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Any more news on when this is going to get rebuilt? Noticed its still not done!

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maybe a poll would be in order to see when people think it will be rebuilt :D

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I thought he was telling us his plans for the weekend....

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Is that the bandstand?
Didn't realise it was being rebuilt!
I got stuck on it once when i was younger,climbed up it but couldn't get back down!
Had to be rescued,ive pretty much avoided it since then!

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i think the last time it was brought up it wa smentioned that the council had put a claim in on the insurance

wether that money gets used to rebuild the band stand is another matter all together

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Your not sugesting the council would claim on their insuance then use the money on something else are you accyman, heaven forbid:eek::eek::D

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if totaly honest i wouldnt put it past them to grab one of the deckchairs they are bringing to accrington and sod of to spain for a week with the money and leave us watching punch and judy lol

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I think you may be getting an answer to your question soon looking at the name of the latest registered user :D

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Sungiggs?!
Only joking it changed before i replied!
I take it you are on about www.oakhillpark.com or something like that?

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The current situation as I understand it, is that the Council, having agreed a settlement with their insurers, have given the go ahead for the rebuild. However, the insurance settlement will not cover the full cost of rebuilding the bandstand (additional disabled facilities, extra security measures, fire retardant materials etc.), so there is a shortfall. The council have stated that they will fund the shortfall (indeed these funds were committed in their 2007/2008 capital program).
To reduce their outlay, they are now trying to get a reduced price for the build, which may involve going out to tender again. We are in regular dialog with the parks department, and councillors Tony and Paul, who are both trying to move this forward, so hopefully we will see some progress soon.

You will find a couple of other threads on the bandstand on this forum, which may go some way to explaining the battle for the bandstand to be rebuilt, and how this battle has led to the new make-up of the Friends of Oak Hill Park.
If you would like to know more, or get involved, then please come along to one of our meetings (dates on website www.oakhillpark.com?page=events

Also there is a news page you might want to check out, which we will try to keep up to date with news on things like the bandstand.

The Friends of Oak Hill Park Accrington.


Andrew
Friends of Oak Hill Park

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Great stuff, thanks for the information!

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the insurance wont cover a rebuild ?

what sort of pathetic insurance policy did they have in the first place , im no insurance expert but i thought the idea was to insure an item to the value it would cost to rebuild or replace it.

me thinks HBC should get the rest of their polocies looked at by somone who knows what they are doing

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I think some one should look at your brain before you go out at night as well, the band stand was burnt down a while ago and the price of bulding work is rising faster that Darling raises taxes. It is rare that you will recoup all the cost for a rebuild on any insurance policy, well not in the real world that is, but I supose in your world Accyman anything is posible, Dreamer

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The bandstand was very old. Quite evidently the old one was not built using fire resistant materials. It costs more money to rebuild it because there are improvements, as the guy from Friends of Oakhill Park said.

But why let facts get in the way of an attack on the council?

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oh dear did i upset a supporter of the cons who incidently are incharge of this mess :rolleyes:

anyone with half a brain knows the basics of insurance

if you buy a house with a mortgage you have to insure it well over the value of the actual house to cover a rebuild and the expense of getting it rebuilt and if new legislation has come in since the house was built then the rebuild would have the costs of this in the quote which the insurance company should pay as part of the rebuild

if you take home insurance you get a new for old policy so that if your computer for example gets stolen or busted you get a brand new one or teh if its no longer made you get one with the latest gizmos with only the exess to pay for

i will stay in my dreramer world where all my possesions are insured correctly thankyou

like i said im no insurance expert but even in my dreaming world i seem to have a better grasp on it than you :D


if the council got paid out ages ago and prices have risen then its their fault for not doing the work as soon as the money was recieved when rebuild prices matched what they were paid

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Home insurance and buildings insurance are totally different, as is car insurance, if you buy a care brand new today and smash it up on te way home you insurance want cover the cost accyman, oh and by the way I'm sorry I insulted you in my earlier post accyman, its not really my style, but I do get a bit fed up with people keep harping on about HBC, I do try very hard not to get involved in political arguments on here, life to short, I did have a sharp reminder last week.

