whats this all about. Full fat milk being taken from schools?
 

Dont know if youve seen this, but apparently the govermnent are taking full fat milk from schools to tackle child obesity.

Im sorry...but I have drank full fat all my life, and i never had a problem with obesity, nor did any other child in my age group.

Wanna know what the problem is??? KIDS ARE GETTING LAZIER!
Yes, children are not excersising enough. And i know why they're not.
PS3 - XBOX360...etc...

Children are more reluctant to go out now that they have these amazing systems. Atleast the Wii is promoting fitness, but theres nothing like a good ol fashioned kickabout after school to shed the pounds.

MILK ISNT TO BLAME!!! PARENTS ARE!!!

get running chunk!:p

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i still give ty full fat milk but he has a good diet and plenty of excercise

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Yeah, my kids have full fat. What ticks me off is that now the goverment are trying to get kids drinking that horrible *cringe* green top lol

Yeah, lets discourage our kids from drinking milk shall we? WAY TO go!

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tbh i dont know the difference cos i havent drunk milk for years... ty likes 'blue' milk so thats what i give him.....

but looking at it the other way... it will help the kids who's parents feed them rubbish.....

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Well i dont know, because i dont know any kid that likes green top. my mum used to buy it when i was a kid so i wouldnt drink it, she'd have it for her coffee.

Excersise is still the key to tackling child obesity, and i will always stand by that :)

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excercise and diet......... kinda pointless excercising if all you eat is burger and chips..... your never gunna be healthy.

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Well yes ofcourse, that does help. But you could eat nothing but healthy food and still get fat by not excersisng.

So yesh, we agree... Diet and excersise are they key factors to tackle child obesity.

P.s... i LOVE blue milk :D

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diet, excercise and education are the key factors to tackle childhood obesity.

:p

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yes and education. And also no cbeebies on ALL day lol

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"Full" fat milk is still less than 4% fat and can legally be sold as a low fat product (IIRC 5% is teh limit for a claim of low fat)

Semi is ~2% fat and white water(aka skimmed) is < 0.5%

I recall being told we shouldn't give children anything other than full fat so they get teh full goodness of teh milk.

Whats next, collecting all "mummies milk" and semi skimming it! :D

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Banning full fat milk because of child obesity is plain daft, its not milk thats the problem its th junk food they eat at every oppertunity

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I havent heard this story anywhere else, and as someone else mentioned, you are recommended to only give full fat milk to young children to ensure all the goodness is taken.


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Banning full fat milk will not solve the problem, its important for kids to have some fat, the key is exercise and education regarding diet. As a kid we were brought up in a chippy and had chippy tea every night, we were all stick thin and very healthy, reason being we were never in, always out either at the park or riding our bikes. There weren't the same tv programmes in the 70's only a couple of channels, no computers or games machines (not in our house anyway).

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Full fat milk axed from Lancashire's schools (From Burnley and Pendle Citizen)

theres the story

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one word to explain child obesity

MCDONALDS

ever since this company took hold in the UK junk food took over,dont get me wrong they arnt the only culprits there are many other companies that have set up and lots of sources for junk food like kebab shops etc but mcdonalds sure put junk food and junk food culture on the map infact once they opened up in the UK it was only a matter of time until we caught up with america as an obese nation

i remember when a kebab or piza was somthing only realy eaten after a night out on the beer just before you stumbled into a taxi but now people are ringing these places up and substituting a good well cooked meal with a family bucket from the local kebab shop

when i went to school there was usualy about 1 maybe 2 fat kids in the whole year but these days there are swarms of them

im not saying everyone feeds their kids crap but lets face it if there is a 9 year old for instance that is obese the chances are he knows the entire menu at mcdonalds and kfc and his mother shops mainly at iceland in the souothern fried chicken and piza sections but dont wory a few pints of green top milk and everything will be just fine :rolleyes:

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Have you got your wires crossed? I thought that the government was trying to get everyone onto red or blue top milk not green top.

Wasn’t it a case of Gold Top as extra full cream milk?
Green Top was full cream milk
Silver was standard milk
Blue or Red semi skimmed milk
And Red or Blue fully skimmed milk.

Not buying Red or Blue Top, which to all intents and purposes is white coloured water, I can’t remember which is which. No doubt someone will gleefully put me right with a few choice insults and a bit of name calling.

My milk lady can’t deliver Gold or Green Top anymore but I understand you can still buy them at the farm.

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blue top is full fat....the colours are different if you get it from a milk..person.

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Much obliged for the clarification.

I guess that danny27 didn’t have his wires crossed after all.

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That's what I was always told too. It was tantamount to malnutrition to give them skimmed as some of the nutrients are only in the cream.

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Ah, ok, that's why the sparrows were so fat.

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I'm surprised at the comments so far on this thread.

Am I the only one who thinks that stopping whole milk in schools is a good idea? :confused:

This was reported in the Telegraph last week. We are actually one of the remaining few councils that are still giving whole milk to children.

There is exactly the same amount of calcium in skimmed milk as there is in whole milk.....just less fat. How can this be bad? :confused:

In response to those who say that children need the full fat milk.....this is nonsense. Healthcare advice recommends whole milk until age 5 and then semi skimmed is appropriate.

