So much so for the police stamping out racism
 

they cant even be equal to their own!

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just a thought , he was probably "fast-tracked " and missed the lessons on " I am not special", "co-operation with others" and " how to be a team-player "

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Just a thought do you think it might be performance related and nothing to do with his colour (another one jumps on the money train). :rolleyes:

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seems strange to me he never went public before the newspaper allegations surfaced, this is a case of lets wait n see i think. whilst racism is abborhent, so is playing the racism card as a " get out of jail free" card. so until we know which!!!

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Can't see the problem myself. The government are trying to put through plans to make discrimination legal.

Of course the more astute people watching todays news will know that I have missed the most obvious part of Ms Harmans plans out of the above quote as to who will be discrimated against :rolleyes:

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It seems to me that no matter who they are either a top police officer or a super model, when things don't go their way the race card is placed firmly on the table, I agree cashy we'll have to waite and see what the real truth is

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And it won't be members of the ethnic community dave will it:(

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Just wait until it all goes pearshaped for Wince and watch that card appear! ;)

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You've got it in one Willow, how on earth do the government think we are going to except other nationalities and races if they are passing laws which discriminate against the indigenous population, they are just paying lip service to the PC brigade AGAIN:mad:

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We are going to end up with lots of people doing jobs they clearly aren't up to just so the goverment can reach it's targets!
It's ridiculous!
Like willow said the only criteria for getting a job should be who is best qualified not whether they can make up numbers for a minority group.

Re: So much so for the police stamping out racism
 

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Funny how they never ever complained when being promoted year after year. They (everybody) needs to be told that they cannot all be Chief Constable/Prime Minister/Admiral or whatever it is.

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Whilst watching the fragrant Ms Harman hold forth in her usual condescending, patronising manner, my first thought was "what planet are these people living on?" The people of this country, male and female, from every ethnic background, face real and very pressing problems and the government are wasting their time on utter drivel like this.

What's more, the proposals are a real insult to the many women and members of ethnic minorites who simple get on with their job/career/life and don't play the race/gender card. My wife arrived in this country 23 years ago and has built up a successful career for herself. She would be appalled to think that even the smallest element of her success was down to her race or gender, rather than hard work and ability.

I really do think this government have lost the plot!

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Unfortunately that doesn't always happen. On this side of the pond, in both Canada and the US, there have been major problems when Affirmative Action policies have been put in place. Some members of minority communties want their members hired because they belong to a minority, not because they are the best qualified. The problem is very complex, many minorities get a poor start in the education system because they belong to a particular minority ... I am thinking of the poor, First Nations people, and blacks from the large cities. To eliminate discrimination in hiring it is wrong to start at the hiring level; work has to be done at the elementary, secondary, and post-secondary school levels first.

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It’s poor legislation all round, it’s condescending/patronising to, women and ethnic minorities.

I just cannot fathom how anti discriminatory legislation which openly discriminates is a step in the right direction. :confused:

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Can't really comment as to whether this case is racist or not, without more evidence.

It could very well be, or it could just be a case of sour grapes.

I suspect there are racists in the police, just as there are in every profession, but thankfully there are laws in place which make it illegal, if brought to light.

Not really a race issue, but this recent story certainly highlights religious intolerance at work within our police force.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...irmingham.html

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There is racism everywhere................you don't have to be black or asian (these seem to be the most prevelant "minorities" screaming racism)..............it's about time they started to realise that it might be that they are not up to the job.

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Come on Mani..you can't "stamp out" racism.. it's embeded in some people.. if I had a choice I'd prefer racism to colour predujice ..to judge people on the colour of skin is illogical, immature and nonsense..to judge people on the country they were born or thier nationality is natural.

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just a thought , but i think some 'white' resentment comes from the fact that 'ethnics' cant be trusted to join into the democratic political process without religion or tribalism rearing its ugly head , something most 'northern europeans' got rid off generations ago , sorry if it sounds paternalistic , but probably lots of English folks thought the Irish in Ulster during the troubles in the 60s/70s/80s were no better or different than Mugabes supporters in the present time

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Is it?...I would have thought that judging someone on the country they come from is just as illogical and immature as judging them on the colour of their skin. Surely, everyone should be judged on their own individual merits - not on their race or country of origin - and that's exactly the point that most people are trying to make on this thread!

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Yes i'd go along with that Wynonie..but don't really care.. many people will say , in comfort, that they don't like French or Germans..are they racist or predudice?.. personally it would be the bods that discriminate against the colouir of people.. that may not be racist.. but I think it is sick.

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I think the one thing that shows this farce up for what it is, is the fact that this police officers is being supported by "The Black Police Officers Association" now how racist is that, you can bet your bottom dollar that if there was a White Police Oficers Association there would be hell to pay

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that to me is utterly crazy, its more racist than the actual racists in the police force, it gives me the impression that these members have NO INTENTION of integrating,n the clowns that allow these factions to exist are completley clueless.:confused:

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Ya thats right cashy, but you never here the PC brigade saying anything about things like this, theres the MOBO awards or Music of Black Origin, Black Trade Unions ect ect ect, how can anybody promote anti-racism when bodies like these are aloud tho function unchallenged:eek:

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Here's a quote from the home page of the National Black Police Association website:

"The definition of "Black" does not refer to skin colour.

The emphasis is on the common experience and determination of the people of African, African-Caribbean and Asian origin to oppose the effects of racism."


If black isn't a colour, what is it? If they are determined to oppose the effects of racism why set up an association purely for black police officers? Surely this is a racist organisation.