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entwisi 16-07-2008 08:32

Bin Strike
 
Anyone confirm if our lot are out on strike? if they are, mines due tomorrow, when is it likely to be collected?

Less 16-07-2008 08:34

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 607475)
Anyone confirm if our lot are out on strike? if they are, mines due tomorrow, when is it likely to be collected?

Ooooh! how posh, yours is collected, around here they just seem to spread it around the streets.:D

lancsdave 16-07-2008 08:36

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Here you go :)

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ike-40905.html

katex 16-07-2008 08:38

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Yes Entwisi .. any refuse ( grey bins) collections due Thursday 17th July will be collected Monday, 21st July, any recycling (Green Bins/blue boxes, etc) due to be collected 17th will be collected 31st July.

entwisi 16-07-2008 08:58

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 607476)
Ooooh! how posh, yours is collected, around here they just seem to spread it around the streets.:D

Perhaps its because we pay so much council tax up Bash :D

andrewb 16-07-2008 09:04

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 607480)
Yes Entwisi .. any refuse ( grey bins) collections due Thursday 17th July will be collected Monday, 21st July, any recycling (Green Bins/blue boxes, etc) due to be collected 17th will be collected 31st July.

So how many weeks in total are these being allowed to fester? :mad:

emamum 16-07-2008 09:05

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my collection is today, iv just put my bin out......are they coming?

emamum 16-07-2008 09:06

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 607480)
Yes Entwisi .. any refuse ( grey bins) collections due Thursday 17th July will be collected Monday, 21st July, any recycling (Green Bins/blue boxes, etc) due to be collected 17th will be collected 31st July.

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 607492)
So how many weeks in total are these being allowed to fester? :mad:

the 17th to the 21st is 3 days..... so no weeks, you coulda worked that out for yourself!

the recycling should be clean anyway so wont make much difference.

jaysay 16-07-2008 09:07

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 607493)
my collection is today, iv just put my bin out......are they coming?

No bring it back in ema, I think yours is collected Friday

katex 16-07-2008 09:09

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 607493)
my collection is today, iv just put my bin out......are they coming?

If it is your grey bin then they will not collect today, have to put it out on Friday, 18th July.

If recycling stuff .. no ... will be Wednesday, 30th July.

andrewb 16-07-2008 09:43

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Are any other services affected?

BERNADETTE 16-07-2008 10:47

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 607518)
Are any other services affected?

Some schools if the staff are members of UNISON

tosh 16-07-2008 11:11

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YES TO DAY AND THURSDAY, AND THE SAME NEXT WEEK

panther 16-07-2008 11:30

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So does this mean we get some refund on our council tax?:rolleyes:

lancsdave 16-07-2008 11:32

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 607518)
Are any other services affected?


Don't you just love it when a politician has his finger on the pulse of the nation :D

entwisi 16-07-2008 11:35

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Nah, no refund as they will need to pay them overtime to collect it on Sunday instead!

Neil 16-07-2008 15:37

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 607566)
Nah, no refund as they will need to pay them overtime to collect it on Sunday instead!

How can they pay overtime if they have not done their contractual hours for the week. By definition overtime means over your contractual hours. They should be on single time until they go over their normal hours.

WillowTheWhisp 16-07-2008 16:11

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So does that mean that ours will be emptied on Friday? It was due today.

pam1 16-07-2008 16:23

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Wednesday Will Be Done On Friday And Thursday Will Be Done On Monday.i Have Put A Thread On About The Bin Strike

andrewb 16-07-2008 21:55

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It seems UNISON are celebrating depriving children of an education by closing schools, closing nurseries and services for the disabled..

UNISON the public service union

:mad:

BERNADETTE 16-07-2008 21:58

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 607813)
It seems UNISON are celebrating depriving children of an education by closing schools, closing nurseries and services for the disabled..

