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danny27 01-08-2008 00:40

To kill or not to kill- HUNTLEY
 
Oh, before i begin my daily rant about injustice in the world i wish to let you all know that whilst i was on holiday in blackpool, i picked up a cheap BB gun. This, was to rid my cat problem. And let me tell ya, the fat ginger moggy cant out run plastic bb's! meeeeow!! lol. Anyway, it doesnt kill em, just scares the crap out of them, so everyone's a winner.

Anyway...i was reading a tabloid paper the other day, an it appears Ian Huntley has been victimised in prison. Wait...thats just the good part. He's been attacked with something called "Prison Napalm". ( yep, still good ). Prison Napalm, if your unsure what that is, is basically a mixture of boiling water and sugar. It has a lasting effect cos it sticks to the skin lol Yeash, stiiilll good. Hes been viciously attacked and one one occasion was beaten so bad that somebody left a boot imprint on his face. ( i think give that man a medal whosever foot that belonged to. But...now the bad part.

Officers have been ordered to reffer to Ian Huntley as " MR HUNTLEy, and also play scrabble with him to keep his spirits up!! (WTF!!!)
And...he is allowed to play video games, watch TV, and listen to CD's. ( WTFF!!!) He's currenly under something called "Protocol For The Management of Ian Huntley, which...is an attempt to improve his life. Nah nah nah, Feck that!!! Improve his life, i dont think so! He's ruined Holly and Jessica's friends and families lifes, and also ofcourse ended two young girls life cruely and prematurely! HE shouldnt be allowed these privalges, he shouldnt. He should be put in a very dark dingy cell and left in their for the rest of his life to think about what he's done. Giving him games and music is something you give a child if they've done their homework or something, not to this sick prick WHO i might add is also allowed internet access and HAS a facebook site apparently.

But, i just had an apiphany, i he seen the light. MAYBE i should do something naughty, get inside prison, find this waste of human life who is sharing the same oxygen as we are...AND KILL HIM!

Hey, its not exactly gonna be a bad thing is it, i mean come on...I get a slightly small prison sentance for murdering the prick (a year or so) and i will be a national, nae, an INTERNATIONAL hero!!!

Anyway, what do you all think?

BERNADETTE 01-08-2008 01:21

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Personally think he should have been hanged but what do we know?? A life for a life but what about a life for the two lives he took and lets add on all the lifes he destroyed at the same time??

shakermaker 01-08-2008 02:55

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Prison, for a being that carried out the actions that this man did, should be the most hellish experience any person would ever come across. However, if the reports are true, it seems he's receiving the utmost care to ensure that he does not become suicidal. Words cannot express how much disrespect this shows to the lives of Holly and Jessica.
As much as I believe that hanging or any other form of capital punishment would have been an easy way out for Huntley and therefore wrong, I do see it that this man should undergo the largest amount of torture within an inch of his life every single day for the rest of his life. Not pampered to make sure he's in high spirits for squash tomorrow. These reports are sickening.

Tin Monkey 01-08-2008 07:07

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Hmmm... as soon as I saw your source was a tabloid newspaper, all credibility disappeared.

Less 01-08-2008 09:22

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Originally Posted by danny27 (Post 613510)
Oh, before i begin my daily rant about injustice in the world i wish to let you all know that whilst i was on holiday in blackpool, i picked up a cheap BB gun. This, was to rid my cat problem. And let me tell ya, the fat ginger moggy cant out run plastic bb's! meeeeow!! lol. Anyway, it doesnt kill em, just scares the crap out of them, so everyone's a winner.



Anyway, what do you all think?

I thought your problem was the cats crapping in your garden, so scaring the crap out of them is surely counter-productive to your real aim, a crap free garden!

So please explain how this makes you a winner?

