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MargaretR 04-07-2008 09:40

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The Mail have published a list of MPs who voted to keep the existing expenses system
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-expenses.html

glad to see that Greg Pope didn't

cashman 04-07-2008 09:48

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thanks fer the link margaret, interesting reading, all that voted to retain should be ashamed of themselves,but somehow i doubt they will, same as cyfr, who is playing slag the opposition again.:rolleyes:

jambutty 04-07-2008 10:12

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 601977)
The Mail have published a list of MPs who voted to keep the existing expenses system
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-expenses.html

glad to see that Greg Pope didn't

I see that my MP, Janet Anderson, wants to keep on the gravy train.

She wouldn’t have got my vote next time anyway but this makes sure.

It would appear that they voted to keep the existing expenses AND reject an independent audit.

It would be interesting to see the actual wording of the vote options. Because there is more to this than meets the eye.

As I understand it one option was to have an expenses allowance but not have to declare how it was spent. If that is correct where does that put Greg Pope and all those who voted against?

I don’t think that there was an option to discontinue the expenses.

So the way this item has been presented by the media could give the wrong impression.

I also notice that the call for fewer MP’s is gaining ground in a comment letter.

jaysay 04-07-2008 10:36

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 601989)
I see that my MP, Janet Anderson, wants to keep on the gravy train.

She wouldn’t have got my vote next time anyway but this makes sure.

It would appear that they voted to keep the existing expenses AND reject an independent audit.

It would be interesting to see the actual wording of the vote options. Because there is more to this than meets the eye.

As I understand it one option was to have an expenses allowance but not have to declare how it was spent. If that is correct where does that put Greg Pope and all those who voted against?

I don’t think that there was an option to discontinue the expenses.

So the way this item has been presented by the media could give the wrong impression.

I also notice that the call for fewer MP’s is gaining ground in a comment letter.

The reason she probably voted to stay on the gravy train JB is that she won't be at the station after the next election;)

andrewb 05-07-2008 11:30

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 601977)
The Mail have published a list of MPs who voted to keep the existing expenses system
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-expenses.html

glad to see that Greg Pope didn't

He didn't vote against it either. He didn't vote at all. I hope there was a good reason for him not to vote for expenses reform.

derekgas 05-07-2008 11:52

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Could be the same reason many people dont vote in elections andrew, apathy, doesnt matter who we vote for, the elected party always look after themselves first and voters last, perhaps greg feels that the options were going to make no difference to the current carry on, I stronlgy suspect mp's would still be creaming it whatever the outcome was.

jaysay 05-07-2008 12:29

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Could be the same reason many people dont vote in elections andrew, apathy, doesnt matter who we vote for, the elected party always look after themselves first and voters last, perhaps greg feels that the options were going to make no difference to the current carry on, I stronlgy suspect mp's would still be creaming it whatever the outcome was.

The Liberals are best Derek, their best representation on any body is three, one to vote for, one to vote against, and the other to abstain, sorted:D

jambutty 05-07-2008 14:50

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He didn't vote against it either. He didn't vote at all. I hope there was a good reason for him not to vote for expenses reform.

Neither did Brown and his reason was that he had other pre-arranged business to attend to. Yeh! Right!

andrewb 05-07-2008 15:19

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 601978)
thanks fer the link margaret, interesting reading, all that voted to retain should be ashamed of themselves,but somehow i doubt they will, same as cyfr, who is playing slag the opposition again.:rolleyes:

Slag the opposition? I'm by NO WAY ashamed for highlighting someone being abusive at Cameron just because he voted to reform expenses because he sees there are problems with it! I thought that's what people wanted, more transparency, I certainly do. Instead we've ended up with no change at all.

derekgas 05-07-2008 15:37

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The Liberals are best Derek, their best representation on any body is three, one to vote for, one to vote against, and the other to abstain, sorted:D

Quite jaysay, but isnt that pretty much what the other 2 do, one half for, one quarter against, one quarter abstention?, liberal vote the way you say to fit in with one of the other 2. ;)

jaysay 05-07-2008 15:40

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Quite jaysay, but isnt that pretty much what the other 2 do, one half for, one quarter against, one quarter abstention?, liberal vote the way you say to fit in with one of the other 2. ;)

It was meant to portray what a waste of space the Liberals are Derek:rolleyes:

derekgas 05-07-2008 15:52

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I got that Jaysay, I was trying to portray what a waste of space the lot of them are. lol


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