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a disabled womans plea to carry on shopping at asda.

she was told she can go around to do her shopping in asdas motorised scooter but was told she was no longer able to take the scooter out of the store, the lady told asda that she could not walk so how was she going to get her shopping to her car.
she does not under stand how they can suddenly change the rules.

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wasn't aware they had these vehicles:confused: seems relativley simple though when these folks want to return to the car, one of the "Happy To Great YOU" brigade,goes wi em, then returns wi the vehicle, job sorted, ah mean hell there aint thousands of these people fer god sakes, don't take a rocket scientist to figure a happy ending. but if thats beyond the IQ of asda management?:rolleyes:

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How did she get from her car to the store?:confused:

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I was thinking that myself.

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Now look what you have done Cashy. You made a perfectly sensible suggestion straight away and killed the thread off.

I suppose all we can do now is read the endless amounts of posts moaning about Asda that will follow.

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sorry neil:D as fer how she got to the store from car, would suggest bit of a struggle, disabled returning to car wi a cartload of shopping - near impossible.:rolleyes:

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Maybe your right Cashy but you can't have a serious debate without looking at the broader picture.Up to now we know very little.could be the system was being abused.:jimbo:

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yeh i thought that, thats why i made the original suggestion, Happy Harry prevents this abuse, also good practice fer him, may need one himself in near future.:D;)

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Probably some stirring it, she's walked from the car to where they keep the skooters, she must have stood up to put the shopping on the conveyor, then put her shopping in the attached trolley, why can't she then put it in one of the smaller wheeled trolleys and push it to her car.

I find it a lot easier to walk pushing a shopping cart.

Retlaw.

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could well be retlaw, still theres some maybe that need em,or why have asda being providing em?:confused:

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HER MUM WENT FOR A SCOOTER FOR HER SHE WAS TOLD ONCE IN SIDE:p

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LOL WITH THAT ONE CASHMAN

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Sorry but if she needed it that badly why doesnt she have one of her own?

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Has anyone found the source for the story yet ?

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The weight of these things is unbelievable, I have lifted my mums in and out of the car and to be honest not everyone would be able to lift one. My dad had to make a ramp to get her bigger one in and out of the car because he struggled lifting it that much. These have always been security tagged and I think it often depends on the staff / greeter on at the time but am sure that if they were to request that they were "escorted" out to the car then they would do this, we have never had any problems in the past when we have asked for this for my mum

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I would also guess that if you asked them for a member of staff to push the stuff out to the car in a normal trolley they would as well.

What happens when they get the shopping home, how does it get out of the car in to the house ?

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Don't they also have a service at Asda whereby the disabled person sits in the car and they provide a personal shopper :D

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The story is in the Observer, apparently her Mum used to bring the scooter out to the car but Asda are saying they are not insured for outside use. They have said they will happily get a member of staff to help the lady into the store and back to her car. Just can't allow scooters to be used outside.

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I can't see anything wrong with that. :confused:

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There isn't anything wrong with it, but as Bernie said it's in the Observer. Must be this weeks half baked story . Whats the betting it's the same reporter as the butty shop story and the other one last week which I can't remember :)

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Do you think we can stretch this one to a 500+ post job?

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Wanna bet - I reckon the locals down the Derby and Joan club Have been playing Grand Theft Auto on their Nintedo's - Sank a few large ones,had a spliff and gone on the rampage:mosher::mosher:

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Me neither by the sounds of it there was no complaint made at Asda but the lady is saying friends have been given different reasons as to why the scooters can't be used outside. Just an excuse for a moan instead of complaining at the store or asking for alternative help:(

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sorry but if YOU needed one, could you afford it? everyone aint rockerfella.:(

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LOL .. yes, it is the same reporter as both stories, the butty shop and the goat story, she must think she is Defender of the People with certain leanings to the informant. Story not up on web-site yet, but this is her:-

Top honour for Observer girl Vanessa - News - Accrington Observer

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Are you referring to the JB shopping method of parking in the disabled bays while the able bodied shopper goes inside :rolleyes:

Or do you mean but online :D

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sorry didnt mean a scooter, mean any kind of mobility device...how do they get around when they are not as asda?

dont disabled people get help with mobility?

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According to the story she doesn't get out on her own but shopping at Asda gives her a bit of independence

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Well that explains a lot. I think she probably did this story as well.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...ww2-bomber.jpg

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Mobility Allowance, now DLA, is only payable if your inabilty (or difficulty) to walk began before age 65

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LOL ... certainly seems to on another planet anyway.

Point is Asda says they do have a service that will meet disabled people at their car and help them get their goods back in, but so far customer service has not been approached by this lady. She does go escorted with her Mum, but her Mum is not too well though and would find it difficult to help her get to the car.

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but i can claim dla for tyler....

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She is 35 Margaret with cerebral palsy.

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No problemo .... I'm on a roll here, trying to get used to my new keyboard ... now if only we can figure out a way to add to Sam Wignall's immortality;)

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then she should be on higher rate plus carers allowance....

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It's not always that simple when it comes to DLA.
My Dad is a double amputee and had to finish work 8 years ago.
He already had motobility for his car and went to claim the higher rate of DLA.
Origionally he was awarded the lowest rate which wasn't enought to live off so he contested the decision and had to go to a tribunal.
He got asked some stupid questions such as do you think your condition will improve!!
He nearly said ive been putting my stumps in growbags to see if they will grow back but was luckily stopped from doing so!
Eventually he was awarded the middle rate.
If you have motobility you can either put the money towards a car with a little bit left over or you can get the money in full.
My dad used the scooters at Asda all the time and never had a problem taking them to the car(thought i should get back on topic a wee bit!!)

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Don't know how many of you remember but in one of the threads there was mention of a blind man who used to man some telephone switchboard on James Street. Anyway he was blind plus he had no hands but for sixteen years he was refused DLA because they said he could get about on his own!! How bad is that? His wife fought the decision and eventually got a positive result but unfortunately it is genuine cases who are refused!!

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Yeah what winds me up is all the people out there who get awarded benefits like this and don't deserve it yet the people who are genuine like my dad and the man bernie was describing struggle like hell.
Really makes me mad:mad:

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Sorry, i only found out about Dla yesterday and thats the childrens one, not the adult one

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We can stretch any thread to 500 Wynonie, just blame the council:D

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I think its call playing the system Loz, the problem is that the people who evaluate your claim for DLA have no medical training, it is only when you appeal against the decision that you see a clinician. Its also the case that a lot of people don't know the ins and outs of applying for these benefits, to me its always best to ask advice, the welfare rights are only too happy to help

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Very true Jaysay, if anybody needs to fill one of these forms out just ring Welfare Rights and they will help you. Wouldn't advise anybody to do it without help:)

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Or lock somebody up for 42 days :D

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I think we should have a poll! ;)

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why are people so eager to portray this disabled person as some kind of fraudster who doesnt really need to use a buggy, remember it could happen to you one day,

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Yes temporary immigrants, that will keep it going, by the way you spelt Pole wrong.;)

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I don't think were trying to do that Den, well I'm certainly not as I'm in the same boat myself, being disabled ain't fun and any help that can be forth coming is most appreciated I can tell you. I'm lucky really, some one does my shopping for me, but I can quite understand someone wanting to retain their independence

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We did eventually get Welfare Rights help, they sant somebody with us to the appeal and were wonderful.

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I had a dispute with the DHSS quite a few years ago and welfare rights helped me tremendously, in fact I asked some one from welfare rights to attend a meeting of the Asthma Group when I was secretary in the early 90s