Originally Posted by panther (Post 578834)

security have always been on duty in the hospitals, my fella used to one at the old hospital years ago....

Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 578837)

Really :confused:
Don't remember seeing them last time I went to A&E - must have been late 70's I think :D

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 578847)

Think there is a constant police presence these days it is absolutely disguting!!!

Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 578854)

No there is'nt Bernie, thats what the staff are complaing about.
There should be a permanent police presence and sod the expense.
Security Staff have got to be very careful that they don't overstep what they are there to do.........a policeman has powers of arrest...they don't.

Originally Posted by panther (Post 578855)

They are any race.... any age... any gender.........why is that so important polly?

sorry just curious

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 578798)

Staff at Royal Blackburn are now facing abuse from drunk patients on a daily basis. It used to be a problem on Friday and Saturday nights but it appears to be an everyday occurence now. Surely our nurses and doctors deserve more respect than this??? I find it disgusting that the very people who are trying to help get abused in this way. My opinion is that the abusive patients should be ejected from the premises without treatment. What do you think?

Originally Posted by polly (Post 578852)

However, I want to know more about these drunks: What age groups are they - mainly ?

What gender are they? What race.

These are important points that need answering

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 578860)

I don't see what difference age, race and gender make they shouldn't be abusing the staff who are trying to help them.

Originally Posted by polly (Post 579079)

These are relevant factors because without this information we can not seek to remedy the situation

For example if the evidence points to the main perpetrators of the violence being young males we can examine where they have been before and why they are behaving in such a fashion

Regardless of who it is this behaviour is unacceptable but society needs to be able to target those who are causing the problem

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 579085)

Be quite honest polly society doesn't give a damn, or we would have said enough is enough with these dogooders that rear their heads whenever these clones are up in court, they just get a sugar lump and a pat on the head, and if they are really lucky they get skiing holiday as well. cashy hit the nail on the head when he said there is no deterrent. A prime example was highlighted last week when Pete Dockerty was released from jail after serving 4 weeks of a sixteen week sentence, then tells the world that he cheeted the drug test whilst inside. Is it hardley any wonder that impressionable youngsters see this and think I can do that, law and order in this country has gone down the pan, and the police are fighting a losing battle:mad:

Originally Posted by polly (Post 579105)

I doubt that your right that society dosnt give a damn. I still believe that most people do care, they are just too lazy or to intimidated to do
anything about the situation.
We all have the option to become local councillors, but we cont we just let the two / three major parties carry on in their own ways for their own aims

We all have the option to apply to be local magistrates but we dont we leave it to the usual faces.

I do agree with you about the way the media idolises people and opinions that it real shouldn't and how this affects impressionable youngsters.

Society needs a major shake up and people need to accept responsibility for their own families instead of relying on the state.
We need to start asking our neighbours and ourselves what we are offering back to the community.l