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I do however agree that it is annoying when someone else's cat uses your space as a latrine.

bonny_tuesday 01-08-2008 09:30

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Danny there are other more humane ways to rid your garden of unwanted cats. Go to the garden centre or even supermarket and there are products you can buy to stop them coming into your garden. BB guns may not KILL cats but they could be badly bruising them, blinding them, giving them internal injuiries etc and in my eyes and i'm sure the eyes of many others this is classed as cruelty to animals. Try the humane way.
Bonny x

cashman 01-08-2008 09:36

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in theory danny yer idea is appealing, in practice though if you did summat slightly naughty you would NOT be sent to a prison like that, so you will have to commit a very serious crime @ HOPE you get allocated to the same Maximum Security prison. even then you aint certain, cos you would have to be placed on the same wing/section,to even get near this piece of crap, sorry to burst yer bubble, but ya have no chance.:)

jaysay 01-08-2008 09:49

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Well most right thinking people think that Huntley shouldn't be in prison, he should have been strung up,but that was never going to happen. Even though the story is tabloid orientated TM, I don't for a minute think that it isn't true, because thats the way British justice work, the dogooders have seen to that, cuz they have rights you know:( To my way of thinking the BANGKOK HILTON for life would be just right for scum like Huntley, at least the barsteward would get some pain, but even then its not enough

cashman 01-08-2008 10:18

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 613567)
Well most right thinking people think that Huntley shouldn't be in prison, he should have been strung up,but that was never going to happen. Even though the story is tabloid orientated TM, I don't for a minute think that it isn't true, because thats the way British justice work, the dogooders have seen to that, cuz they have rights you know:( To my way of thinking the BANGKOK HILTON for life would be just right for scum like Huntley, at least the barsteward would get some pain, but even then its not enough

i'm with jaysay, accept nowt but crap is printed in tabloids, but also know how cushy scum have things in prison.

MargaretR 01-08-2008 10:46

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When I move here my timid cat was being bullied by the cat next door but one.
The cheeky ****** used to chase him home and would bang and scratch at my front door to try to get at him.
I cured it by opening the front door just enough to reach out with a compressed air rape alarm. Problem solved :D

Wynonie Harris 01-08-2008 11:01

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They should adopt the methods of the Peruvian penal system where child murderers/molesters are bunged in with the general prison population and they have to take their chances. Still, no matter how we complain about it, nothing will change because politicians don't listen to ordinary people.

den the menace 01-08-2008 12:22

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huntly was guilty and should hang, but what about stephan kyscho who was banged up for allegedly killing lesley molseed? all due to lazy police work. its a very emotive subject and one that cant be ignored, kyscho would have hanged, and i wouldnt want to be the home secretary having to sign his execution warrant. on the other hand we do need a deterrent to stop these loonys.
btw i dont see any difference between killing a 80yr old pensioner and a 5year old kid. its still murder

pipinfort 01-08-2008 13:49

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Leave them cats alone...............

MikeSz 01-08-2008 13:57

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you sit shooting cats with a bb gun, advocate stringing people up, take delight in them getting beaten in prison etc and you want me to take you seriously? I very much doubt it. Ive always lived by knowing right form wrong and I think justice should be done. But I dont think you can ever use the same mentality with the criminals as they themselves in their own twisted minds use. Its called lowering yourself to that standard and makes one sub-human. but hey - enjoy shooting your cats mate.

Tin Monkey 01-08-2008 14:27

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Originally Posted by MikeSz (Post 613649)
you sit shooting cats with a bb gun, advocate stringing people up, take delight in them getting beaten in prison etc and you want me to take you seriously?

You forgot the bit about reading a tabloid paper! :D

Gayle 01-08-2008 14:36

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In cases such as these I lose all my liberal tendancies and want the worst possible punishment for them. I could never support the death penalty just in case someone was wrongly convicted - for example the guy who they arrested for killing Jill Dando has now been acquited at a retrial. If the death penalty existed then he could have been dead by now.

However, if someone is guilty of killing someone and if they are in prison with suicidal tendancies, then i don't think we should be too worried if they choose to end their lives. I think that the best way would be allow them the means to commit suicide. I don't think they should be 'entertained' with scrabble, the internet etc to stop them feeling suicidal - let them get it over with.