UNISON the public service union

:mad:

So you think they should take a cut in their pay when all their basic living expenses are on the up?? I certainly don't!!!

accyman 16-07-2008 22:00

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 607813)
It seems UNISON are celebrating depriving children of an education by closing schools, closing nurseries and services for the disabled..

UNISON the public service union

:mad:


pay them propper then , iv heard about this on the radio today and people were saying everone is struggleing and getting rubbish payrises

good for them for striking to get what they want and 1 day off school is not depriving a child of an education you little drama queen you:rolleyes:

cashman 16-07-2008 22:00

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 607816)
So you think they should take a cut in their pay when all their basic living expenses are on the up?? I certainly don't!!!

Conservative Bernie- means conserve fer oneself. a tory MP once told me that.:rolleyes:

Bonnyboy 16-07-2008 22:05

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 607813)
It seems UNISON are celebrating depriving children of an education by closing schools, closing nurseries and services for the disabled..

UNISON the public service union

:mad:

I don’t think anyone who has had to, who is doing or may be thinking of going on strike regards the matter as a celebration. Stop attempting to twist everything.

Royboy39 16-07-2008 22:06

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 607818)
Conservative Bernie- means conserve fer oneself. a tory MP once told me that.:rolleyes:

I think that's what we all do every day of the week....or try.:)

cashman 16-07-2008 22:08

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 607823)
I think that's what we all do every day of the week....or try.:)

not really,i can look at meself in the mirror.

BERNADETTE 16-07-2008 22:12

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 607818)
Conservative Bernie- means conserve fer oneself. a tory MP once told me that.:rolleyes:

Looking that way:rolleyes: By the way Andrew my sister is on of the people who was on strike, she is a nursery nurse and I can assure you she is one of the most decent people you could ever wish to meet. She certainly is not celebrating about the children missing nursery but she like others expects a decent standard of living and taking a cut in wages when prices are rising as they are is not conducive to that end!!!!

andrewb 16-07-2008 22:12

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 607816)
So you think they should take a cut in their pay when all their basic living expenses are on the up?? I certainly don't!!!

If one thing is clear, people don't want increased council tax, or fewer services.

Browns tax and spend-everything-we-have policy has left us in a very difficult situation.

Royboy39 16-07-2008 22:14

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 607825)
not really,i can look at meself in the mirror.

Cashy....how many times can you count on one, or maybe two hands that someone in Spain tried to get into your back pocket? and when you returned to the UK, do you not look after your interests as a priority above all else?

BERNADETTE 16-07-2008 22:14

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 607828)
If one thing is clear, people don't want increased council tax, or fewer services.

Browns tax and spend-everything-we-have policy has left us in a very difficult situation.

So are you suggesting that they accept a pay cut???

accyman 16-07-2008 22:18

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 607828)
If one thing is clear, people don't want increased council tax, or fewer services.

.

perhaps if our tory council didnt fritter every penny they screw out of us away on trivial things like deckchairs and clowns then there would be alittle bit more money in the pot to pay decent wages

if the council arnt actualy paying for the above im pretty sure theres othe rthings the council waste thousands of our money on anyway

andrewb 16-07-2008 22:26

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Actually nm.

Bonnyboy 16-07-2008 22:27

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Andrew, I know you like to come on here and have your political banter, perhaps a wind up here and there All well and good, get on with it.

Are you really of the mind that these people who are on strike are celebrating the fact ?

accyman 16-07-2008 22:28

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 607837)
Its all over the country mate.


then thats a lot of people getting severely under paid and rightfully striking for better pay

andrewb 16-07-2008 22:29

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 607838)
Andrew, I know you like to come on here and have your political banter, perhaps a wind up here and there All well and good, get on with it.

Are you really of the mind that these people who are on strike are celebrating the fact ?

