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Bonnyboy 16-06-2008 21:13

Another Rubbish thread
 
Read about this in the paper this morning, Rubbish bins may soon be emptied once a month - Mirror mumbled to myself, cheeky beggars, what do we pay our council tax for, what the hell will the binmen do with all their free time etc.

Thought, I would stick it on here. Whilst Googling for the article, I came across this, Council asks residents to empty their own, because they are too heavy for binmen - Mail Online …nowt like bare faced cheek is there.

banjoman 16-06-2008 21:19

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Now I always thought we were against monopoloies in this country...bad for consumer, competetion etc.. And yet I cant opt out of aspects of my council tax ? And complaining ...forget it. Great Service.

derekgas 16-06-2008 21:20

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We already separate everything for them to make a fortune recycling, and take the bin to a convenient place for them to collect, and now have to keep the weight down to a minimum, might as well take it to the bloody tip for them! Then again, they will probably have us putting it all in various storage bins for them, I for one will need a bigger bin if this is the plan, then of course it will be too heavy for the wimps! :mad:

cashman 16-06-2008 21:26

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 593667)
Read about this in the paper this morning, Rubbish bins may soon be emptied once a month - Mirror mumbled to myself, cheeky beggars, what do we pay our council tax for, what the hell will the binmen do with all their free time etc.

Thought, I would stick it on here. Whilst Googling for the article, I came across this, Council asks residents to empty their own, because they are too heavy for binmen - Mail Online …nowt like bare faced cheek is there.

was a story in last sats mail, about a family who had their bin left cos it was too heavy, the men had to be able to move it with 2 fingers the council said, or the automatic lifter would break. never heard so much crap in my life, so long as its filled with household rubbish,as this was, it aint the bloody householders fault if equipment can't lift it. :mad:

BERNADETTE 16-06-2008 21:27

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Never mind that an elderly person might get hurt worry about it happening to a bin man who is paid to do the job. This country has gone barmy:mad:

bernie94 16-06-2008 21:38

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pathetic cant think of anything else to say

Bonnyboy 16-06-2008 21:51

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 593675)
was a story in last sats mail, about a family who had their bin left cos it was too heavy, the men had to be able to move it with 2 fingers the council said, or the automatic lifter would break. never heard so much crap in my life, so long as its filled with household rubbish,as this was, it aint the bloody householders fault if equipment can't lift it. :mad:

I reckon a wheelie bin filled with sand would weigh round about the 250kg mark, those lifters look fairly meaty to me, so normal rubbish shouldn’t be an issue.

It has historically been a manual labouring job, I assume it is still classed as that. If folk can’t do the job, best they clock out.

ossylass 16-06-2008 22:14

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I watched the bin crew at work today, and one of the team was an attractive blonde female. I suppose applicants have to prove that they are physically capable of the tasks before they are appointed. I know, as an O.A.P. I sometimes struggle getting my bin over the steep back garden step.

cashman 16-06-2008 22:15

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 593696)
I reckon a wheelie bin filled with sand would weigh round about the 250kg mark, those lifters look fairly meaty to me, so normal rubbish shouldn’t be an issue.

It has historically been a manual labouring job, I assume it is still classed as that. If folk can’t do the job, best they clock out.

i did it in rishton fer a short while way back, it was a little side loader wagon, where you had to carry the bins n tip em in above shoulder height, could do it standing on me head, its pathetic the way the world has gone.:confused:

Bonnyboy 16-06-2008 22:16

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Originally Posted by ossylass (Post 593707)
I watched the bin crew at work today, and one of the team was an attractive blonde female. I suppose applicants have to prove that they are physically capable of the tasks before they are appointed. I know, as an O.A.P. I sometimes struggle getting my bin over the steep back garden step.

The blonde haired lass will be one of the "fluffers" ;)

BERNADETTE 16-06-2008 22:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ossylass (Post 593707)
I watched the bin crew at work today, and one of the team was an attractive blonde female. I suppose applicants have to prove that they are physically capable of the tasks before they are appointed. I know, as an O.A.P. I sometimes struggle getting my bin over the steep back garden step.

But what have they got to prove? If it can't be moved with two fingers the bin is considered a danger as they might hurt their backs:confused: H&S gone mad :eek:

Royboy39 16-06-2008 22:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ossylass (Post 593707)
I watched the bin crew at work today, and one of the team was an attractive blonde female. I suppose applicants have to prove that they are physically capable of the tasks before they are appointed. I know, as an O.A.P. I sometimes struggle getting my bin over the steep back garden step.

