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garinda 09-06-2008 10:26
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I don't think they had swimming pools at the workhouse.

cashman 09-06-2008 10:26
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 589682)
I’ve no idea what it costs these days but someone earlier mentioned £1.60. I have also no idea how many pensioners there are in this country. However let us assume that there are 5 million although there are probably more. If the government increased the pension by £1.60 per week it would cost the taxpayer at least £412 million per annum. I seem to recall that the government will grant £50 million to the local authorities to compensate for loss of income and there was something about another £50 million.
it costs £1-50 at hyndburn fer pensioners and disabled, £1-00 of which is refunded when ya return yer locker key, so if hyndburn does come under this scheme there i would estimate 40 max pensioners use it, the government are spending £20 on yer, stop moaning jim.;):D:rolleyes: like i commented in post 2 it costs nowt, i shall amend that to LOOKS GOOD, COSTS NOWT,:D

Royboy39 09-06-2008 10:44
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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 589704)
And where do people find the energy to swim if they can't afford to feed themselves whilst paying all their bills? Why can't they just be encouraged to go for walks or something and let them decide what to spend their money on?

The fact of the matter is, the government are all too aware that the majority of old people don't care about going swimming, and it's much cheaper to offer out a useless freebie which will only be taken up by a minority than pay out a bit extra to everybody. I think it is disgusting personally and it's bad enough that the government are trying to justify it without having to listened to the brainwashed electorate justify it too.
Can you swim?

Nickelson 09-06-2008 10:58
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 589724)
Well there is if you want it Nickelson there's always Kemp Delph:D
No Thank You :)

Dont Fancy Swimming With The Dead.

emamum 09-06-2008 11:00
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whats kemp delph?

blazey 09-06-2008 11:39
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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 589733)
Can you swim?
Not very well why? I had swimming lessons at school but they weren't fun. I haven't been swimming for just under a year.

Royboy39 09-06-2008 11:55
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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 589740)
Not very well why? I had swimming lessons at school but they weren't fun. I haven't been swimming for just under a year.
Just wondering :)

jambutty 09-06-2008 12:35
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 589729)
it costs £1-50 at hyndburn fer pensioners and disabled, £1-00 of which is refunded when ya return yer locker key, so if hyndburn does come under this scheme there i would estimate 40 max pensioners use it, the government are spending £20 on yer, stop moaning jim.;):D:rolleyes: like i commented in post 2 it costs nowt, i shall amend that to LOOKS GOOD, COSTS NOWT,:D
Come on cashy – it is a legitimate moan. The whole scheme is being presented as helping pensioners when the reality is that only a tiny minority will benefit.

jambutty 09-06-2008 12:40
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There is no evidence to suggest that regular swimming extends your life. The only evidence that there is, is that whilst swimming the body weight is taken off the arthritic joints and thus makes movement that bit easier. Once out of the water you are back to your painful normal. The only benefit that you get is that the muscles are exercised with less pain. The down side of swimming is that unless the water temperature is at least at body temperature, being immersed in water will cool the body down. We all know that the colder the body gets the worse the effects of arthritis.

Most of the electorate are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.

This initiative is only to try and gild the tarnished Labour/Brown image and a smokescreen to try and take our eye off the real issues. Or more likely Brown is muddying the political waters so that when he gets shown the door at the next general election, as surely he will, the next lot will have to spend the first three years undoing what Brown has done.

I read the other day that in spite of all the protests, this mob is surreptitiously going ahead with ID cards.

katex 09-06-2008 13:17
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 589758)
There is no evidence to suggest that regular swimming extends your life. The only evidence that there is, is that whilst swimming the body weight is taken off the arthritic joints and thus makes movement that bit easier. Once out of the water you are back to your painful normal. The only benefit that you get is that the muscles are exercised with less pain. The down side of swimming is that unless the water temperature is at least at body temperature, being immersed in water will cool the body down. We all know that the colder the body gets the worse the effects of arthritis.
98.6 degrees water temperature ! Ouch, don't think so Jambutty. Recommended is approx. 82.4.

At least, the muscles are getting exercised whilst in the water, which wouldn't normally get exercised without pain. All exercise is good for you and will extend life.

All about vascular too, to get the heart pumping a little faster.

I have had a hip replacement in now for 23 years, and although don't have any problems, just sometimes the muscles around the 'hip' would come a little stiff for a few days. Since I have been going swimming regularly, have now no trouble at all.

cashman 09-06-2008 14:21
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 589757)
Come on cashy – it is a legitimate moan. The whole scheme is being presented as helping pensioners when the reality is that only a tiny minority will benefit.
i know hence the sarcastic smiley with my comments, others who can't or aint the wit to see its legitimate can go suck eggs.:tongueout

jaysay 09-06-2008 16:32
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 589783)
i know hence the sarcastic smiley with my comments, others who can't or aint the wit to see its legitimate can go suck eggs.:tongueout
As they say in Parliament here, here,:D:rolleyes::p

Neil 09-06-2008 18:54
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 589709)
if I'm not mistaken Hyndburn sports centre is run by a trust not the council
I think Hyndburn Sports Centre is a pathetic attempt of a sports centre. The pool opening times are a joke.
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Monday to Friday 9.00am to 9.00pm
Saturday and Sunday 9.00am to 3.00pm
But if you decide to pop down at 10am I bet you can't have a swim with your kids even in the holidays.

Mancie 09-06-2008 21:37
Re: Free Swimming For Pensioners.
 
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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 589704)
And where do people find the energy to swim if they can't afford to feed themselves whilst paying all their bills? Why can't they just be encouraged to go for walks or something and let them decide what to spend their money on?

The fact of the matter is, the government are all too aware that the majority of old people don't care about going swimming, and it's much cheaper to offer out a useless freebie which will only be taken up by a minority than pay out a bit extra to everybody. I think it is disgusting personally and it's bad enough that the government are trying to justify it without having to listened to the brainwashed electorate justify it too.
I don't recall the last Tory government doing anything about pensioners not having a decent income !
Are you trying to tell us that the "New Conservatives" would significantly increase pensions?

Mancie 09-06-2008 21:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 589757)
Come on cashy – it is a legitimate moan. The whole scheme is being presented as helping pensioners when the reality is that only a tiny minority will benefit.
As my pensioned Dad would say... "it's better than a kick in the cods" :)


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