Bonnyboy 01-08-2008 15:08

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 613655)
In cases such as these I lose all my liberal tendancies and want the worst possible punishment for them. I could never support the death penalty just in case someone was wrongly convicted - for example the guy who they arrested for killing Jill Dando has now been acquited at a retrial. If the death penalty existed then he could have been dead by now.

However, if someone is guilty of killing someone and if they are in prison with suicidal tendancies, then i don't think we should be too worried if they choose to end their lives. I think that the best way would be allow them the means to commit suicide. I don't think they should be 'entertained' with scrabble, the internet etc to stop them feeling suicidal - let them get it over with.

I’m a bit unsure of the logic you are using there Gayle.

If someone is wrongly convicted , lets take your example of Barry George - George not guilty of Dando murder, then the ordeal of being wrongly convicted could well lead to the person developing suicidal tendencies. If there was a means to allow prisoners to commit suicide then George could well be dead under those circumstances.

Gayle 01-08-2008 15:15

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 613660)
I’m a bit unsure of the logic you are using there Gayle.

If someone is wrongly convicted , lets take your example of Barry George - George not guilty of Dando murder, then the ordeal of being wrongly convicted could well lead to the person developing suicidal tendencies. If there was a means to allow prisoners to commit suicide then George could well be dead under those circumstances.


Well, you're absolutely right, which is why I could never advocate the death penalty. And that's also why it's a hugely complex area. I guess, all I'm saying really is that if it were up to me, as far as Huntley, and Ian Brady and Myra Hindley, was concerned (Huntley has admitted guilt hasn't he) I wouldn't be trying to jolly up his life and i wouldn't be keeping such a close eye on him if he were likely to be committing suicide.

Bonnyboy 01-08-2008 15:24

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 613662)
I wouldn't be trying to jolly up his life and i wouldn't be keeping such a close eye on him if he were likely to be committing suicide.

Agree totally :(

It gets a bit much hearing about cushy prisons and prisoners being breast fed.

jaysay 01-08-2008 16:23

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 613665)
Agree totally :(

It gets a bit much hearing about cushy prisons and prisoners being breast fed.

Ya BB its a great country were we keep the likes of Huntley in a nice cushy warm cell all mod cons, ensuit facilities, game boys TV (no doubt Sky TV too) 3 square meals a day and some of our pensioner will have to make the desicion this winter wether to heat or eat. Don't know what you think but I think the lunatics are now in charge of the asylum:(

Bonnyboy 01-08-2008 18:29

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 613675)
Ya BB its a great country were we keep the likes of Huntley in a nice cushy warm cell all mod cons, ensuit facilities, game boys TV (no doubt Sky TV too) 3 square meals a day and some of our pensioner will have to make the desicion this winter wether to heat or eat. Don't know what you think but I think the lunatics are now in charge of the asylum:(


That just about sums up the situation jay :(

Tin Monkey 01-08-2008 18:39

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Where's BB? :confused:

garinda 01-08-2008 19:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danny27 (Post 613510)

But, i just had an apiphany, i he seen the light. MAYBE i should do something naughty, get inside prison, find this waste of human life who is sharing the same oxygen as we are...AND KILL HIM!

Hey, its not exactly gonna be a bad thing is it, i mean come on...I get a slightly small prison sentance for murdering the prick (a year or so) and i will be a national, nae, an INTERNATIONAL hero!!!

Anyway, what do you all think?

I think you should go to a chemist, and get some ointment to put on your apiphany.

Tin Monkey 01-08-2008 19:31

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Actually I've changed my mind now, based on the views in this thread. An eye for an eye is what I now say! If someone is found guilty of murder, then let them suffer the consequences and who cares if they die in prison!!

I mean, take that bloke who was found guilty of killing Jill Dando.... oh, hang on a minute... ummmm..... I'll think of a better example in a minute......

archiveuk 01-08-2008 19:41

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Yeah Yeah Kill Kill Kill him ... and boil his Head in oil and cut off his willy , and while we're at it get that bloke who shot the lovely Gill Dando...


.... oh, hang on he might just be innocent ... Oh sorry man , here have your willy back.


As a society we are judged by how we treat our sick and our failed human wretches ... what if Huntley was judged to be mentally ill at the time of the offence,is this how to treat those who's bad trip through life has left them scarred and damaged?

