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it was on the news yesterday that you can not take your kids out of school term for a holiday if you do you get find £50:eek:

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£50.00 you would save more on the holiday than that.

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what if the school give you permission?

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Heard about something like this before and think it is stupid.
Some people can only get holidays at certain times so have no choice.
When i was at school i was always taken out of school the last two weeks in july before we broke up for the summer because it was the only time my parents could get time off work.

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Oh good they have halved it :D

Didn't it used to be £100 for the past few years since they brought it in. I think the words 'can be fined' not 'will be fined' spring to mind. Unless pam has seen something nobody else has seen :confused:

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its £50 per child, it was on GMTV this morning

i think its at the schools discretion

what i want to know is....where will the money be going?

school funds?
back to the government?
to buy some nice little cakes for the teachers?

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thanks flashy, couldnt find the story on the news sites.... best i can do atm> http://www.gm.tv/index.cfm?articleid=30084

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It is if people take thier kids away without schools permission, so, let me see, holiday in august @ £3000, or July at £2000, minus £50 fine, saves £950, Mmmmm, what shall I do?
Just for the record, I paid the August prices.

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I've just taken the quote above from a story on the BBC website in 2004. It's nothing new.

I haven't yet had to go in term time, living in the Pendle area the holidays up to 2 years ago were different than standard time anyway, particularly the September one, which was great for prices :D

Then some tin pot county councillors in their ivory offices decided to scrap them and make everyone have the same term times.

I would consider it but it would depend on what year the kids were in. Lets face it they do ****** all in the last couple of weeks before the holidays anyway

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Nice to have a choice when you do go on holiday. Teachers don't.

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Thats a choice of vocation though TM. Teachers know that when they take on that career. Some parents don't even get the chance to have holidays during the school holiday time if they are at the bottom of the pecking order when it comes to the holiday rota in the company they work for, therefore they have to take holidays in term time.

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I always went on holiday either the 9th or at the latest 10th July when i was at school. Always went to Northern Ireland for the 12th and 13th and went for 2 weeks. It was the best time for dad to go and also to see all the relatives. There was only one year we didnt go and that was because my dad was ill and that was when i was in the 4th year at high school.

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No they haven't halved it, I thought that too when it was on GMTV this morning, but I was only half listening - when I heard the full report later on, turns out it's now 50 quid per day that your child is out of school

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I didn't say that it wasn't. I merely commented on the fact that teachers do not have a choice as to when they take holidays. I bet there'd be loads of parents complaining if there wasn't a teacher to teach their child because the teacher had 'gone on holiday'.

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No, teachers have to fit their holidays into the 11 weeks or so that they get off every year...............must be a real pain.......:cool:

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I think it would be great all round if we could have more teachers who could have time off on a rota and less school holidays, but don't tell the kids :D

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Really..? remind me to tell the wife .....she must use her ppa time in school very wisely then........and still comes up trumps with ofsted. Oh and i was wrong...its 13 weeks, look at it how you will its still 9 more weeks than the average worker.

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Do you mean the average worker who works 9 to 5 and then finishes work, as opposed to a teacher who works 8 to 5 and then still works evenings and weekends?

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Don`t make me laugh.......

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Sounds like a Primary School teacher. Tell me if I'm wrong.

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Secondary..........:D Although i better not say which one...

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Why would I want to make you laugh? I don't even know you.

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Well! Well! Well! Let me see if I’ve got this straight.

Most people are suggesting that this idea of fining parents for taking children out of school to go on holiday out of school holiday time is wrong because of - waffle, waffle, waffle.

Yet not too long ago in a different thread but also about schools, those same people were going on about children having to be in school during school hours - waffle, waffle, waffle.

So which is it to be? Conforming to school rules or not? Silly me! I forgot! Some posters change their opinions to suit themselves as often as I smoke a fag.

Hypocrisy rules on AccyWeb.

At least someone had the good sense to ask what happens to the fine.

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Teachers working 8 till 5? You can’t be serious!

I live directly across the road from a secondary school and the teachers arrive in their droves shortly before school starts and can’t get away fast enough after the last pupil has left. More like something to nine to shortly after three thirty. Knocking off time is more like the start of the Le Mans as they dash to their cars and scream away.

