Pubs Under Threat
 

A BREWERY chain which owns a number of pubs in East Lancashire and employs 1,000 people in the North West is facing closure over an unpaid tax bill.
Cains Brewery, based in Liverpool, runs more than 100 pubs nationwide including The Last Orders in Blackburn, The Bee’s Knees in Accrington, The Last Orders in Nelson, The Brown Cow in Chatburn and The Printers in Oswaldtwistle.
HM Revenue and Customs has filed a petition for the company to be wound up because of money it claims they owe.

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Is the Last Orders pub in Accy still called Last Orders and owned by the brewery mentioned above ?

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hardly surprising, the smoking ban was the final nail in the coffin i reckon fer many. is the Last Orders in Accy one?:confused:

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A Liverpool company owing tax,are you sure it's not a mistake.

I'll ring Ken Dodd in the morning,he'll sort it out:hidewall::hidewall:

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Yes it is.:(

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Just looked at Cains website and Accy Last Orders not listed.

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Cashy....I used to think that a certain Yemini country was the arsehole of the the world. now I'ts got me thinking. Take control off these nerds before I'ts too late.
I mean the Government of course.

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We'll have to wait for the expertise of Less or Mick for an answer I think :D

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I think that might be taking the pith...:rolleyes:

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yer right dave, surprised me that.:confused: used to go in when it was the Royal n then the George,

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Wasn't the pub next to the Palladium called Last Orders at some in the past few years?

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yep it was n before that was the "Printers" fer many years.;)

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They don't go in there now.But I can confirm that there is some connection between Cairns and the Last Orders as they sell their ales.

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Last Orders in Blackburn should be renamed the Last Chance Saloon, seeing as so many of the regulars are banned in all other town centre pubs - no loss if that goes.
Now on a theoretical level if publicans were more responsible about who they serve I could see a good case for pubs being given tax subsidies as they are community facilities, but while they still serve under 18's and people that are already drunk that argument is not viable

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Is that what we call the Star Wars bar:confused::confused:

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Is it not desperation these days polly that determines who is served in pubs? I am sure that if some pubs were allowed to serve in a smokers bar, they might be more selective with the riff raff they allow in!

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Can't remember the last time I had a drink in a pub, the last two pubs I used as a local were the Stop and Rest in Ossy and the Bridge Inn on Church Street when the present Mayoress was landlady so thats awhile ago. I just stick to the club these days and not too much of that lately:mad:

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the last orders in Accy has all the same signs up as the last orders in Ossy and in Blackburn, i used to go in the one in Accy when it was the George, right up until that Murray person took over, it used to be a great night on a Saturday night when Mick Fenton used to do the karaoke

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So its possibly Last Orders for the Last Orders then......?

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Printers boarded up yesterday - 18 August. Has the same happened to Bees Knees and T' George?

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george or last orders, was open this morning when i drove past mate.

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If a business owes tax and repeated requests for payment have been ignored then the HM Revenue and Customs were quite within their rights to file for the company to be wound up.


When a business of any size goes into liquidation the first call on any assets is by the HM Revenue and Customs.

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Mmm what is up with that Murray person ?:confused:

Caines are possibly going into receivership - it isnt especially likely that all of their pub chains will be shut down neither will it be aimed at certain ones
pubs that are making money would normally be sold on as a going concern - It is in the banks best interest to sell on a valid business rather than an empty shell.

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Just got me thinking!, which is the nearest pub to me now?, i live nr the ossy mills!
Bay horse???................oh god, no thanks

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ya not nearer "Lock Street" club Panther?

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oh bloodyhell yeh, i forgot about that one, :p

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can anybody remember an instance of a publican being prosecuted for serving someone who was obviously drunk? or is the legislation just another load of garbage that we pay our MPs to pontificate about.
den.

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well i got 1 foot in the grave den n never heard of one.:D

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Tell me of one pub that has not got one foot in the grave due to the smoking ban?

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Just in administration at the moment Jambutty, and hoping to find a buyer for the brewery, however, hoped to continue trading .. not looking good though to see that The Printers is shut (for the time being ?).

Very rare that Administrators do not find a buyer.

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I used to love a night out round the pubs in Ossy. It's abysmal these days. I don't go half as much as I used to because it's dead. :(

We never had any trouble before the smoking ban. There were plenty of pubs and it was a good night. You go in one of the few pubs left on some nights now and apart from a couple of old men with dribble hanging out of their mouths there's no-one in. :(

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ossy was a great night, back in 80s early 90s, i know cos i worked it.

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My dad always said how busy Accrington used to be. How people would come from all over, Burnley etc just to be here on a Sunday night. I can't imagine it!

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Hey Lilly...I am an old man 69...I can hold my head up in any in any situation.....I have been there...done it....and scored..l.before you were born...I dont dribble.
Why do you think old men at 69 are wriiten off?

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LOL .. you've met Walter (?) our Accyweb mascot then. Sorry, Lilly you would have had to have gone to a few past meets at the Stag to understand this one, only error is, dribble not hanging from his mouth :D

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No offence Royboy....anyway, these fellas are about 15 years older than you. :)

Glad to hear you scored before I was born.

I haven't written you off and I'm sure you don't dribble hahaha :D

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15 Years older than me....There but for the grace of god go I.
Maybe in my afterlife I could become a Burnley supporter,
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE JOKING
I would sooner platt sawdust

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Thats a club panther, but the good old Tinker is open again:D

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Thank god for that Roy, when I was reading your post I was having kittens, then I saw the blue bit.

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They can close all the pubs for all I care. I don’t need alcohol to live.

But unlike the holier than thou anti-smoking brigade who in their selfish arrogance pushed for and got smoking banned in enclosed public spaces, whilst driving around and polluting the atmosphere in their cars, I believe in live and let live as for as booze is concerned.

I won’t shed any tears for the closure of a pub, but I won’t rejoice either.

It would be poetic justice if all pubs, clubs etc were closed, although like in the smokers’ case many innocent people would get caught up in the issue.

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However much I would like to completely blame the smoking ban, you cant. Who needs blaming is Supermarkets & the breweries. I have no sympathy for any brewery that struggles or goes under at the moment. Its the tenants in the pub that deserve the sympathy.

The breweries will do nothing to help there tennants, rents are shockingly high as are beer prices, and the fact that the pubs are tied to the breweries to buy their beer off them.

Oh whilst i'm blaming people let me mention Sky TV also!!

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agree Lolly, but the smoking ban was the final nail in the coffin to me.;)

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Oh yes I totally agree, I said i'd love to completely blame it, but I cant!:rolleyes: