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Royboy39 15-07-2008 22:46

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4 horses were killed in Darwen yesterday by vandals who set fire to the stables.
Where the hell is it all going to end?
Horses killed in Darwen arson attack (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Loz 15-07-2008 23:01

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God thats horrible.
Poor horses.
Idiot youth yobs again,probably get a slap on the wrist.
Disgraceful.

Tin Monkey 16-07-2008 09:03

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It's very near to where I live. About 2 miles south of Darwen town centre and in a decent area.

I'm surprised that there hasn't been more response to this story. Perhaps if it had been a Daily Mail article it would have warranted a 7 page thread? :D

jaysay 16-07-2008 09:13

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I just can't bring myself around to think what makes people do things like this, is just incomprehensible. The thing is if they are caught they just get a slap on the wrist as Loz said:(

cashman 16-07-2008 09:20

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terrible state of affairs to come to this,transport will be badly affected by this.:D

andrewb 16-07-2008 09:46

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Its disgusting

Royboy39 16-07-2008 10:27

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 607504)
terrible state of affairs to come to this,transport will be badly affected by this.:D

I think you posted in the wrong thread Cashy?

Gayle 16-07-2008 11:20

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I consider myself a really understanding person and can usually try to see someone else's perspective on things or try and understand why they do things but in this instance I can't for the life of me understand what possesses someone to do this. It's mindless, cruel and if it were up to me the people who did it would be branded with a hot iron across their forehead.

I know I might come across as a bleeding liberal every now and then - but I actually think 'an eye for an eye' and punishment should be severe when it's really due!

panther 16-07-2008 11:29

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I hope these thugs rot in hell!!, probably kids with nothing else better to do!, string the scum up!

emamum 16-07-2008 11:54

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I saw it on the news last night, they were showing pics of the horses and giving a little eulogy for each of them......'this is sandy, she was 3 years old and liked eating mints and having cuddles' (that kinda thing)it was really sad and the poor little kids crying over their beloved pet was awful. The fireman said they had to restrain people thatwere trying to run into the fire to save them.

Bonnyboy 16-07-2008 14:53

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Just shows you the sort of scum we have walking our streets :o

Eric 16-07-2008 15:40

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Terrible ... just mindless cruelty.

Royboy39 16-07-2008 18:51

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Two youths charged with Arson. One 18 one 17.
Well done Darwen Police.

Eric 16-07-2008 18:53

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 607701)
Two youths charged with Arson. One 18 one 17.
Well done Darwen Police.

Under the English system of things does that mean that they will be tried as adults?

Royboy39 16-07-2008 19:47

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 607702)
Under the English system of things does that mean that they will be tried as adults?

18 year old yes 17 year old young offender.....May be wrong...I'm sure this will be corrected if I am.

Benipete 16-07-2008 20:07

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 607717)
18 year old yes 17 year old young offender.....May be wrong...I'm sure this will be corrected if I am.

I'm against all cruelty to animals and that includes La Corrida.

(bull fights):(

Lilly 16-07-2008 20:11

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Just hideous. :(

I don't know what else to say.

MargaretR 16-07-2008 20:17

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A woman, I have now lost touch with, ran a stables in Darwen, known as Earnsdale Farm.
Is that the same site which was torched?

Lilly 16-07-2008 20:22

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 607746)
A woman, I have now lost touch with, ran a stables in Darwen, known as Earnsdale Farm.
Is that the same site which was torched?

The Telegraph gives the lady's details as Mary Howarth aged 60 of Sough Farm stable blocks, off Cranberry Lane, Darwen.

MargaretR 16-07-2008 20:25

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 607751)
The Telegraph gives the lady's details as Mary Howarth aged 60 of Sough Farm stable blocks, off Cranberry Lane, Darwen.

Thanks Lilly - (not the same stable)

Royboy39 16-07-2008 20:34

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 607732)
I'm against all cruelty to animals and that includes La Corrida.

(bull fights):(

Me too.....but i'ts their country and not much we can do about it..Having trouble with my keyboard at the moment...keys sticking...any suggestions?

Bonnyboy 16-07-2008 20:39

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 607764)
Me too.....but i'ts their country and not much we can do about it..Having trouble with my keyboard at the moment...keys sticking...any suggestions?

Flip the keyboard over and give it a few lightish whacks. You'd be surprised at the amount of crud that falls out...worth a dip ;)

NickyMumOf4 16-07-2008 21:45

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My chap is a fireman, he went to this fire and said it was devastating!!!
I hope the people who have been charged do not get off lightly.

cmonstanley 16-07-2008 22:39

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scum:confused:why?????????

Tin Monkey 17-07-2008 06:54

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As I said in an earlier post, this incident happened fairly close to where I live and last night the police posted printed notes through the doors of people living in the vicinity.

The note says that 3 young men have been arrested and will appear at Blackburn Magistrates Court this morning, charged with burglary and arson offences. The accused have no prior convictions and had been out drinking, to celebrate a birthday.

