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BERNADETTE 19-05-2008 18:32

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Staff at Royal Blackburn are now facing abuse from drunk patients on a daily basis. It used to be a problem on Friday and Saturday nights but it appears to be an everyday occurence now. Surely our nurses and doctors deserve more respect than this??? I find it disgusting that the very people who are trying to help get abused in this way. My opinion is that the abusive patients should be ejected from the premises without treatment. What do you think?

panther 19-05-2008 18:36

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they should be left in the gutter to rot IMO


id hate to think what it is like if ya had to take ya little kid to A+E in the middle of the night with these idiots there

Wynonie Harris 19-05-2008 18:40

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Totally agree, as would most ordinary people with a modicum of common sense. Sadly, it'd probably be against their "human rights" and there'd be plenty of human rights lawyers (the fragrant Cherie springs to mind) waiting to fight their case for them.

emzy 19-05-2008 18:53

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I think its a disgrace the way which they are treat by these idiots. They should be left to sober up before being treated me thinks (unless obviously it is life threatening) They should not have to put up with any kind of abuse and the person dishing out the abuse should be spending time in the cells for there actions

K.S.H 19-05-2008 18:57

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Should be turfed out without treatment.
I had to go to A&E a few month back in the early hours, was shocked to find they now have security guards on duty at the hospital, shouldn't be needed in places like this but seeing tonights Telegraph you can see why

panther 19-05-2008 18:59

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security have always been on duty in the hospitals, my fella used to one at the old hospital years ago....

K.S.H 19-05-2008 19:01

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 578834)
security have always been on duty in the hospitals, my fella used to one at the old hospital years ago....

Really :confused:
Don't remember seeing them last time I went to A&E - must have been late 70's I think :D

Royboy39 19-05-2008 19:09

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Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 578837)
Really :confused:
Don't remember seeing them last time I went to A&E - must have been late 70's I think :D

My wife worked in A&E reception at the Infirmary from 1982 to 1988 and the only people to look after security were the porters.
Any trouble they rang the police....then they came straight away.

BERNADETTE 19-05-2008 19:11

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Think there is a constant police presence these days it is absolutely disguting!!!

cashman 19-05-2008 19:15

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Whilst its disgusting,people should ask why are they like this? cos there is NO SUITABLE Deterrant, thats why.:mad:

panther 19-05-2008 19:17

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when i mean years ago , i mean about 5.....sorry bout that :o

polly 19-05-2008 19:17

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I agree tottally that they should be turned away untreated, the Human Rights of the nurses are more important than those of the drunks.

However, I want to know more about these drunks: What age groups are they - mainly ?

What gender are they? What race.

These are important points that need answering

Royboy39 19-05-2008 19:19

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 578847)
Think there is a constant police presence these days it is absolutely disguting!!!

No there is'nt Bernie, thats what the staff are complaing about.
There should be a permanent police presence and sod the expense.
Security Staff have got to be very careful that they don't overstep what they are there to do.........a policeman has powers of arrest...they don't.

panther 19-05-2008 19:20

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They are any race.... any age... any gender.........why is that so important polly?

sorry just curious

BERNADETTE 19-05-2008 19:22

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 578854)
No there is'nt Bernie, thats what the staff are complaing about.
There should be a permanent police presence and sod the expense.
Security Staff have got to be very careful that they don't overstep what they are there to do.........a policeman has powers of arrest...they don't.

Just goes to show how many I have seen whilst up there, really thought they were there all the time. It isn't just in casualty though have been in the Medical Assessment Unit and the police have had to be brought in:mad:

panther 19-05-2008 19:23

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stick em with a sharp needle and knock the buggers out i say;)

BERNADETTE 19-05-2008 19:24

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 578855)
They are any race.... any age... any gender.........why is that so important polly?

sorry just curious

I don't see what difference age, race and gender make they shouldn't be abusing the staff who are trying to help them.

Lilly 19-05-2008 20:05

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 578798)
Staff at Royal Blackburn are now facing abuse from drunk patients on a daily basis. It used to be a problem on Friday and Saturday nights but it appears to be an everyday occurence now. Surely our nurses and doctors deserve more respect than this??? I find it disgusting that the very people who are trying to help get abused in this way. My opinion is that the abusive patients should be ejected from the premises without treatment. What do you think?

I quite agree, Bernadette.