The obesity levels in schools are shocking.

Agreed, children need to exercise more but not giving children more fat than necessary is no bad thing in my opinion.

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Sorry Lilly,yeah i agree, just think its ridiculous that the government have to do these things because parents feed their children so much rubbish that the excercise they get at school at play time etc doesnt shift it.

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Lilly, there are essential fatty acids and other nutrients in milk than calcium. as I said the difference in fat between whole and semi is 2% so in a full pint of milk you are talking ~10ml difference, there are far greater benefits in stopping them eating too many chips, sweets, junk.

I would also point out that a lot of the "Fat is bad for you" brigade have not seperated the whole natural fats that nature provides from the man made genetically modified trans fats etc that are the real reason of obseity and heart disease.

I for one will happily recommend and encourage Siobhan to drink full fat milk as long as she wants to.

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is Siobhan overweight?
Do you feed hernothing but instant food?

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Nope , shes perfect and is fed proper food and has been from teh minute she could take it. her first taste of anything other than milk was of staek and kidney pudding with mash tata and gravy off my plate in a restaurant.

She eats plenty of fish, veg, pork, beef, chicken etc. We also make sure she understands what animal she is eating. It isn't bacon butty, its piggy butty, moo cow pie, fishy, chicken, rabbit etc

She also gets plenty of exercise and is encouraged by me to be adventureous to the point that you can see Julie cringing! :D

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so the full fat milk is fine for her......
schools are trying to help children and they are doing it in the only ways they can........they cant control what the children have at home but they can control what they have at school............. at least they are trying to do something and not sitting back and saying its not their problem becuse technically it isn't. Schools are there to educate children.

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So my child and probably the majority have to put up with sub standard milk for a minority?

They aren't helping the child by restricting milk to semi skimmed, its a tiny drop in the ocean of what the child eats, far better to educate those children who are "overweight" or even better their parents as to what a healthy diet is. once again common sense has shown to be missing in action so they come up with some hair brained not thought out solution.

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At what point are the schools/LEA going to do let us do our jobs as parents, and do their jobs of teaching our kids?

Yes I appreciate theres a problem with childhood obesity, yes I know kids that are horrendously overweight (as are their parents). When they are fed burgers, chips, fry ups etc at home, swapping milk aint gonna make that much difference.

The LEAs are there to provide a good level of education for our children, not to be a parent. Or are they gonna start demanding they are present from conception onwards to make sure we do that right as well?

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Because some parents either have absolutely no idea what they are doing or couldnt care less.........

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and MY child should suffer because of that?????????????

Nope its not their responsibility as onlyme has said.

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Food Standards Agency - Eat well, be well - Milk and dairy


Semi-skimmed or full fat milk?

Now Nanny bans the hard stuff - Telegraph

this quotes nothing to do with it but i wanted to add it anyway lol

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Depends on whether the school has healthy school status....if they do then their school dinner menus have to be healthy and they are regualrly checked

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aah.... thats something thats being talked about atm. School dinners were invented when some families were too poor to feed their children properly and the school dinner was the only meal they would get that day, THATS why they were stodgy.... obviously thats not needed now and NOONE is too poor to feed their children properly (they just choose not to)

Most schools are changing over to the healthy light meals.........

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deja-vu........... was sure i'd said that before.... and i have :D

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Whatever has happened to 'Free Will'?

If i want to give my kids full fat milk...I WILL
If i want to give my kids Mcdonalds...I WILL
If i want to smoke.....I WILL
If i want to binge drink....I WILL:cheers:
If i want to run around naked...I WILL:flasher8:

ya understand what im getting at?;)

I sick and tired of this poxy goverment telling us what we can and cant eat, and can and cant do!, as long as i dont break the law and be a good citizen, WTF has it got to do with them what i eat and do....i only have two words to say to them.... :thefinger: and its not permitted on here, only in the over 18's!!

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you wanna warn us before you get yer baps out please? esp if your gunna do it in town....................

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As emamum has said, schools are only trying to do their bit to combat the obesity problem.

No-one is telling parents that they can't give their children whole milk at home but they will not be given it at school.

I can't believe that anybody's children on here are so malnourished that having less fat in their morning milk will have a detrimental effect.

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I can safely say that there is no junk, stodge or gunk on offer at our school at dinner time.

In fact, since Jamie Oliver MBE (marvellous man) got involved I thought junk/stodge/gunk had been banished from school menus.

Was it a primary school that you visited, Willow? :confused:

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also remember that all dairy products count towards the dairy intake....

It is recommended that you have 3 portions of dairy a day...... so if they are having full fat yoghurt, a piece of cheese and a glass of whole milk at home,the one they had a school isnt going to affect their diet.....

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The point I am trying to make is that this is yet another thing schools should not have to do. They should concentrate on teaching, enough of us slate them for doing that wrong.

Also, if someone is lazy, and you do things for them, they go lazier. You have a lazy parent, who then knows that the school is going to provide healthy food/drink for their child, they wont bother at all.