Sorry to mention Spain...which some members take exception to but here goes.
There are five large containers at the collection point for rubbish along with two for paper and one for glass.
The large containers are emptied every day and the other ones when they are full.
All rubbish that is generated in the household is placed in a plastic bag, tied and disposed of every day into the large containers.
Non of the containers have ever been set fire to or vandalised as far as I am aware.
I too am an OAP, luckily I have got my health, but there is no problem.
You don't have the problem of someone stealing your bins or taking them out in the street....carry a plastic bag to your bin...dump it...gone.
There used to be a well known saying for the Army Medical which went, 'Breath on this glass, if it steams up your in'.
Could this be the criteria for getting a job on the bins in the UK?

shillelagh 16-06-2008 22:38

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I arranged for them to come and pick the bin up from my back door - its called the assisted scheme. If anyone has problems dragging the bin round - disabled, pensioner then instead of you dragging it out to the front door the binmen will pick it up at your back door and empty it and then bring it back.

Bonnyboy 16-06-2008 22:41

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I’d like to know who is actually instigating all this H&S nonsense. Is it the employer or the employee…perhaps a case of both when needs suit. :rolleyes:

BERNADETTE 16-06-2008 22:42

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 593723)
I arranged for them to come and pick the bin up from my back door - its called the assisted scheme. If anyone has problems dragging the bin round - disabled, pensioner then instead of you dragging it out to the front door the binmen will pick it up at your back door and empty it and then bring it back.

Where do you find out about it??

ossylass 16-06-2008 22:46

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I agree with you, the Spanish system is great, you just take your rubbish to the nearest containers and they are emptied around midnight - every night! And if you have an article you no longer want, leave it by the container and someone will find it a good home - simple recycling!

shillelagh 16-06-2008 22:47

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I sorted it out when it went over onto wheelie bins. But Hyndburn does have a scheme like Rossendales just ring the council up and ask them about it.

cashman 16-06-2008 22:52

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you are quite correct about refuse (basura) collections in spain roy, was every night of the week where i lived n equivalent rates/ etc are nowhere near what we pay in the uk, as you will have discovered, so my question is if they can collect any amount daily fer a damn site less funding, why can ours collect next to nowt in comparison fortnightly fer a damn site more.:mad:

Royboy39 16-06-2008 22:59

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Originally Posted by ossylass (Post 593729)
I agree with you, the Spanish system is great, you just take your rubbish to the nearest containers and they are emptied around midnight - every night! And if you have an article you no longer want, leave it by the container and someone will find it a good home - simple recycling!

Just as a rider to my post....there are 350 apartments in the 6 blocks and all are serviced by these disposal units.
Emptied in ten minutes.....That is at least four streets in the UK.
No problem...........The Spanish are not daft after all.
Not bad at football either?

Bonnyboy 16-06-2008 23:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 593723)
I arranged for them to come and pick the bin up from my back door - its called the assisted scheme. If anyone has problems dragging the bin round - disabled, pensioner then instead of you dragging it out to the front door the binmen will pick it up at your back door and empty it and then bring it back.

How come they are as strong as an Ox if you declare you require assistance, yet can hardly manage to fall out the wagon for normal duties ?

'erindoors 17-06-2008 07:34

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What I don't understand is, how on earth people's bins are getting too full anyway? :confused: There are 9 of us in our house and we barely fill our bin. We recycle everything we can, and don't mind doing it.

Gail xxxx

emzy 17-06-2008 07:39

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I must admit i fill my bin every 2 weeks (very rarely have any over though) and yes it can be heavy sometimes, but its bound to be with all the nappies i go through really. I recycle what I can but still seem to have a lot of rubbish

flashy 17-06-2008 08:11

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in Blackburn we have new, smaller wheelie bins now and they are collected weekly, i havent a clue why though, if you recycle properly as Gail said ,you should have no problem, i never had a problem with fortnightly bin collections, we now use our old big wheelie bin for ALL our recycling, cans, tins, paper, cardboard and even yoghurt pots and tetra pak cartons now, it all goes into one big bin and that is collected fortnightly...not all areas in Blackburn have to recycle though, the houses down the Whitebirk estate havent been made to recycle, which i think is just stupid, i've been doing it for years and i'll carry on doing it....got a very nice compost bin on the go at the moment too :D

jambutty 17-06-2008 13:54

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You couldn’t make it up!

Just heard as a factoid on the wireless (Radio 2 Steve Wright) that the first town to implement the chipped wheelie bins has abandoned the scheme because the equipment wasn’t reliable enough. It only cost the taxpayer ONE MILLION POUNDS as a grant.

Benipete 17-06-2008 14:04

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 593922)
You couldn’t make it up!

Just heard as a factoid on the wireless (Radio 2 Steve Wright) that the first town to implement the chipped wheelie bins has abandoned the scheme because the equipment wasn’t reliable enough. It only cost the taxpayer ONE MILLION POUNDS as a grant.

Sounds about right at least now we won't have to fit locks on them all to make sure no body else was filling them.Bring on the next hair - brained scheme.:hehetable

garinda 17-06-2008 15:32

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 593728)
Where do you find out about it??

Apparently the service is very good, for those too disabled, or frail to put out their own wheelie bin. I know an old lady who's disabled, and all she has to do is make sure the gate is unlocked. They take, and then return her bin, and she's very happy with the service.

