Public Transport and Yobs
 

We were the other day disscussing how a child had managed to 'Sneak' on a bus without the driver noticing.
How far do we expect the drivers to go and what their responsibilities are?
The driver is responsible for driving the bus in a safe manner and to ensure the vehicle is roadworthy and fit to drive,to ensure passengers get to their destination safe and well whilst in his care. His remit also includes taking cash on the companies behalf and looking after that money.
How far should the responsibily go?
I have just read an article link below about a driver dealing with yobs....I think he deserves a medal?
Just have a look at the list of weapons this lot had.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7408998.stm

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Personally, I wouldn't want to do any job (bus driver, train ticket inspector etc) that involves dealing with the general public in the United Kingdom. Because, sadly, there is now a significant minority of the British public who are nothing more than sub-human scum. And, even more sadly, politicians of both the Labour and Tory persuasion, do not have the guts to deal with them. So, yes, the driver does deserve a medal. But, more importantly than that, he, along with everyone else in a similar position deserves protection.

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We need some radical ideas on fixing society.

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This driver was lucky that the police were on hand, god only knows what the outcome would have been otherwise. Would hate to have a job in the public sector these days!!!

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It's amazing, isn't it that some (and I do mean 'some') youths have no respect for these bus drivers who are just doing a job to take them to their destination safely from A > B.

Gosh Royboy, when an Inspector boarded a bus (like yerself), they were the front line of authority and you would not say boo to a goose when they were there.

In my opinion, still all comes down to parenting. (sorry, cliche type thing, but 'tis the roots at the end of the day)

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wouldn't say radical, sorry to keep harping back, but its all about deterant. even the parents hands are tied to some degree kate,

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despite tony blairs and gordon browns best efforts i can still afford to run my car so such matters do not yet concern me but if you act like a yob on public transport then you should go to jail where you can then see how long you survive acting like a yob in public showers

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I actually feel sorry for the elderly people that have to use public transport this day and age, especially with the knuckle draggers that are knocking about these days, I just dispare ever time I watch the news now with just what is going on in our country, yet the only answer the government can come up with is more and more legislation, we're all going to hell on a hand cart as someone once said:eek:

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Maybe the answer would be to ignore the wishy washy, bleeding hearts and give the police power to deter these thugs.
Simple rules really, you carry a knife with intent (we are not talking chefs here) 5 Years minimum, Guns, 10 years, screwdrivers, baseball bats etc, 3 years. As long as they are old enough to carry these weapons, they are old enough to do real time, in a real prison.

Lets bring the birtch back in, get coppers on the street instead of paperwork and cars. Get shut of the useless pcso's (if they want to be coppers then make them coppers) Give Bobbys the power to give a good old fashioned clip round the ear.

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I have never boarded a bus whilst masquerading as an inspector.

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Another responsibility for the driver...........Sweep the bus?

http://www.lancashireeveningtelegrap...sweep_move.php

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No they dont royboy - they check the bus to see if anyone has left a bag, purse etc behind but dont sweep it - they leave that to the cleaners to do.

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Sweep in the context that it was used means checking the bus.
Bus drivers dont sweep the buses but coach drivers do.

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we will give her that, shes only a kid.:D

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And she's from Haslingden.............:hidewall::D:D:cool:

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Roy I fully understand your point, I am also in a serivce industry.

On my walk round of the aircraft, I will open a hold if it is shut and have a look inside, check the wheel wells for anything out of the ordinary. The cabin crew always check the interior of the aircraft, storage bins, toilets etc for anything.

I personally don't see a problem here, I would have thought in these troubled times that a Bus driver would want to have a quick check of his Bus before a fresh run to make sure there is no security threat, (bomb!). I know I would.
BG

ps.On a small note, in the old days (90's), Drivers for Pilkingtons Buses, used to get paid for sweeping and mopping their buses out after the shift.

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Hey Roy I used to live in Haslingden:eek: Ah well maybe you're right then:D

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I agree with the sweep and given time all drivers do it but sometimes the driver pulls into the bus station and has to change over to another bus.
Schedules are so tight for economic reasons that drivers have no time to do what's expected of them.
If a driver is running late that causes a chain reaction and corners have to be cut.
I know it should'nt happen but it does.

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agree sadly, economics comes before public safety in some cases, way of the world.:(

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I did too...not for long....184 Blackburn Road....Hated it...I was only 9 then....60 years ago...it was a dump then and it is...no I'm not being tempted :eek::D:rolleyes:

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Go on Roy I dare, I dare you:D:rolleyes:

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Nope................:dancedog:

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What's your point...Not like you Willow to pass comment without explanation :):D

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my fella was a bus driver and a coach driver:D....thats because he has a PCV licence:rolleyes:

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Roy mate, fully aware of commercial considerations, we have it too in the plane game, Ryanair do 20 min turn rounds, including taxi to and from the runway. I could say thats why we have unions, but I can only imagine that the TGWU and RMT's hands are just as tied as BALPA's. It is a shame that people who are doing a very important job, with lots of peoples lives in their hands, I mean Bus drivers, not my lot, are given such short shrift. Management and bean counters have a lot to answer for.

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ya not mean PSV panther?:confused:

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It isn't even called a PSV now - is summat else

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You're showing your age Cashy......it was PSV when Jaysay was a lad..:hidewall::D

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Do they not have to enter the little diddies into the ticket machine like they do with bus passes even when there is no charge for the pass holder? I know of a bus company that do so they can correctly analyze the passengers on each bus.

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The answer to that was no............The machines are used to track revenue through fare paying passengers..........bus passes are recorded on the machine so that the bus company can make claims to the controlling Council for repayment. Those figures are also used to determine what vehicle should be used on a particular route.
Children under three are not classed as fare paying passengers and therefore do not come into the equation.
If you have a situation where the bus company do count under threes on and off, it must be for internal use only and not recorded in fiscal terms.