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appology acepted and i assure you if any other organisation was in charge of it i would have the same questions, it just seemed very odd to me that the insurance didnt cover a rebuild when that is the reason why insurance is taken out - to protect against damage or destruction of an item

dont get me started on car insurance lol , what a set of thieves they are when it comes to paying out on a written off car

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Also you will find most councils insurance does not fully cover costs. They simply can't afford to take out full insurance.

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Andrew my young friend I think you may be spot on there. The fact of the matter is that insurance is a mine field in all aspects of life, we know what happens in ur old personal little worlds and how flustrated we can get, but mulitiply that by what all councils have to put up with and hell, it is frightening.

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All seems in order now according to Planning Applications for the rebuilding to go ahead .. sure Oakhillpark.com will know when work will commence or our two councillors that are on line at the moment.

Good news anyway ... :mosher:

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Taken from the minutes of Friends of Oak Hill Park meeting 18th Feb

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I have been informed that it will be rebuilt in time for the Mela in August this year but if we get a good summer, hopefully earlier than that.

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Setting aside the stand for a moment, does anyone know how many oaks there are in Oakhill Park? Have they ever been counted? If not, why not?

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And your point is ? Marketing, preservation issues ?

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Katex has just volunteered to count 'em....mind you, I hope she knows the difference between oak, ash, willow.......

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Har, har ... well, I would have to take my Usborne Spotter's Guide out with me.

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guess what our council have awarded the contract to a company from outside the borough despite several local companies tendering, typical britcliffe and co give it to a company who contribute nothing to our local economy, perhaps they got the job because they built the new offices behind council hq

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What company got the job in the end?

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i'll not let ty read this or he will be counting them next time we are there :rolleyes:

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1 Bandstand in progress, credit to those who fought for it & those who jumped on board along the way. Hopefully before long it will be as it was!

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Good news b-sound, thanks for the photo

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Update - here's a photo - nearly finished ....

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Looking good Billy Ray:mosher:

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According to the council, it will be finished in time for the Mela in August, but they'll be cutting it fine.

Fingers crossed.

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You'll have to get the whip out Gayle:D

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Don't get yourself excited, you might run out of oxygen :eek::D:D

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Na I have it on tap mate:D

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Another photo :

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That looks really good.

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My thoughts too Margaret, lets hope it stays that way

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Yes, it would be a shame if the graffiti artists and the vandals were to put their mark on it.

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Great stuff, well done Oakhill and all the others involved.... :mosher:

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And well done to Andrew from the Parks Dept at HBC who has had all the hassle with the building of it.

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Hassle Neil ? What do you mean ? Was his job no doubt. :confused:

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True, it was his job but even so it's nice to show appreciation for the work he's done. It was a long drawn out process and he's had a lot of hassle along the way from people not wanting it and from people wanting it - so yes, he deserves a bit of credit for getting it completed.

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Sorry Gayle, can't see it that way. We all have hassle in our jobs no matter what area .. but you have to expect it. Try being in Sales ... daily battles with the rest of your company like warehousing, purchasing, production, etc., and you are trying to work for the customer as well as the company. Unfortunately, we still have a lot to learn in this country as to team work.

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I'm sure that when you got thanks or credit for doing a job, you appreciated it. It doesn't do any harm to thank people for a job well done - particularly when that job was more hassle than the normal job.

If you'd managed to pull in a particularly big client and it had taken twice as long as usual to get them to sign on the dotted line, plus they'd wanted delivery in three days - but you got the deal signed and sealed with the order delivered on time. Wouldn't you like your boss or the company you were dealing with to appreciate the work you'd done.

Yes, everyone gets hassle all the time but it's still nice to show appreciation when things go right.

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Yes, of course it is good to get a pat on the back when you do a good job. Some companies only take note of you if you have made errors unfortunately.

Just that Neil sometimes has an unfortunate way of wording his posts sometimes… came across as though we should give him a special thanks for putting up with 'the hassle' rather than the end result and, in my opinion, was a little on the insulting side to the general public who had worked for the replacement bandstand.



Sure if I said the same thing about some project in Rhyddings Park instigated by the Friends of Rhyddings Park ... I would have had some critical response... :D