The H.B.C. helpline is 01254 399988

WillowTheWhisp 17-06-2008 15:49

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 593922)
You couldn’t make it up!

Just heard as a factoid on the wireless (Radio 2 Steve Wright) that the first town to implement the chipped wheelie bins has abandoned the scheme because the equipment wasn’t reliable enough. It only cost the taxpayer ONE MILLION POUNDS as a grant.


Absolutely mad isn't it? Do they employ people to dream up schemes to waste money on?

Lilly 17-06-2008 16:01

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 593667)
Read about this in the paper this morning, Rubbish bins may soon be emptied once a month - Mirror mumbled to myself, cheeky beggars, what do we pay our council tax for, what the hell will the binmen do with all their free time etc.

Thought, I would stick it on here. Whilst Googling for the article, I came across this, Council asks residents to empty their own, because they are too heavy for binmen - Mail Online …nowt like bare faced cheek is there.

I can't see this happpening round here.

garinda 17-06-2008 16:06

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I read in last weekend's papers that although the government are keen to bring in charges by weight for rubbish dispoosal, no council wants to be the testing ground, because it will be so unpopular.

MargaretR 17-06-2008 16:28

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 593986)
I read in last weekend's papers that although the government are keen to bring in charges by weight for rubbish dispoosal, no council wants to be the testing ground, because it will be so unpopular.

I hope the same will apply to (government incentives to councils)
nuclear waste dumps:eek:

jambutty 17-06-2008 16:38

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On the 5 o’clock news was a piece by a spokesman for that council where he declared that as well as not being able to get the system to work properly, that during the time of the trial fly tipping increased by 250%. He also highlighted the problem with flats that have community bins.

Also on the news it was revealed that Dictator Brown is reported as saying that in spite of some councils not being in favour with the idea, he is going ahead with the scheme nationwide.

There is obviously no end to this guy’s arrogance.

pipinfort 17-06-2008 16:43

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 593710)
The blonde haired lass will be one of the "fluffers" ;)

PMSFL..........don`t worry i`ve explained what a `Fluffer` is on here before......:D

WillowTheWhisp 17-06-2008 16:51

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Surely even a fluffer needs to be able to physically move the bin?

vera 17-06-2008 17:59

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how on earth can the bin men get hurt lifting the bins these days when all they do is pull it a few feet then the wagon comes to them and they just put it in the slots and the wagon lifts it for them, not like years gone by when the bin men did lift and empty the bins

flashy 17-06-2008 18:10

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its all a loada crap Ve, its all 'health and safety' related nowadays, i'm sure they'll have to do a 'risk assesment' everytime they go out to pick a bin up ;);)

derekgas 17-06-2008 18:15

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Its going to be cheaper to empty your rubbish in royboys bin soon, 6 bags a trip to spain, probably be quicker too, as I stated previously, they wont be happy untill we are doing all the work for them, and still paying them for not doing it!

panther 17-06-2008 18:29

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Bins being emptied once a month eh?
no doubt more fly tipping then, and more rats etc....

Royboy39 17-06-2008 18:31

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Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 594076)
Its going to be cheaper to empty your rubbish in royboys bin soon, 6 bags a trip to spain, probably be quicker too

Sod Off.........:tongueout

tosh 18-06-2008 19:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ossylass (Post 593729)
I agree with you, the Spanish system is great, you just take your rubbish to the nearest containers and they are emptied around midnight - every night! And if you have an article you no longer want, leave it by the container and someone will find it a good home - simple recycling!

the greek system is just the same as Spain

polly 19-06-2008 08:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 593696)
I reckon a wheelie bin filled with sand would weigh round about the 250kg mark, those lifters look fairly meaty to me, so normal rubbish shouldn’t be an issue.

It has historically been a manual labouring job, I assume it is still classed as that. If folk can’t do the job, best they clock out.



Ah but now our bin'men' all seem to be school leavers and a lot are not employed directly but through job agencies.
It probably saves a few bob on wages?

Mick 20-06-2008 08:15

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Well its recycle day here today BUT they are late as a result of the winds there is now 4 blue bags flying round the street emptying there content all over .

flashy 20-06-2008 08:28

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thats the reason why they should do like BwD and give you a wheelie bin for all your recycling

BERNADETTE 20-06-2008 08:33

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My bin men wouldn't take cardboard unless it was flattened down so that box would be getting let. Wonder if they will take that when tey eventually turn up.

Mick 20-06-2008 08:41

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The cardboard is picked up be a separate van later in the day
if they can find which street its in now with the wind it could be anywhere in Accy by the time they get round

Benipete 20-06-2008 08:46

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nick me a blue bag Mick

emamum 20-06-2008 08:48

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go to the town hall and get a new one instead....

WillowTheWhisp 20-06-2008 08:54

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That's what Willows Lane usually looks like on recycling day too. I usually make a phone call to the council. They must be sick of hearing from me.

shillelagh 20-06-2008 12:51

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I was told about this at 6.45am spug was watching the newspaper headlines on the telly in scotland

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/49105


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