As "Big J" said ... Let him without sin cast the first stone .:alright:

Wynonie Harris 01-08-2008 20:45

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Originally Posted by archiveuk (Post 613757)
As a society we are judged by how we treat our sick and our failed human wretches ... what if Huntley was judged to be mentally ill at the time of the offence,is this how to treat those who's bad trip through life has left them scarred and damaged?

...and this is the person who said, of the guy who threatened to throw himself off the viaduct: "What right do these muppets have to hold up thousands of people for the best part of three hours whilst they make a cry for attention? I call it total selfishness." Still...maybe he was being ironic. :rolleyes:

archiveuk 01-08-2008 21:38

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 613775)
...and this is the person who said, of the guy who threatened to throw himself off the viaduct: "What right do these muppets have to hold up thousands of people for the best part of three hours whilst they make a cry for attention? I call it total selfishness." Still...maybe he was being ironic. :rolleyes:



Yes, an opinion I still hold, i'm not suggesting we get soft with anyone i'm suggesting we are firm but fair. In my book firm but fair does't include letting some barbaric inmate (who, by the way is unlikley to be an angel himself) away with "napalming" fellow inmates ....

Nori Brick 04-08-2008 10:53

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Ian Huntley is selfish & heartless he was not ill when he comited murder he's just playin the sistem just like shipem did before he took his own life, let him take his own life if thats what he wants to do, give him the rope or the knife an walk away while he dose it.

bonny_tuesday 04-08-2008 11:02

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I think that somebody who has confessed to and committed such terrible deeds should be offered the option of suicide.
If they want it, they should have it. Then they cant hold the prison to ransom for extra privelages.
So if they try to take their own lives, give them the means to do it, a pill, I bet those that threaten suicide often wont be so keen once it is a proper option and they know that the only thing they will get from it is death and not exta special care in prison.
Bonny x

cashman 04-08-2008 11:08

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Originally Posted by archiveuk (Post 613757)

As "Big J" said ... Let him without sin cast the first stone .:alright:

i never cast the first stone....................but usually cast the Biggest.:D

danny27 04-08-2008 12:05

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anyone the kills a person as far as im concerened. Mentally ill or not, kill them all. They're a danger to our society and should be destroyed as dangerous dogs such as rotweillers are.

andrewb 04-08-2008 12:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danny27 (Post 613510)
MAYBE i should do something naughty, get inside prison, find this waste of human life who is sharing the same oxygen as we are...AND KILL HIM!

Quote:

Originally Posted by danny27 (Post 613510)
anyone the kills a person as far as im concerened. Mentally ill or not, kill them all.

Hmm.. ;)

MargaretR 04-08-2008 12:10

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Makes me glad that lynch mobs are illegal :rolleyes:

danny27 04-08-2008 12:12

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*hmmm??" What do you mean hmmmm?

Fact is, my actions would be rationable. Its not as if im taking an innocent life is it? Im just ridding the world of this monster, just as our St George did eons ago when he slayed the dragon.
I want to slay this demon and bring justice to the world.

Bonnyboy 04-08-2008 12:14

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Originally Posted by danny27 (Post 614631)
*hmmm??" What do you mean hmmmm?

Fact is, my actions would be rationable. Its not as if im taking an innocent life is it? Im just ridding the world of this monster, just as our St George did eons ago when he slayed the dragon.
I want to slay this demon and bring justice to the world.

Dya forget to take yer pills this mornin :D

garinda 04-08-2008 12:27

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Originally Posted by danny27 (Post 614631)
*hmmm??" What do you mean hmmmm?

Fact is, my actions would be rationable. Its not as if im taking an innocent life is it? Im just ridding the world of this monster, just as our St George did eons ago when he slayed the dragon.
I want to slay this demon and bring justice to the world.


Would you have also killed Stefan Kiszko in prison, after he was tried and convicted of murdering eleven year old Lesley Molseed?

The man eighteen years later found innocent of the crime.

