Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 582224)

I was once the first person to be put on an asthma drug in this area some years ago, was on it about two years but didn't do much good, I've even forgotten the name, but it was in a yellow and brown inhaler:confused:

Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 582239)

I get paracetemol for pain and Zantak for acid reflux - neither have side effects, and can be bought 'over the counter'

Any fancier drugs I have been given have had side effects and so I can't take them.

Some people are more prone to get side effects than others, and when I see the potential for damage to other internal organs from prescription drugs, in some ways I am thankful that I can survive without them.

When I tell my doc that paracetemol doesn't relieve pain, he says 'try whisky'.
When I tell him I spend half my life asleep, he says 'drink lots of coffee'.

I just try to improve my quality of life using herbal remedies. They don't come free on NHS, but I know that they won't kill me off, (if taken in recommended dosages)

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 582195)

My cardiologist who I have full confidence in (but who's probably getting a kickback) asked if I was interested in taking part in a 'new' heart medication blind trial (wont be told if I'm on the stuff or a placebo), did one a few years back for a 'new' super heart drug (got a phone call at work to stop taking it with immediate effect ).
How do other Accy-web users feel about being used as human guinea pigs ? , personally I have no objection , if it works , good , if it doesnt ...oh well , sure the stuff has been well tested on rats and chimps, with no serious side effects , and probably in some third world country and now they want to test the stuff on folks with "western/European" lifestyles.
I just have a problem with the drug companies whilst doing noble works in finding new cures and stuff, have some of their priorities screwed up , they make Billions with a B on stuff like Viagra ,yet expect folks to volunteer (unpaid) for medications which in my mind are more important .
What do you think , should human guniea pigs recieve some recompense from the drug companies or not ? , note, volunteering for partaking in a trial means signing reams and reams of paperwork absolving the manufacturer of any responsibility .
p.s. I'm not a skinflint looking for money , just the fact that these Drug companies profits are outrageous to my way of thinking .

Anyone care to comment .......


also why don't new paragraph indents work ?

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 582220)

not being a killjoy steeljack, but was a bad case of this approx 2 yrs back over here, some of the trialists were in a real bad way, (someone may remember) i would think long n hard if yer a fit person, the up side - ya will be able to afford yer Tina concert.:D;)

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 582557)

I remember that.

I saw the photo in the paper of the fella who's head blew up to something like 4 times its size......he looked like the elephant man and he was due to get married soon. That was why he did the trial, to help with the cost.

I think drug trials are a marvellous thing but stories like these don't half put you off.

Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 582576)

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 582717)

The only trouble is that without clinical trials a drug won't be licenced, you may get people who will try out new lotions and portions because it may help their condition, but in some cases that isn't always possible