But given the current threats to our national security, I find him rather weak.

LancYorkYankee 02-05-2008 23:36

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Gosh I do so hope McCain wins! If it would one of those others, I'd have to make a leaving the country promise. So, who's got room for a nice guy like me? Of course I'd have to bring the pets and farm animals!

Brian

You tell 'em Barb. At least some things haven't changed on Accyweb eh? :>)

Brian

accyman 02-05-2008 23:41

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Originally Posted by LancYorkYankee (Post 570773)
Of course I'd have to bring the pets and farm animals!

most people pack a small lunch but i will help you eat them :)

mani 03-05-2008 04:46

Re: Nelson Mandela is a terrorist!!
 
its gonna b a democrat win esp if its obama

clinton comes with too much baggage.

mccain gonna get slaughtered thanks to his predecessor.

Eric 03-05-2008 10:21

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Originally Posted by mani (Post 570792)
its gonna b a democrat win esp if its obama

clinton comes with too much baggage.

mccain gonna get slaughtered thanks to his predecessor.

I don't know ... I think Americans are smart enough to realize that McCain is a hell of a lot different from Bush ... McCain is an American and has the scars to prove it ... Bush is nothing more than opportunistic son of a former President. (Jeez, I almost said "opportunistic son of a bitch":eek:)

LancYorkYankee 03-05-2008 19:50

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Yeah, McCain has never followed the Republican line. He has a dtermined independent vstreak that this country can really use. I believe the honeymoon period is coming to an end for Obama.

Glad to see in the latest polls that McCain soundly trounces either of the Hillbamas! :>)


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