An application will be made to remand the accused in custody prior to their trial.

LYNX1 17-07-2008 07:16

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The scumbags will probably get community service, and then sent on holiday to get over the trauma.

Loz 17-07-2008 15:37

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Originally Posted by LYNX1 (Post 607961)
The scumbags will probably get community service, and then sent on holiday to get over the trauma.

Thats my problem with this.
Yeah they have been caught but the punishment never seems to fit the crime,whatever they get won't be a deterrent and will more likely than not reoffend.
It's disgusting pure and simple.:mad:

Eric 17-07-2008 17:53

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 607764)
Me too.....but i'ts their country and not much we can do about it..Having trouble with my keyboard at the moment...keys sticking...any suggestions?

Don't eat peanut butter with your fingers;)

LancYorkYankee 17-07-2008 18:09

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 607954)
As I said in an earlier post, this incident happened fairly close to where I live and last night the police posted printed notes through the doors of people living in the vicinity.

The note says that 3 young men have been arrested and will appear at Blackburn Magistrates Court this morning, charged with burglary and arson offences. The accused have no prior convictions and had been out drinking, to celebrate a birthday.

An application will be made to remand the accused in custody prior to their trial.

They also will be charged with cruelty to animals, death resulting, won't they. I do hope they come down hard on these kids.

Brian

Eric 17-07-2008 18:32

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Originally Posted by LancYorkYankee (Post 608220)
They also will be charged with cruelty to animals, death resulting, won't they. I do hope they come down hard on these kids.

Brian

One can hope ... but laws against cruelty to animals differ widely ... Canada and Ontario are toughening the penalties for cruelty to animals ... but this is a strange and troubling case ... in animal cruelty cases it is usually the owners who are at fault; this seems a lot like a booze filled act of mindless stupidity. I hope that English law is like Canadian law, where being plastered is not a defence in a court of law.

MargaretR 17-07-2008 18:36

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Arson is judged to be a more serious offence than animal cruelty - perhaps Blazey can confirm

cashman 17-07-2008 18:46

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arson was always classed as very serious in my day, so they will probably get double time community service, :rolleyes: no faith in justice whatsoever.:(

MargaretR 17-07-2008 18:52

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This brings to mind the chap who lived in Church. During divorce proceedings he took a chainsaw to their furniture and then set the house alight.
There was no-one in the house at the time - it is debatable whether he was endangering neighbours ----He did a few years prison for that

Incidentally he later committed suicide in a gruesome way by self inflicted knife wounds which turned the room into a bloodbath

Tin Monkey 17-07-2008 20:35

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Originally Posted by LancYorkYankee (Post 608220)
They also will be charged with cruelty to animals, death resulting, won't they. I do hope they come down hard on these kids.

Brian

It didn't say anything about that on the letter I received, but I hope so.

It said on the radio today that they'd been bailed to appear at a later date. One of the conditions of the bail was that they couldn't return to Lancashire until the trial. Seemed a strange condition. I wonder if they were from outside the county?

cashman 17-07-2008 21:14

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 608299)
It didn't say anything about that on the letter I received, but I hope so.

It said on the radio today that they'd been bailed to appear at a later date. One of the conditions of the bail was that they couldn't return to Lancashire until the trial. Seemed a strange condition. I wonder if they were from outside the county?

seems its started already- "BAIL" thats a great deterant to start off with.:rolleyes:

Eric 17-07-2008 22:27

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 608326)
seems its started already- "BAIL" thats a great deterant to start off with.:rolleyes:

I don't know about that. If they are held in custody till the trial, and if they are found guilty, won't the time they served be taken off their sentence at a rate of 2 days off the sentence for every one day served while awaiting trial? Which would mean that they would serve less time if they were denied bail.:confused:

cashman 17-07-2008 22:30

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 608379)
I don't know about that. If they are held in custody till the trial, and if they are found guilty, won't the time they served be taken off their sentence at a rate of 2 days off the sentence for every one day served while awaiting trial? Which would mean that they would serve less time if they were denied bail.:confused:

don't work like that here mate, unless things have changed which i doubt.

cherokee 17-07-2008 23:07

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OMG How awful!!!!!:eek:
How can someone be so damn cruel and heartless to restrained animals. Those poor horses didnt stand a chance. I just hope the scumbags are caught and smoked to death in a cruel horrible way..

williamb33 23-07-2008 19:07

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 608299)
It didn't say anything about that on the letter I received, but I hope so.

It said on the radio today that they'd been bailed to appear at a later date. One of the conditions of the bail was that they couldn't return to Lancashire until the trial. Seemed a strange condition. I wonder if they were from outside the county?

i would say its more likely that the ones that set the fire live in the area of the stables, and its quite likely the horse owner do too. that would be why they have been sent away on a holiday, they have been named in the local paper, and this article is online, god bless those horses and owners.


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