Why should nurses have to put up with abuse when they are just doing their job trying to help people?

Abusive behaviour wouldn't be tolerated in my workplace so why in hospital? :confused:

cashman 19-05-2008 21:24

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Originally Posted by polly (Post 578852)

However, I want to know more about these drunks: What age groups are they - mainly ?

What gender are they? What race.

These are important points that need answering

thats utter garbage to me, whats happening to the medical staff is the important point. n its dealing with whoever n how is whats important.

polly 20-05-2008 10:01

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 578860)
I don't see what difference age, race and gender make they shouldn't be abusing the staff who are trying to help them.

These are relevant factors because without this information we can not seek to remedy the situation

For example if the evidence points to the main perpetrators of the violence being young males we can examine where they have been before and why they are behaving in such a fashion

Regardless of who it is this behaviour is unacceptable but society needs to be able to target those who are causing the problem

jaysay 20-05-2008 10:30

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Originally Posted by polly (Post 579079)
These are relevant factors because without this information we can not seek to remedy the situation

For example if the evidence points to the main perpetrators of the violence being young males we can examine where they have been before and why they are behaving in such a fashion

Regardless of who it is this behaviour is unacceptable but society needs to be able to target those who are causing the problem

Be quite honest polly society doesn't give a damn, or we would have said enough is enough with these dogooders that rear their heads whenever these clones are up in court, they just get a sugar lump and a pat on the head, and if they are really lucky they get skiing holiday as well. cashy hit the nail on the head when he said there is no deterrent. A prime example was highlighted last week when Pete Dockerty was released from jail after serving 4 weeks of a sixteen week sentence, then tells the world that he cheeted the drug test whilst inside. Is it hardley any wonder that impressionable youngsters see this and think I can do that, law and order in this country has gone down the pan, and the police are fighting a losing battle:mad:

polly 20-05-2008 11:23

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 579085)
Be quite honest polly society doesn't give a damn, or we would have said enough is enough with these dogooders that rear their heads whenever these clones are up in court, they just get a sugar lump and a pat on the head, and if they are really lucky they get skiing holiday as well. cashy hit the nail on the head when he said there is no deterrent. A prime example was highlighted last week when Pete Dockerty was released from jail after serving 4 weeks of a sixteen week sentence, then tells the world that he cheeted the drug test whilst inside. Is it hardley any wonder that impressionable youngsters see this and think I can do that, law and order in this country has gone down the pan, and the police are fighting a losing battle:mad:

I doubt that your right that society dosnt give a damn. I still believe that most people do care, they are just too lazy or to intimidated to do
anything about the situation.
We all have the option to become local councillors, but we cont we just let the two / three major parties carry on in their own ways for their own aims

We all have the option to apply to be local magistrates but we dont we leave it to the usual faces.

I do agree with you about the way the media idolises people and opinions that it real shouldn't and how this affects impressionable youngsters.

Society needs a major shake up and people need to accept responsibility for their own families instead of relying on the state.
We need to start asking our neighbours and ourselves what we are offering back to the community.l

jaysay 20-05-2008 11:36

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Originally Posted by polly (Post 579105)
I doubt that your right that society dosnt give a damn. I still believe that most people do care, they are just too lazy or to intimidated to do
anything about the situation.
We all have the option to become local councillors, but we cont we just let the two / three major parties carry on in their own ways for their own aims

We all have the option to apply to be local magistrates but we dont we leave it to the usual faces.

I do agree with you about the way the media idolises people and opinions that it real shouldn't and how this affects impressionable youngsters.

Society needs a major shake up and people need to accept responsibility for their own families instead of relying on the state.
We need to start asking our neighbours and ourselves what we are offering back to the community.l

Well if they are to lazy polly they just don't give a damn, its a bit to late asking people to take responsibility for their own families, that went out the window years ago, back in the sixties. there is only one way forward and that is to make punishmen fit the crime. Do away with the word concurrently when passing sentances and replace it with consecutive, Life should mean life, some of this scum are out on the streets before their victims are not long in their grave, and most of all consider the victim before the criminal, which does not happen today, then and only then will we see a return to exceptable values

moon 20-05-2008 15:48

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They should they be kicked out without treatment. If they in need of a nurse then they should be thankful that they have the facilities to go to and be treated, some countries dont have that and they are completly ungrateful!


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