No, the link is for UNISON who are clearly pleased at the disruption.

accyman 16-07-2008 22:30

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 607840)
No, the link is for UNISON who are clearly pleased at the disruption.


or if untwisted - are pleased at the support they have recieved by the number of people joining the strike

andrewb 16-07-2008 22:31

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 607839)
then thats a lot of people getting severely under paid and rightfully striking for better pay

Doesn't matter if I agree or not, the money aint there! Everyone would like a pay rise to help that little bit more, but the situation Brown has got us in means we're gonna have to suffer till we can elect someone else. :(

accyman 16-07-2008 22:32

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oh and camerons going to pull the extra money out his backside then is he ?

andrewb 16-07-2008 22:35

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 607845)
oh and camerons going to pull the extra money out his backside then is he ?

No but I certainly don't trust this tax, tax, tax government with recovering the economy! Brown rode the wave and has no idea what to do now he's at the beach.

Bonnyboy 16-07-2008 22:35

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 607842)
or if untwisted - are pleased at the support they have recieved by the number of people joining the strike

Correct, it's folk lending their support.

BERNADETTE 16-07-2008 22:38

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 607844)
Doesn't matter if I agree or not, the money aint there! Everyone would like a pay rise to help that little bit more, but the situation Brown has got us in means we're gonna have to suffer till we can elect someone else. :(

They are being threatened with a PAY CUT so where do you get if the money isn't there from?????

accyman 16-07-2008 22:40

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 607846)
No but I certainly don't trust this tax, tax, tax government with recovering the economy! Brown rode the wave and has no idea what to do now he's at the beach.

the last time tories wanted to get some cash in quick they brought in the poll tax

5 people in a house paying £900 a year each to live in this country infact i think it was more i cant be bothered checking but everone remebers the misery that caused


if the tories get in they will most likely raise money by kicking disabled people off benefits , stop working tax credit for mothers and bring in another form of poll tax , however they do it i will bet my bottom dollar it will serioulsy effect the more vulnerable and needy in this country because thats what they do

andrewb 16-07-2008 22:43

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 607848)
They are being threatened with a PAY CUT so where do you get if the money isn't there from?????

It is a 'pay cut' because it is less than inflation. They are not getting any less money, they're being offered a 2.45% rise. Therefore to honour the 6% they want, more money would need to be found.

Royboy39 16-07-2008 22:54

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 607845)
oh and camerons going to pull the extra money out his backside then is he ?

Do you think he could sell the countries gold reserves as Brown did?

Bonnyboy 16-07-2008 22:54

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 607852)
It is a 'pay cut' because it is less than inflation. They are not getting any less money, they're being offered a 2.45% rise. Therefore to honour the 6% they want, more money would need to be found.

Irrespective of whether it is a pay cut or an insubstantial pay increase, these people have a right to take up their grievance with their employer.

Would you advocate the removal of that right ?

BERNADETTE 16-07-2008 22:56

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 607852)
It is a 'pay cut' because it is less than inflation. They are not getting any less money, they're being offered a 2.45% rise. Therefore to honour the 6% they want, more money would need to be found.

And our MP's are great at not expecting a pay rise? Just to keep up with the ever rising cost of living it doesn't seem an unreasonable request!!!

cashman 16-07-2008 23:06

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 607852)
It is a 'pay cut' because it is less than inflation. They are not getting any less money, they're being offered a 2.45% rise. Therefore to honour the 6% they want, more money would need to be found.

that just proves to me you are even dafter than i thought, you have obviously never encountered negotiation in yer cocooned life, if a union body enters pay talks with a figure, that is ALWAYS the top dollar, as managements offer is the bottom dollar, the settlement is normally somewhere in between, which would i assume put unison in line or just slightly over inflation, i know how the deal works, having done it over 20 yrs, you will learn one day when you grow up.:rolleyes:

Neil 16-07-2008 23:59

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 607856)
if a union body enters pay talks with a figure, that is ALWAYS the top dollar, as managements offer is the bottom dollar, the settlement is normally somewhere in between, which would i assume put unison in line or just slightly over inflation, i know how the deal works, having done it over 20 yrs, you will learn one day when you grow up.:rolleyes:

But this is not the real world this is the public service workers. In the real world we have to earn a pay rise by becoming more efficient and more profitable. That way the company can afford to pay is employees more money. In which way will the public service workers do this? The only way they can get their above inflation rise is if we the tax payer have more money taken from us.

