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entwisi 07-07-2008 12:05
German Measles party!
 
Siobhans got the good old German Measles.

If you want to get your kid infected feel free to pop round and let them play with her!

Some people like the idea of getting it all out the way before school starts so they are less likely to miss school due to these moments in life.

Ian

emamum 07-07-2008 12:20
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erm.... no thanks lol

Have you told nursery/playgroup or anywhere she goes to? German measles is and infectious disease and may need reporting to RIDDOR ....parents of any other children she has been in contact with will need to know (and any pregnant women)

entwisi 07-07-2008 12:54
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yep, told them this morning. TBH I reckon she caught it there! :D

plus they have it 2-3 weeks before they show so its already too late to do owt about it!

flashy 07-07-2008 13:40
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i reckon you are doing right Ian, i wish Reece had had them already, it would have been better for him to get them at a younger age than at the age he is now

West Ender 07-07-2008 14:37
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When I was a small child, before the NHS got off the ground, it was quite normal for mothers to send their children round to play with a child who had one of the childhood diseases - german measles, chickenpox etc. Most of those illnesses were less severe in younger children than when they were older and it got them out of the way before school. That way also gave the child a natural immunity to the diseases without the putative risks, today, of innoculation.

Right, form an orderly queue and get your children round to Entwisi's. He can supply the jelly and ice cream. :)

emamum 07-07-2008 14:42
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If your kids get it now they will have it over the summer holidays!!!

flashy 07-07-2008 14:52
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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 603336)
If your kids get it now they will have it over the summer holidays!!!

well i'm sorry but i would rather Reece have it over the summer holidays than be extremely ill with it when he's a man

emamum 07-07-2008 14:55
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i was pointing out that they wont have to miss any school.......

entwisi 07-07-2008 14:56
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Yep jelly and ice cream is available!

katex 07-07-2008 15:08
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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 603328)
i reckon you are doing right Ian, i wish Reece had had them already, it would have been better for him to get them at a younger age than at the age he is now
Don't think too serious even when older Flashy .. chickenpox can be though, hate to bring up MMR, but did he not have these injections ? You can do a Tony Blair if you do not wish to answer this.

flashy 07-07-2008 15:10
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hell yeah, of course he had his injections

katex 07-07-2008 15:11
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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 603352)
hell yeah, of course he had his injections
Well, would have included the Rubella I would imagine, so he will be immune.

emamum 07-07-2008 15:11
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Measles Mumps and Rubella......Rubella=german measles

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/diseases/...manmeasles.htm

flashy 07-07-2008 15:16
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i may be wrong here but i thought that they could still get the infection if they have had the injections, but just not an extreme case of it?


like i said, i may be wrong

emamum 07-07-2008 15:22
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http://www.metrokc.gov/health/immunization/system.htm

Quote:
QUESTION:
I have heard that some people get diseases that they have been vaccinated against. How could this be true?
ANSWER:
Modern vaccines are extremely effective, but are not perfect. For example, a vaccine that is 90% effective means that one in every ten people who is vaccinated is not fully protected from the disease. Should disease affect a community, those that are unprotected are likely to be infected - which includes those who were not vaccinated and the 10% of people who were vaccinated but for whom the vaccine didn't work. The 10% for whom the vaccine did not work may still have partial immunity; if infected, these individuals may experience a milder form of the disease. Because most diseases that vaccines prevent are transmitted from person-to-person, the more people in a community who are immunized, the less likely that disease will be transmitted and "find" the few that are unprotected.

Most vaccines require more than one dose to reach maximum immunity. Some, like tetanus and diphtheria, require booster doses every 10 years throughout life to continue that immunity.

entwisi 07-07-2008 15:27
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Siobhan had her mmr at 12 months, she still has it!

flashy 07-07-2008 15:30
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Siobhan had her mmr at 12 months, she still has it!


thought so, but i wasnt sure

katex 07-07-2008 15:32
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Also, was once told by my doctor, when son had a rash, and suggested could be German Measles, he shrugged this off as had the full MMR. Explained that their are lots of mild conditions that emulate German Measles, and that is why some parents may think they have got a dose.

Thing is has been completely elimated in lots of countries due to everyone having it. Sorry, to bring this subject up again, but somebody would have done sooner or later ... :o

I've had Rubella Entwisi, or would have been up for the goodies.. :D

katex 07-07-2008 15:32
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Siobhan had her mmr at 12 months, she still has it!
Has she not had her second though, usually at about 36 months .. so this could be the reason.

flashy 07-07-2008 15:33
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i know i'm changing the subject slightly but i had my tonsils out when i was 12, and later in life the doctor told me i had tonsilitus, did you know your tonsils grow back? i didnt until he told me

entwisi 07-07-2008 15:36
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According to her red book there is more mmr jabs

panther 07-07-2008 16:55
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I had german measles has a kid:rolleyes:

Also cough or sneeze of an infected person can spread the disease, so they really can get it from anyone who is walking about and spluttering.