Loz 04-08-2008 14:57

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It doesn't matter whether you are taking an innocent life or not the fact is you can't justify killing somebody because of their actions.
Yes he is scum and if he wants to do away with himself let him but you can't lower yourself to his level to get justice.
At the end of the day you would be a murderer just like him.

danny27 04-08-2008 14:59

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ok, ok...i wouldnt kill him. Just give him a bloody good kickin, is that better?

Loz 04-08-2008 15:06

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Well you are determined to get yourself locked up aren't you!!
I can see where you are coming from but still think lowering yourself to a criminals level isn't the answer.
Though i have to admit if i was left in a room alone with him no questions asked it would be tempting!!

danny27 04-08-2008 15:13

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lol. Your right, i aint gonna lower myself to his level. Just let him rot in prison. I dont however feel that he's been treated how he deserves. I mean...scrabble? Sod that, give a kick in the head every hour, on the hour. That sounds more like it.

Loz 04-08-2008 15:16

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Agree being treated in prison isn't the justice we want for his victims.
Prison shouldn't be like a holiday camp he should be suffering every day of his life for what he did.
If life is so cushty for him in prison then like i said if he wants to top himself let him get on with it.

danny27 04-08-2008 15:19

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Couldnt agree with you more.

emamum 04-08-2008 15:57

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Danny love, i think you need to get some professional help!

and i dont mean a hitman, i mean mental help!

jaysay 04-08-2008 16:22

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 614692)
Danny love, i think you need to get some professional help!

and i dont mean a hitman, i mean mental help!

I think you'll just have to cut his chocolate off ema:D

Benipete 04-08-2008 16:33

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 614692)
Danny love, i think you need to get some professional help!

and i dont mean a hitman, i mean mental help!

He's certainly got some strange ideas.
Needs to move out of Church.:confused::confused:

garinda 04-08-2008 18:28

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Originally Posted by danny27 (Post 614671)
ok, ok...i wouldnt kill him. Just give him a bloody good kickin, is that better?

Would you have given Stefan Kiszko a bloody good kickin' too?

jaysay 05-08-2008 09:22

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 614772)
Would you have given Stefan Kiszko a bloody good kickin' too?

I think Danny would give anybody a kickin justfor the hell of it Rindi:eek:

danny27 05-08-2008 09:39

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nah im not like that. Im just saying what most of everybody is thinking. And no, cutting my chocolate is a BAD idea lol

( yeah, i need to leave church too lol )

garinda 05-08-2008 14:59

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I'm all for campaiging to make jails a harsher environment, and not a free holiday for those who end up in them.

'The Prison Service has spent £221,726 on PlayStation, Xbox and Nintendo systems and software to keep jailed criminals entertained. Ministers have previously admitted spending only £10,000 on the machines.'

Pampered prisoners supplied with £221,726 of PlayStations | Mail Online

However, British justice isn't perfect, but it's preferable to the vigilante actions of those who see themselves above the law. An example of which were those holier than thou citizens who attacked a Pediatrician, after the News of the World published the names of known sex offenders, because it looks a little like the word paedophile.

danny27 05-08-2008 15:31

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thats ridiculous,,,its funny i was talking to colleagues today about the shoddiness of illiteracy in the UK. That just goes to show it.

BRITAIN!!! GO PICK UP A BOOK!!!

jaysay 05-08-2008 16:14

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 615022)
I'm all for campaiging to make jails a harsher environment, and not a free holiday for those who end up in them.

'The Prison Service has spent £221,726 on PlayStation, Xbox and Nintendo systems and software to keep jailed criminals entertained. Ministers have previously admitted spending only £10,000 on the machines.'

Pampered prisoners supplied with £221,726 of PlayStations | Mail Online

However, British justice isn't perfect, but it's preferable to the vigilante actions of those who see themselves above the law. An example of which were those holier than thou citizens who attacked a Pediatrician, after the News of the World published the names of known sex offenders, because it looks a little like the word paedophile.

There are kids leaving school who can't read or write so what chance have we got, there's a series running on channel 4 at the moment, I think its on tonight, about adult illiteracy, these are all people who hae slipped through the net and it looks like they're still slipping


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