Do you want your Council tax to increase, I don't. Not unless I will be getting something extra in services.

I really don't see how the Government can give them above inflation rises after stating that rises should be kept low to help reduce inflation.

I think support would very quickly disappear for the striking workers if it become an ongoing thing. Who wants their bins to stand for weeks or what are we going to do with our children when the schools are shut?

Loz 17-07-2008 02:04

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 607877)
But this is not the real world this is the public service workers. In the real world we have to earn a pay rise by becoming more efficient and more profitable. That way the company can afford to pay is employees more money. In which way will the public service workers do this? The only way they can get their above inflation rise is if we the tax payer have more money taken from us.

Do you want your Council tax to increase, I don't. Not unless I will be getting something extra in services.

I really don't see how the Government can give them above inflation rises after stating that rises should be kept low to help reduce inflation.

I think support would very quickly disappear for the striking workers if it become an ongoing thing. Who wants their bins to stand for weeks or what are we going to do with our children when the schools are shut?

Exactly.
If this carries on for a while and rubbish is piled up in the streets and other services aren't provided people will soon get fed up and turn against them.
I for one don't want my council tax to increase to pay their wages when i don't feel we get value for money in the first place.

Neil 17-07-2008 02:56

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Originally Posted by Loz (Post 607904)
I for one don't want my council tax to increase to pay their wages when i don't feel we get value for money in the first place.

I think it is wrong of them to award pay increments to them all as if they all did the same job.

You say you dont want your Council tax to increase because you feel your local Council does not give you value for money.

That may be true but do you think teaching assistants do a good job in schools? Should they not be awarded they pay increments seperately relevant to how they perform. Also their pay does not come from the local Council so will not affect your Council Tax. Come to think of it I bet a lot of those on strike are not paid directly from our Council tax.

accyman 17-07-2008 03:17

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 607877)
But this is not the real world this is the public service workers. In the real world we have to earn a pay rise by becoming more efficient and more profitable.

anyone who works at a well known local company based in altham and huncoat will be able to tell you that each year the owner gathers everyone around and tells them of the millions of proffit he has made and how well everyone has worked...

then proceed to give the crappest pay rise possible if any at all

i assume plenty more companies do the same because they can and as plenty of companies have probably said to many a person " if your not happy with it then you know where the door is " and theres always a pole around the corner waiting to take your place at less the cost


good for you if the company you work for appreciates its employees but believe me they are far and few between and the majority of employers give as little as possible because no one can make them give you a pay rise no matter how hard you work

if companies paid emplyees correctly and appreciated employees then teh minimum wage woudl never have had to be brought in that actualy forces employers to at least pay a bare minimum to prevent exploitation

dont forget these people who strike dont get paid to sit at home they do actualy loose money ,it knocks me sick how everyone is saying oooh my council tax will go up or whos going to look after my baby while i go to work and making people look bad for wanting a decent days pay that will allow them to keep up with living expenses,if the govenment , council or whoever managed money better there wouldnt need to be increases in council tax

stop pointing fingers at each other and point them in the right direction which is the polotitians and councilors that waste the more than abundant amount of money that they get from us each week via tax , national insurance,council tax and vat

AccyMad 17-07-2008 09:40

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Originally Posted by pam1 (Post 607652)
Wednesday Will Be Done On Friday And Thursday Will Be Done On Monday.i Have Put A Thread On About The Bin Strike

So if they're collecting Wednesday's on Friday, what happens to the recycling that's usually collected on a Friday? Does anyone know if this strike is going to put all collections back a few days.


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