Flashy why would ya rather have ya son get measles now rather than in adulthood?
its only risky to pregnant women, I wouldnt have thought adult men would suffer worse.

panther 07-07-2008 16:59
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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 603370)
did you know your tonsils grow back? i didnt until he told me
only if a small bud of tonsil tissue is left behind by the surgeon, the tonsil may regrow;)

flashy 07-07-2008 19:20
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lol well they obviously left a bud in mi gob when they took mine out then ;)

pussycat 07-07-2008 22:31
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when your child has there injections when there young , they inject them with a small amount of the virse , so there body can fight it off , so yes you can still get it , but your body can fight it off better , then thoughs who have,nt had there injection , cuz your body know what its fighting

pussycat 07-07-2008 22:34
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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 603370)
i know i'm changing the subject slightly but i had my tonsils out when i was 12, and later in life the doctor told me i had tonsilitus, did you know your tonsils grow back? i didnt until he told me
yes mine have grown back 3times , and ive still got them now ,everyone i told that they can grow back looked at me as if i,d gone silly ,

flashy 08-07-2008 07:59
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Originally Posted by pussycat (Post 603623)
yes mine have grown back 3times , and ive still got them now ,everyone i told that they can grow back looked at me as if i,d gone silly ,


yep, i've had the same reaction several times

blazey 08-07-2008 08:17
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I got chicken pox when I was about 15, didn't really bother me that much though, just meant I couldn't really go out without looking like I had some sort of plague. It wasn't even that itchy. I really wondered what all the fuss was about.

WillowTheWhisp 08-07-2008 10:59
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I had the injections against German measles as a child but still caught it (them?) - they asked me when I first got pregnant if I'd had the injections and I said "yes and the disease!" and they looked at me like I was talking rubbish.

katex 08-07-2008 11:53
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 603806)
I had the injections against German measles as a child but still caught it (them?) - they asked me when I first got pregnant if I'd had the injections and I said "yes and the disease!" and they looked at me like I was talking rubbish.
Confused a little Willow, the MMR (which included the Rubella vaccination for the first time) was not brought in until 1972, would you not be 19 then ? Maybe that's why they were a little puzzled ?

buttonsmum 08-07-2008 13:40
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 603368)
Has she not had her second though, usually at about 36 months .. so this could be the reason.

The second jab is usually between 3 and 5 yrs. We are waiting for an appointment to come through for Siobhan's, but that could take time as a friend of mine's little girl didn't get hers through until she was 5yrs, despite her mother requesting it on several occasions.

The doctor did advise us that even though a child has had the jab, they can still get a mild dose,

katex 08-07-2008 13:52
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Originally Posted by buttonsmum (Post 603829)
The second jab is usually between 3 and 5 yrs. We are waiting for an appointment to come through for Siobhan's, but that could take time as a friend of mine's little girl didn't get hers through until she was 5yrs, despite her mother requesting it on several occasions.

The doctor did advise us that even though a child has had the jab, they can still get a mild dose,
Hope she's OK Buttonsmum .. not too bad though is it.

5 years .. what's going on then ? Pretty sure there is not a shortage ? Sounds like shortage of appointment time to me.

P.S. Have been nosing at yer Flickr pictures .. some lovely shots of Siobhan there ... better not take a photo' at the moment though .. LOL

buttonsmum 08-07-2008 14:07
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Apart from being itchy, off her food and a bit mard she's fine.

But thats where the calomine lotion and lots of mummy and daddy cuddles come in.

WillowTheWhisp 08-07-2008 16:36
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 603811)
Confused a little Willow, the MMR (which included the Rubella vaccination for the first time) was not brought in until 1972, would you not be 19 then ? Maybe that's why they were a little puzzled ?

I thought the MMR was brought in in 1988! Didn't they used to do seperate ones prior to that? I had something anyway!! :D

katex 08-07-2008 17:05
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 603890)

I thought the MMR was brought in in 1988! Didn't they used to do seperate ones prior to that? I had something anyway!! :D
Well, the vaccine was not licensed until 1969 .. but not incorporated into the MMR until '72 (when they started the Nationwide programme .. not sure Willow) . I know my daughter born in '65 never had it, but certainly son born in '82 did.

keetah992000 08-07-2008 20:09
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aw bless hope she is feeling better soon give her a big hug from me x

entwisi 09-07-2008 07:58
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Whats the rule about when she can go back to nursery? I know they are contageous for 2 weeks before the spots come out, is it 1 week from appearence or longer?

onlyme 09-07-2008 08:01
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With chicken pox, my likkle fella wasnt allowed anywhere till the last of the spots had blistered. He had one on his finger that was a couple of days behind the rest. Was debating amputaion by this point lol.

Have you tried Anti-histimines as well?? I used the liquid form and it was fab for getting rid of the itching? Might be worth a do?

emamum 09-07-2008 10:19
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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 604166)
Whats the rule about when she can go back to nursery? I know they are contageous for 2 weeks before the spots come out, is it 1 week from appearence or longer?
best to ask nursery,depends what their policy on infections........They will probably ask for her to stay off longer to be on the safe side.......Saying that, all the other kid will have already been in contactwith her before you knew about it..

according to NHS direct you are contagious till 5 days after the rash appears..

keetah992000 09-07-2008 12:47
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Ian - i cant remember off hand - best to give them a ring - do the staff know because a member of staff working around Siobhan is expecting?

entwisi 09-07-2008 13:20
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I rang up on the morning to say we suspected, rang again when we came out and I confirmed again in the afternoon so yep we've done our bit!

TBH I reckon she picked it up there and unprompted said a little boy had spots last week. Its not an issue and TBH I'm happy she has had it before she starts proper school, we only have normal measles left on teh ticklist of illnesses youu must have! :D


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