If teachers knew their subjects thoroughly they wouldn’t need to make lengthy preparations the night before, just a simple which bit of the subject is the next to teach.

In spite of their protestations to the contrary, compared to the factory/office/shop etc worker, teachers have it easy when it comes to holidays.

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Quite very true Mr JB

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I used to start at 8.30 am.... and the teachers where there... i finished at half 4 and so did many of the teachers

In primary school just teaching the children is not good enough.... you have to have worksheets, plan activities, pictures to colour, things to make etc.....these have to be organised mostly by the teacher (as theta's have activities of their own to organise and obviously not in class time

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I only saw this due to the quote, but yet again you are talking out of your arse JB. If you had even the beginnings of any knowledge of working in the education system you'd know that you were talking crap yet again.

If you (or anyone else) believes that any teacher can do their job effectively and to the best of their ability only working from 8:40-ish to to 3:30-ish, then you are so far wide of the mark that it beggars belief.

Your comment about subject knowledge just shows how ignorant you are of the facts. The majority of teachers today are actually over-qualified in terms of subject knowledge. If all teachers had to do was teach what they knew, then the job would be a doddle.

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I took my children out of school as a one off in June.

I had to ask the headteacher for permission and she gave it straight away.

No mention was made of a fine.

I think it has already been said that schools have the power, if they see fit, to fine parents, it does not mean that they issue everyone who takes holidays in term time with a fine.

Perhaps this fine is only for persistent offenders.

Some people take their children out of school not once but several times a year.

I do not agree with doing this.

A one off is fine but not several times a year.

All these attendance targets are set by the government so schools have to be seen to be doing something to reduce absence.

It is the headteacher who has to justify the figures to the inspectors when they come calling.

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As we have been told often enough, jambutty only sticks his oar in when he is has the full facts. This thread was about fining parents for taking kids out of school during term time, but if I had a child at a secondary school in Darwen I would be more concerned about some old bloke sat in a chair watching the school gates at something to nine and 3.30 every day :eek:

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with a watch and clipboard and a copy of the school prospectus ticking off what time each teacher arrives and leaves...............

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My granddaughter's primary school is just round the corner from my house. My daughter is on the PTA committee. Yes, the PTA that teachers attend meetings once a month (a couple of hours in an evening) to plan, amongst other things, fundraising events (evenings, weekends etc.) that they will be involved in.

Juniors finish school at 3.30 but, oh, there's netball and football after school twice a week (teachers needed) and, ooh yes, singing club 'til 4.15 on a Wednesday, run by a teacher. A peripatetic teacher runs Drama Club on Mondays - at 8 a.m. - but there has to be at least one home-based teacher on hand, not to mention the school secretary. Laura's in a play tomorrow evening and again on Wednesday evening. Every class teacher will be there as all the children are taking part.

My brother's late wife was a primary teacher. I used to pull her leg about the long holidays but, honestly, I wouldn't have liked to have to do all the evening and weekend stuff that she did. Nor would I have liked to have to start the school year with up to 30 very small children (she taught the reception class) and send them on to the next class, 11 months later, with basic literacy and numeracy skills and, in some cases, a newly acquired ability to wipe their own bottoms and eat with a knife and fork.

Sorry for continuing the thread-wander. I'll shut up now.

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In addition to all the holidays , what about the excellent pay which increases every year....?

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can i add..... teach them to speak english as well?? i'm gunaa go for a wander in the archives to find a previous post i made about what teachers have to put up with...

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Compared to what? Other graduate careers pay much more. As for the pay increases, well the last 2 years has seen a 2.5% pay increase each year, which was about the rate of inflation. I'd have thought you'd have known all that?

I'm not going to bother with all this anymore. There are some very silly, misinformed and ignorant people around. Just a same that they don't realise it.

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found it.......

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[quote=Tin Monkey;606556 There are some very silly, misinformed and ignorant people around.[/quote]

There certainly are. :(

People who think that teachers are living the life of Reilly clearly need to shadow a teacher for a week.

They would eat their words when they saw the amount of work they do.

The idea that teachers only work 30 odd weeks a year, Mon-Fri 9am-3.30pm is about as far from the truth as you can get.

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